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HD 6870 launches Oct 21, slower than 5870?

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As you guys say, it really is quite funny, all these leaks. Good anti-leak practice however. If you can't totally stop the leaks, then just add 10-20 times as many fake and conflicting ones. None, or at least few of us here will ever be able to sort it out.

😀

AMD have proven themselves to be masters of misinformation and misdirection over the past two generations. No question there.

AMD already pretty much rules the GPU landscape as it stands, and the Radeon 6xxx cards look to continue that lead. 🙂
 
wake me up when anand himself has one in his hands and is posting a review. All this BS leaked crap is exactly that, BS.
 
If I understood the new naming scheme correctly, the 6870 is meant to replace the 5770, in the overall line-up, right? Were people expecting the upcoming mid-lower tier card to beat the fastest single chip card from the previous generation? That would be quite impressive if it turned out to be so. Regarding the pricing, I like RussianSensation's suggestion however I get the feeling that this will turn out to be too good to be true.

I'm thinking the only logical reasons I can come up with to call the 6770(sic) a 6870 is if the 5770 isn't being replaced right away, and/or so they can charge more for it. I think many are going to be disappointed by the pricing structure of the 6000 series when released. I'll be surprised if we get 5870 performance for ~$200.00
 
Absolutely, people here and on other tech forums need to really dial down the pressure cooker here. When most of these chip companies get ready to release new products, much of the leaks are going to be fake, and probably planted by the chip makers themselves. AMD is actually known to do this on a regular basis pending major releases of their products.

At this point, any supposed leaks, whether naming scheme, benchmarks, architectural details, specifications, or whatever other information are potentially planted to dilute the real information, and all of it should be treated as such until we hear from a reliable source publicly.


Anyone here agree with this?

A lot cheaper to issue misinformation than try to hunt leaks. If this is the new AMD, then together with their recent improvements in CPU, GPU and APU tech, points to a MUCH smarter, faster competitor.
 
Well.. much faster is a good thing in my book. "Much smarter" depends. If it doesnt screw the customers over, like some other companies, im all for it.
 
Anyone here agree with this?

A lot cheaper to issue misinformation than try to hunt leaks. If this is the new AMD, then together with their recent improvements in CPU, GPU and APU tech, points to a MUCH smarter, faster competitor.

I 100% agree.

With the current climate in video cards. NV has been taking a hammer they are not used to from AMD, and I'm sure AMD wants as little hard data about their new cards circulating because of this, whether it be that the 6 series is a beast or it's not that great.

Either fact would give NV some aid in a strategy. For example, if they knew for certain the 6 series was not that big an improvement they could run with a dual-gpu gf104 type card, alternately if they knew that 6 series was an incredible performer, they could scrap the whole idea and wait it out till their next series at the end of next year.

Even if someone who works in the production of these cards spills the beans, do they have access to drivers for the cards, if so, are the drivers crap or neutered ? Either way, everyone will know in just a few more weeks exactly what AMD's new series is going to give us.
 
I am confused. I read that document, and didn't get any of the things you are getting from it. I don't see anywhere where it says that the 5800 series will be based on the Barts GPU.
 
Anyone here agree with this?

A lot cheaper to issue misinformation than try to hunt leaks. If this is the new AMD, then together with their recent improvements in CPU, GPU and APU tech, points to a MUCH smarter, faster competitor.

With two weeks to launch, a mis-information campaign, if there was one, has served it's purpose. The latest slideshow leaks are probably accurate. And if so, a-w-e-s-o-m-e.

And Nvidia bleeds.
 
If one agrees with me on a smarter AMD, we can speculate on their strategy.

Apart from the wealthy early adopters, a lot of us (mid and budget gamers) are still using 9600Gt, 9800GT and 4850/4870 cards. Having a very superior product around the $200 price point will almost certainly encourage a lot of upgrades.

Certainly the HD57xx pair (the only DX11 choice for most of the last year) did not offer enough improvement. These new cards certainly appear to do it.

If you're an investing man, AMD might be going somewhere, in spite of a general PC slowdown.
 
With two weeks to launch, a mis-information campaign, if there was one, has served it's purpose. The latest slideshow leaks are probably accurate. And if so, a-w-e-s-o-m-e.

And Nvidia bleeds.


Unfortunately, you can't recall the leaks without admitting the truth. These leaks have taken on a life of their own. It's like an infection. You cannot un-infect.
 
I 100% agree.

With the current climate in video cards. NV has been taking a hammer they are not used to from AMD, and I'm sure AMD wants as little hard data about their new cards circulating because of this, whether it be that the 6 series is a beast or it's not that great.

Either fact would give NV some aid in a strategy. For example, if they knew for certain the 6 series was not that big an improvement they could run with a dual-gpu gf104 type card, alternately if they knew that 6 series was an incredible performer, they could scrap the whole idea and wait it out till their next series at the end of next year.

Even if someone who works in the production of these cards spills the beans, do they have access to drivers for the cards, if so, are the drivers crap or neutered ? Either way, everyone will know in just a few more weeks exactly what AMD's new series is going to give us.

This close to release it makes little practical difference if Nvidia finds out the specs of the new cards and in any case they are now thoroughly familiar with the TSMC 40nm process and know better than any the parameters of what performance increases are possible and what AMD is likely to bring to the table.
 
I don't believe the renaming scheme to actually be true but stranger things have happened. I've been taking a lot of these spec leaks & performance gains with large many grains of salt.

I'm looking forward to the release just to get the real info.
 
If one agrees with me on a smarter AMD, we can speculate on their strategy.

Apart from the wealthy early adopters, a lot of us (mid and budget gamers) are still using 9600Gt, 9800GT and 4850/4870 cards. Having a very superior product around the $200 price point will almost certainly encourage a lot of upgrades.

Certainly the HD57xx pair (the only DX11 choice for most of the last year) did not offer enough improvement. These new cards certainly appear to do it.

If you're an investing man, AMD might be going somewhere, in spite of a general PC slowdown.


I think best case scenario is the 6770 Barts XT comes out with the performance of a 5870 but including improved tesselation abilities. The one persistent rumor I've heard about 6 series is a re-design of tesselation and a big boost there.

If they pull that off in their mid-range card and they price it $200-$250 it will be like the 8800GT was when it was released. An amazing performer in the performance landscape it was released into at an incredible price giving gamers who couldn't spend $600 on an 8800GTX the opportunity to spend $250 for near the same performance.

If the 6770 delivers 5870 performance with improved DX11 at a $250 price point, they won't be able to keep them in stock. The GTX 460 1GB will have to remain viable by being sold as factory overclocked cards with 850 on the core at $150. This would be their ideal situation and one that would make things tough for NV.

If the 6770 is about what a 5850 or is priced at $300, it's not going to hit the market hard.

If AMD has the performance and prices it right, the card will be incredible.

I want to see the early reviews of it, I'm hoping we get some data and hopefully a full review or at least correct specs of the single-gpu 6 series flagship. Again if they release a monster that is the kind of buzz that drives sales of their whole lineup. The 5870 and then 5970 did a lot to make people want to buy 5XXX series cards.
 
The "AMD Confidential: NDA Required" blurb on the slide to me just screams, "I'm fake! Leak me! I dare you!" 😛
 
Fudzilla reported that story, and they are updating it:
Update: Minutes after posting the story we were informed by some people in the know that the launch will indeed go ahead as planned. We can expect some fresh and tasty Radeons in two weeks, but mass availability should probably be expected sometime in November. As for Nvidia's price cuts, well it's not like they have much choice
 
Awww frack it. I'm picking up whatever is out by Black Friday, GTX 460 or Barts XT.

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