Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real

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Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Kaieye
In that case, are Obama's elder relatives in Kenya a bunch of liars when they claimed that Barack was born in Kenya?

Something doesn't smell kosher...

Ah, apparently a statement by the state of HI that Mr Obama was born there is not enough to convince the Birthers.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: Kaieye
In that case, are Obama's elder relatives in Kenya a bunch of liars when they claimed that Barack was born in Kenya?

Something doesn't smell kosher...

K, in certain cultures a three month old child is considered a year old, they count conception as the dath of birth.
 

GuitarDaddy

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I saw a post on WSJ forums today where a poster was claiming Obama's published birth certificate was a fake because his race was listed as black, and everybody knows the proper term in 1961 was neegro:laugh:
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Originally posted by: MursilisPeople obsessing over birthers need to get a life. It's a crackpot movement - let it die and stop giving it attention.

I think that a great many of us want the Birthers to recognize that we regard them as being mental retards and for them to come to the self-realization that they are, in actuality, morons.

LOL.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Birthers need to get a life!

People obsessing over birthers need to get a life. It's a crackpot movement - let it die and stop giving it attention.

Now why would the left and MSM do that if they can make the association these crackpots are the Republican mainstream?

These crackpots ARE the Republican mainstream today. Wake up, the libertarians and the Ayn Rand crowd are the fringe in the GOP, and recognized only when convenient. When was the last time the Pubs ran a fiscally conservative, socially liberal candidate on any major ticket? OTOH, they did run a fiscally liberal, socially conservative ticket last election. In case you weren't paying attention.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Kaieye
In that case, are Obama's elder relatives in Kenya a bunch of liars when they claimed that Barack was born in Kenya?

Something doesn't smell kosher...

They never claimed that, there was a misunderstanding in an interview. The American interviewer asked for clarification that he was born in Kenya and was immediately corrected by Obama's 'elder relative' that she had been misunderstood and that he was born in Hawaii.
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Birthers need to get a life!

People obsessing over birthers need to get a life. It's a crackpot movement - let it die and stop giving it attention.

Now why would the left and MSM do that if they can make the association these crackpots are the Republican mainstream?

Talking point #1 blame the media

It will continue to be a story because of those 7 GOP congresspeople pushing the birther bill. Or are those 7 part of the crackpots???

 

Carmen813

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McCain was born in Panama. Are birther's demanding to see his birth certificate?

This entire issue is just ridiculous.
 

0marTheZealot

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Do Birthers honestly think that anyone born in a foreign country, even with a faked birth certificate, would be allowed to run for the President of the United States? The vetting system that occurs for that must be incredibly intense, far more than some random kid sitting in a basement, breathing through his mouth, analyzing a photo of a birth certificate. This is a non-issue.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
I saw a post on WSJ forums today where a poster was claiming Obama's published birth certificate was a fake because his race was listed as black, and everybody knows the proper term in 1961 was neegro:laugh:

My favorite part of this insanity is when people start pulling apart the printed birth certificate and trying to show there are elements that clearly make it a forgery. They seem to forget that the certificate put forth by Obama IS a Hawaii birth certificate, issued a few years ago to Obama on his request. It can't be a fake. Their beef might be with the information it conveys, but I love seeing guys look at the high-res pictures and start talking out of their ass.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: JS80
Certificate of Live Birth =/= Birth Certificate
Close, it only seems you have an extra = and / in there.

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com...ma-Born-in-Hawaii.aspx

Barack Obama: Born in Hawai`i
by Andrew Walden

Obama?s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawai`i gets from the State Department of Health.

Re: ?Will Obama?s birth certificate be produced to silence the growing outrage, or will the media and the courts conspire to quash what should be front-line news every day until the question is resolved??

To repeat, Hawaii issues only the Certification of Live Birth these days. It is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department.

How do I know that? From this e-mail from the Department of Health in Hawaii:

"It is possible that we have records with more information but we issue only certified computer-generated certificates with certain necessary information to confirm a birth. We are the only agency that issues certified birth records for Hawaii
Aloha,
(Name removed)"

Re: ?Now, most of us can produce our birth certificate for a driver?s license test, a job interview, or any number of causes, in a matter of minutes. Shouldn?t a candidate for the president be held to at least as high a standard as a teenager applying for permission to drive on American streets and highways??

As noted, the certification of live birth is the official document used to get a driver?s license, to show at a job interview, or to apply for a passport. Unless your family has retained the original birth certificate, you cannot get it from the Department of Health of Hawaii these days. But that?s okay, the certification of live birth is a legal document, and it proves birth in Hawaii.
 

trenchfoot

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Originally posted by: dualsmp
Obama Used 39 Social Security Numbers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8

Hey thanks for that...I needed a good laugh before beddie-bye. I did a quick scan of the net on some of these birther sites. Jaw dropping , scary and hilarious all at once. Some people even claiming that this incident is the tripwire for THE revolution that they've been waiting for. LOL

 

jonks

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Anyone see that russian lawyer leading the birther charge on Colbert the other night? terrific stuff.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Kaieye
In that case, are Obama's elder relatives in Kenya a bunch of liars when they claimed that Barack was born in Kenya?

Something doesn't smell kosher...

If you're prone to believing what's said by random Africans, I know some Nigerians who would like to contact you. I hear you'll be rewarded quite handsomely for your assistance.
 

WHAMPOM

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Better question, was he conceived in Africa? Can our President be conceived in Africa and legally hold the office? "big snark here!":D:p
 

rudder

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I don't think the media wants to ignore the birthers...otherwise it would be very easy to make them go away. its a small fringe...move on nothing to see here.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Better question, was he conceived in Africa? Can our President be conceived in Africa and legally hold the office? "big snark here!":D:p

Whats the big snark?? Being concieved is a lot different than being born...
con·ceived , con·ceiv·ing , con·ceives
VERB:
tr.

To become pregnant with (offspring).

your better question is a total non- issue unless your a birther..lol
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: rudder
I don't think the media wants to ignore the birthers...otherwise it would be very easy to make them go away. its a small fringe...move on nothing to see here.

That "small fringe" includes double digit republicans in congress.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: rudder
I don't think the media wants to ignore the birthers...otherwise it would be very easy to make them go away. its a small fringe...move on nothing to see here.

That "small fringe" includes double digit republicans in congress.


As long as members of the GOP in congress push the birther bill it will remain a news story.