Having a problem with Roundup herbicide

slag

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I bought some concentrated roundup a couple weeks ago to kill off my lawn so I could till it, rake it out and reseed. The directions say to mix 6 oz per gallon and to apply when the temp is 60 degrees or above.

The first day I mixed 12 oz per 2 gallons in a pump sprayer and applied when the temp was 62 degrees and cloudy. I saturated the lawn and waited 3 days and saw very little evidence that it was working. 5 days after the initial application, I reapplied, the same strength, on a 68 degree day and started to see a little browning after a day. Fast forward to this Sunday when I reapplied again, the rest of what I had, mixed about 16 oz to 2 gallons, on a 71 degree day with lots of sunshine following rain we had on Friday and Saturday. I still see a little more browning, but not the death of my lawn I would expect to see. Today is the 10th day following my initial application and I've gone through a $45 bottle of Roundup and my lawn still is bright green in a lot of places.

What the hell??

I'm going to contact Monsanto to let them know how displeased I am with their product. I applied it according to the directions on the package and consulted my neighbor who used to be landscaper, and we are both scratching our heads on this one. Anyone else had a similar experience? The directions say that after 10 days, the grass/weeds should be dead but yeah, they arent.

I understand how roundup works by being absorbed by the leaves. I had everything glistening wet with the herbicide and the conditions are right for my grass to be growing, so it should be sucking the herbicide down inside the plant.
 
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iamwiz82

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I've never heard of that issue and I use the concentrate fairly often. Roundup expires, did you check your bottle?
 

Matthiasa

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Your grass could have incorporated the roundup resistance they sometimes build into stuff. :p
 

highland145

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Probably the low temp. But the new/improved roundup is not as good as the old stuff. Used to be 1oz/gal....bastards. Had great success with the local farm supply concentrate and it was way cheaper. 1 gallon of concentrate ~$45.00....3 oz/gallon mixture.
 

highland145

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Just pull the weeds.

Pesticides run off into lakes and rivers and kills fish.
Roundup will work to kill a plant only when it has been sprayed on the foliage and is allowed to absorb into the plant. This means that Roundup is not effective as a pre-emergent herbicide, because it works only on actively growing plants. Therefore, if you spray an area with Roundup, you are killing only the plants the product falls on.
Because Roundup does not move through the soil, non-target plants will not absorb the product through their root systems and will remain unharmed. This means that Roundup does not present a threat to future plantings.
 

Texashiker

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The first day I mixed 12 oz per 2 gallons in a pump sprayer and applied when the temp was 62 degrees and cloudy.

That is where you messed up, the directions said 6 ounces per gallon, not 12 ounces for 2 gallons.
 

LTC8K6

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They probably give weaker mixture directions so they can say it makes more. Mix it stronger.
 

slag

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Well, the net result is I wasted $45.00 on roundup that didn't work. I'm going to get my money back, just need to figure out who to call to give me credit to buy more and mix it double strength.
 

Northern Lawn

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He probably put fertilizer on his lawn, and when it browned a bit, that might have been due to burning. (putting too much on).
 

Capt Caveman

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Just pull the weeds.

Pesticides run off into lakes and rivers and kills fish.

Stop posting in every thread, especially on issues which you have zero clue on. If you actually read the OP, he's trying to kill his lawn and not just kill weeds.

OP - what are temps at night? If the grass has already gone dormant, the grass blades may not absorb the herbicide.
 

SagaLore

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Well, the net result is I wasted $45.00 on roundup that didn't work. I'm going to get my money back, just need to figure out who to call to give me credit to buy more and mix it double strength.


Keep in mind that the way these herbicides typically work is that the plant absorbs the complex salt, it brings it down into the roots, and then the salt interferes with the roots ability to function and that kills the plant. Your grass could very well be dead and it still is retaining green in its blades.

It is also possible that you distributed the spray too thinly, so in many places you simply harmed the grass without giving it enough to kill it. You only need to spray once and make sure you use enough everywhere. By waiting then spraying again, waiting and spraying again, you were just re-spraying a mostly dead lawn and wasting it.