Have You Gotten Your Covid Vaccine? Thread.

[weblooker2021]

Why? Do you have some sort of needle phobia?

No needle phobia. I want to let my immune system do its job, that is why we have it. I am willing to take the risk that it wil not work and i will get seriously sick or even die.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I am a little nervous. I got two doses of Pfizer and I am 7 months out from my last stabbing. I think I want the Moderna booster, but I will take whatever they have on hand. There is a lot of demand for the booster in my area. I think I will have to wait until next year to get the booster.

 

[fskimospy]

No needle phobia. I want to let my immune system do its job, that is why we have it. I am willing to take the risk that it wil not work and i will get seriously sick or even die.

That makes no sense, you obviously took the original shot because you knew your immune system would not do its job, lol. There's nothing inherently superior about the human immune system, that's why people got sick and died all the time in the old days.

So basically just magical thinking. It's so weird how some people in the modern era, even with access to modern medicine and science decide to engage in this sort of irrational thinking. Mental illness is a hell of a thing.

 

[fskimospy]

A: 'You should get vaccinated against this deadly virus'

B: 'I want to let my immune system do its job, so no thanks'

A: 'But people's immune systems aren't doing their job, that's why it's deadly'

B: 'Okay I'll just die in that case, it's better than getting a safe and free injection'

 

[Heartbreaker]

No needle phobia. I want to let my immune system do its job, that is why we have it. I am willing to take the risk that it wil not work and i will get seriously sick or even die.

A Vaccine is training for your immune system. It's just an extra workout for your immune system.

This stance is like Not lifting weights to gain muscle, because you want your body to do it's job and gain muscle by itself.

If you have already had the vaccine twice, then you should be over any fears you have with and just give your immune system the extra work, so it can do it's job better.

 

[Brainonska511]

I am a little nervous. I got two doses of Pfizer and I am 7 months out from my last stabbing. I think I want the Moderna booster, but I will take whatever they have on hand. There is a lot of demand for the booster in my area. I think I will have to wait until next year to get the booster.

Based on available evidence, book whatever booster you can asap. Just like in the initial vaccine rollout: take any vaccine that is offered/available.

 

[Brainonska511]

A: 'You should get vaccinated against this deadly virus'

B: 'I want to let my immune system do its job, so no thanks'

A: 'But people's immune systems aren't doing their job, that's why it's deadly'

B: 'Okay I'll just die in that case, it's better than getting a safe and free injection'

Anyone that rejects vaccination with a claim that they want their immune system to do its job is a moron. The immune system doesn't really recognize a difference between vaccine-induced immunity and gaining immunity after being sick. And from what we've seen, there could be worse immunity from "the natural" route vs just getting vaccinated. Some people would apparently rather take the stupid route and risk disability and death.

xkcd: mRNA Vaccine

 

[VashHT]

That makes no sense, you obviously took the original shot because you knew your immune system would not do its job, lol. There's nothing inherently superior about the human immune system, that's why people got sick and died all the time in the old days.

So basically just magical thinking. It's so weird how some people in the modern era, even with access to modern medicine and science decide to engage in this sort of irrational thinking. Mental illness is a hell of a thing.

There's a lot of bullshit out there centered around the human immune system being magical nowadays. I was tricked into going to some chiropractic presentation years back, the whole presentation was about how the immune system can fight off anything and if you're sick it's because you spine isn't aligned correctly and that somehow inhibits your immune system. So if you get your back aligned your body will be able to magically fight off anything. You see the same thing with crazy diets and people thinking if you're healthy that your immune system can magically fight off anything despite mountains of evidence that that isn't true.

 

[fskimospy]

There's a lot of bullshit out there centered around the human immune system being magical nowadays. I was tricked into going to some chiropractic presentation years back, the whole presentation was about how the immune system can fight off anything and if you're sick it's because you spine isn't aligned correctly and that somehow inhibits your immune system. So if you get your back aligned your body will be able to magically fight off anything. You see the same thing with crazy diets and people thinking if you're healthy that your immune system can magically fight off anything despite mountains of evidence that that isn't true.

If our immune system is so great why did so many people die of diseases like smallpox before we came out with vaccines? (this is a rhetorical question)

It's amazing how people are either too stubborn or too stupid to understand something this basic. The world is a hard place to live and lots of things can maim or kill us, which is why we've used our brains to create technology to give us an advantage. In an unarmed fight of human vs. grizzly bear it turns out pretty bad for the human. Put that human in a tank and suddenly things look a lot better. Somehow they cannot (choose not) to understand how the exact same principle holds true here.

 

[UNCjigga]

Yes it did get me to get vaccinated. Omicron is much milder compare to Delta. I am not willing to keep getting vaccinated for the rest of my life.

Except, one of the reasons why Omicron is seen as “milder” is because most of the infection data comes from populations that have built natural immunity (South Africa—close to 80% of pop has had Covid at least once) or some level of protection thru vaccination (early European/US cases.)

 

[fskimospy]

Except, one of the reasons why Omicron is seen as “milder” is because most of the infection data comes from populations that have built natural immunity (South Africa—close to 80% of pop has had Covid at least once) or some level of protection thru vaccination (early European/US cases.)

Yes, it's entirely possible it COULD be inherently milder - initial tests I read about showed it to be like 70x better at infecting bronchial tissue than delta but 1/10th as good at infecting lung tissue. If that turns out to be the case it very well could be less deadly. That's only one part of the puzzle though and it could turn out to be every bit as bad or worse. The idea that you shouldn't get a shot based on that chance it could be milder is stupidity.

 

[Commodus]

Yes, it's entirely possible it COULD be inherently milder - initial tests I read about showed it to be like 70x better at infecting bronchial tissue than delta but 1/10th as good at infecting lung tissue. If that turns out to be the case it very well could be less deadly. That's only one part of the puzzle though and it could turn out to be every bit as bad or worse. The idea that you shouldn't get a shot based on that chance it could be milder is stupidity.

I say we should see Omicron as the bridge to a safe endemic disease, not the final step. Unless it's clear the virus is far milder even for the unvaccinated, we'll have to keep getting shots and wearing masks.

 

[hal2kilo]

If our immune system is so great why did so many people die of diseases like smallpox before we came out with vaccines? (this is a rhetorical question)

It's amazing how people are either too stubborn or too stupid to understand something this basic. The world is a hard place to live and lots of things can maim or kill us, which is why we've used our brains to create technology to give us an advantage. In an unarmed fight of human vs. grizzly bear it turns out pretty bad for the human. Put that human in a tank and suddenly things look a lot better. Somehow they cannot (choose not) to understand how the exact same principle holds true here.

Maybe we should have just sat out in the cold and died instead of going into the cave. The cave is dark and scary you know.

 

[weblooker2021]

I say we should see Omicron as the bridge to a safe endemic disease, not the final step. Unless it's clear the virus is far milder even for the unvaccinated, we'll have to keep getting shots and wearing masks.

Anyone that want to continue doing that is welcome, i am done getting boosters and wherever i can i do not wear a mask.

 

[MtnMan]

Yes it did get me to get vaccinated. Omicron is much milder compare to Delta. I am not willing to keep getting vaccinated for the rest of my life.

That decision may result in "the rest of your life", being a lot shorter. I support your attempt to improve the gene pool.

 

[weblooker2021]

That decision may result in "the rest of your life", being a lot shorter than if you weren't a stupid fucking asshole. I support your attempt to improve the gene pool.

Sure there is always the possibility which i am willing to take that risk.

 

[MtnMan]

Anyone that rejects vaccination with a claim that they want their immune system to do its job is a moron. The immune system doesn't really recognize a difference between vaccine-induced immunity and gaining immunity after being sick. And from what we've seen, there could be worse immunity from "the natural" route vs just getting vaccinated. Some people would apparently rather take the stupid route and risk disability and death.

An analogy these mouth breathers might understand better.

Anti-vax idiot: I don't need a jack in my car, its weight slows it down​

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Common sense: but what if you get a flat?​

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Anti-vax idiot: My body doesn't need any outside help, I'll lift the car with one arm, and change the tire with the other.​

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Common sense:​

 

[Commodus]

Anyone that want to continue doing that is welcome, i am done getting boosters and wherever i can i do not wear a mask.

Too bad the virus isn't done with you.

That's the thing folks like you don't seem to understand: the virus doesn't care that you're tired of vaccines and masks. It doesn't care how badly you want to go to a concert, how long it's been since you visited a family member, or how fervently you believe something. It just cares about spreading, and it doesn't care what happens to you in the process.

 

[fskimospy]

Too bad the virus isn't done with you.

That's the thing folks like you don't seem to understand: the virus doesn't care that you're tired of vaccines and masks. It doesn't care how badly you want to go to a concert, how long it's been since you visited a family member, or how fervently you believe something. It just cares about spreading, and it doesn't care what happens to you in the process.

And remember his entire reasoning is that he wants to trust his immune system as if it’s a kid with self esteem problems from some shitty 80/90s movie who is just waiting for their time to shine.

 

[weblooker2021]

Too bad the virus isn't done with you.

That's the thing folks like you don't seem to understand: the virus doesn't care that you're tired of vaccines and masks. It doesn't care how badly you want to go to a concert, how long it's been since you visited a family member, or how fervently you believe something. It just cares about spreading, and it doesn't care what happens to you in the process.

I don't stay at home, i don't avoid going to concert, getting together with family members. We had lovely get together on Thanksgiving and we will have another on Christmas. I am living my life normally, i am not avoiding anything.

 

[hal2kilo]

Next, services consequences...

Navy starts kicking out sailors for refusing Covid vaccine as Republicans rage over mandate - POLITICO

 

[MtnMan]

Too bad the virus isn't done with you.

That's the thing folks like you don't seem to understand: the virus doesn't care that you're tired of vaccines and masks. It doesn't care how badly you want to go to a concert, how long it's been since you visited a family member, or how fervently you believe something. It just cares about spreading, and it doesn't care what happens to you in the process.

The main difference between him and the virus, is that the virus will take actions to survive.

 

[Commodus]

I don't stay at home, i don't avoid going to concert, getting together with family members. We had lovely get together on Thanksgiving and we will have another on Christmas. I am living my life normally, i am not avoiding anything.

This doesn't change that what I said is true, you know that, right? Your determination to resume pre-pandemic life doesn't mean the virus is going to politely step aside. And getting lucky isn't the same as being right.

You don't have to retreat to 2020-era safety measures, but you can't pretend the virus has gone away or that you aren't at risk of serious consequences. And you can't claim any vaccinations you've had are just as effective for Omicron as they are for earlier variants, because they aren't.

 

[weblooker2021]

This doesn't change that what I said is true, you know that, right? Your determination to resume pre-pandemic life doesn't mean the virus is going to politely step aside. And getting lucky isn't the same as being right.

You don't have to retreat to 2020-era safety measures, but you can't pretend the virus has gone away or that you aren't at risk of serious consequences. And you can't claim any vaccinations you've had are just as effective for Omicron as they are for earlier variants, because they aren't.

Virus absolutely exist, there is no way around that and i am not going to even try to argue that it somehow is gone. Yes i also agree with you that i likely have no protection against Omicron or very little of it at best. With all of that being said, when i am getting together with someone or I am going to somewhere I do not take the virus in to the account like i do with say traffic. Yes there is possibility that i already been exposed to it or i will be exposed to it soon and that I might be symptomatic or asymptomatic. The reality is if it happens, it happens. I am not going to cry about it, i am not going to second guess what action i didn't take to avoid it. Instead i will deal with it. I am not willing to do what government and scientist want me to do which is to continue getting a booster every time they recommend it. I should add that there is always possibility that another mutation will happen which will become very serious and at that time i probably will get a booster or new version of the vaccination but until that time happens, i am done with getting a booster.

 

[Commodus]

Virus absolutely exist, there is no way around that and i am not going to even try to argue that it somehow is gone. Yes i also agree with you that i likely have no protection against Omicron or very little of it at best. With all of that being said, when i am getting together with someone or I am going to somewhere I do not take the virus in to the account like i do with say traffic. Yes there is possibility that i already been exposed to it or i will be exposed to it soon and that I might be symptomatic or asymptomatic. The reality is if it happens, it happens. I am not going to cry about it, i am not going to second guess what action i didn't take to avoid it. Instead i will deal with it. I am not willing to do what government and scientist want me to do which is to continue getting a booster every time they recommend it. I should add that there is always possibility that another mutation will happen which will become very serious and at that time i probably will get a booster or new version of the vaccination but until that time happens, i am done with getting a booster.

But it's considerably less likely to happen if you get a booster; you don't have to throw up your hands and sing "que sera sera." You have control over how safe you are, and it's baffling that you wouldn't just spend 15 minutes at a clinic to reduce the chances of what could be weeks, months or years of suffering for you or the people you know.