DangerAardvark
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Believing in being "born again" or "having a personal relationship with Jesus Leroy Christ", who, btw, was a Jew, is NOT something most Chrisitians worldwide believe in at all, it is the primitive, bottom feeding, dog and pony show, dumbed down version of Christianity.
Well I actually run the retail store. Over the last 2 years I've pulled it back from the brink of closing and I'm very interested in its continued success. Stuff like this doesn't exactly make me happy, but I'll deal with it somehow. If only other people would help me by minding their own business...
Bignate603
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Wow, somebody on anandtech that's actually being mature about people offering to share their beliefs. Has hell froze over?
I think the correct answer to direct religious questions is "I've found what makes me happy". Like you know the people don't mean any harm, they are just trying to share something that makes them happy. Say thanks, that you appreciate their sharing, but that you're happy where you are. Decent people will take the hint and drop it. Non-decent people will push the topic...
middlehead
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child of wonder
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Next time say:
"No, I haven't been born again. But I can take your wife in back and maybe I can be conceived again."
"No, I haven't been born again. But I can take your wife in back and maybe I can be conceived again."
MovingTarget
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I can say from experience that this works well. I am actually Catholic. There are a few well-meaning and knowledgeable missionaries who will try and talk to you, and those I don't mind. You can have an interesting and enjoyable debate with those who are open minded enough. Those that aren't...well... after a minute or so of real theological discussion they start to squirm and eventually leave you alone. Sometimes it is hard to tell with the local reformation junkies...err...protestants.
I know it's crazy.
Not sure what you mean, the basis of Christianity is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the light. No one comes to the Father but through Me." John 14:6
Not trying to convert anyone here just don't want misinformation being spread.
are you seriously asking me if i've had my head in a woman's vagina more than once in my life? well the answer is yes.
I know Jesus is a Jew... that's common knowledge. Being "born again" is simply having believing on and asking Jesus to save you from your sins.
I guess you're right, not all people who have the title "Christian" believe that. However, it is the most basic and only requirement to be saved and get to Heaven, according to the Bible.
Being a Christian simply means being Christ-like... and everyone has their own definition of what being Christ-like is, and that is an opinion typically formed from religion. I take my definition of Christianity from the Bible, if other people want to take their definition from man made rules and regulations (religion) then so be it.
If most Christians don't believe that (according to you), then what is it they believe?
i don't really understand how Jesus was a Jew. if he was god, why did he have a religion? was he just pretending?
sorry, i have absolutely no understanding of christianity... but i am taking a class in it next year at college. woot.
Bignate603
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and I hate it when I hear yet another atheist scream about evolution, or prayer in schools, or abortion, etc....
they only do it in response to the ridiculousness of the people who actually think we should be teaching ignorance in schools.
I find that anyone who goes door to door or just walks up to me in public trying to sell their religious beliefs, is not decent.
I've never been asked that. heh.
my generic response to religious questions is that I was born a Catholic, but my parents were Christmas/Easter Christians and while I believe in god, I don't presume to know which, if any, religion is the one true religion.
my generic response to religious questions is that I was born a Catholic, but my parents were Christmas/Easter Christians and while I believe in god, I don't presume to know which, if any, religion is the one true religion.
Bignate603
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I have no problem with somebody asking me if I want to listen. I have a problem when they won't take no for an answer. Seriously, if you don't want to listen just say no. How much trouble is that?
spontaneous explosions that defy all laws of thermodynamics? sounds like ignorance to me, hyprocrite.
Jews follow Old Testament law. To have a walk with God you had to follow His laws, Jesus still wanted a walk with His Father, so he followed the Old Testament laws. During His life though, He did away with laws that were no longer needed (which is the reason the Jews hated him and crucified Him), and after His crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension, most of those laws were no longer needed.
Christian's that have an understanding of the Bible will not hate the Jews like you would think they would or should. The Jews, or Israelites, are God's chosen people and because of that they should inherit our respect. They were only fulfilling the prophecy that was required for Gentiles (non-Jews) to get to Heaven.
DangerAardvark
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Spoon fed lines from apologists? What next? You gonna ask about transitional fossils? Be less stupid.
Separation of church and state protects both church and state. Even most Christians don't support the ID movement. You make them look bad.
I rarely encounter a religion salesman that takes no for an answer immediately.
The ideal encounter with one of these god peddlers should go as follows;
"Hi, I'm John Smith, have you heard about the glory of Jesus Christ our Lord!?!?"
"Sorry John I'm really not interested in your religion or whatever you're selling"
"Ok, then god bless" and then the person walks away without trying to hand me some fucking pamphlet.
How it usually goes is;
<all of the above starting with my polite and direct rejection of his sales pitch"
"But have you been saved? <insert any stereotypical missionary bullshit here>"
"John I'm really not interested."
"Well if you read this, listen to me for a minute or mabey attend one of our meetings you might change your mind. Jesus is the path."
"John <at this point I'm walking away from this person while they follow me>, really I'm not interested"
"Ok brother, but if you change your mind take this <hands me a pamphlet>."
"No thanks, I don't want one"
At this point I'm showing my signs of being annoyed and walking away from this person with my back turned to them. Typically they keep talking as I walk away.
I'm sick of it at this point. I don't want someone randomly coming up to me and trying to sell me shit I'm not even in the market for. It's just like thoes assholes who run around with bags of shit like boxes of steak knives, or thoes douche bags at mall kiosks who try to sell me on automobile windshield replacements.
I know when I need something, I don't need some jackass approaching me and trying to sell me shit.
This is why I have a "no soliciting" sign on my door. Do I have to wear one around my neck too?
HannibalX
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To be completely honest I have never in my life had anyone walk up to me at school, in a restaurant, at a movie, at a concert, at the pub, at the grocery store, on the golf course, in the bathroom, at the office, on the moon or anywhere else I didn't name and attempt to evangelize to me. I have spent my entire life except for the last one year in major metro areas with millions of people (Chicago and Orlando).
My personal experience makes me think these sort of events aren't all that common. With the amount of religious congregations in the the areas I lived (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc) you would think that in all those years someone would have "gotten" to me. Wrong. It's never happened to me.
Obviously it's happening to some amount of people because once in a blue moon I hear someone complain about having 30 seconds of their day stolen by some religious servant like I am supposed to believe they would have been making millions of dollars on Wall Street, curing cancer or aids or making peace in the Middle East of they just had those 30 seconds back.
My personal experience makes me think these sort of events aren't all that common. With the amount of religious congregations in the the areas I lived (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc) you would think that in all those years someone would have "gotten" to me. Wrong. It's never happened to me.
Obviously it's happening to some amount of people because once in a blue moon I hear someone complain about having 30 seconds of their day stolen by some religious servant like I am supposed to believe they would have been making millions of dollars on Wall Street, curing cancer or aids or making peace in the Middle East of they just had those 30 seconds back.
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