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SolMiester

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wow, that was a lesson in card dynamics!....i'll disappear into the shadows again..LOL
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Everyone with an 8800 card and Vista have told me Nvidia drivers are a lot worse than you can imagine.

They're just as bad on XP...
 

Regs

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:) You have to admit that it does get boring around here unless one manufacturer has a lead over the other.
 

Gstanfor

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Originally posted by: Regs
:) You have to admit that it does get boring around here unless one manufacturer has a lead over the other.

No, thats not it - I think its blatantly obvious to even the terminally thick that one manufacturer certainly does have quite the lead over the other at present, yet "things are boring" in video (unless of course the rabble-rousers start their nonsense)...
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor

No, thats not it - I think its blatantly obvious to even the terminally thick that one manufacturer certainly does have quite the lead over the other at present, yet "things are boring" in video (unless of course the rabble-rousers start their nonsense)...


[/quote]it appears TWO manufacturers have a lead over *Another*

*cough*

:D

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37911
ATI has to come back in mainstream and notebook segments

even theInq get's it ... AMD needs to make a perceived *comeback*

... sooner than later ;)


--or else !
:Q
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
They didnt do just fine in the AMD XP days. They survived.

Where did you see this. Last I checked they did quite well despite not having the performance crown.

-Kevin

Sept 2001, Athlon Xp launches price ~ $30 share.

Steady decline in stock price until 2003, the stock price diving into the single digit dollar range up until the launch of the A64.

It doesnt take any research at all to figure out why that is.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: apoppin
more stupid "than normal"

we're talking about *video*, right ?

i think you created an oxymoron :p

you're digging yourself in deeper
:Q

:D

imagine if Rollo were still here
:shocked:

:laugh:


Rollo is still hear among us... some say he is crusader and other say he is wreckage. Which ever new name he goes by now... he will always be in our memory. He wasn?t a NVIDIA employee like most people believe but he was associated to NVIDIA viral program which brought his downfall :frown: . He represented Nvidia like no one could do in our little anandtech forum.

lmao.. it's funny now often you guys talk about rollo, esp considering how hard many of you guys worked to get him booted.

and no, rollo is neither wreckage or crusader; that should be blatantly evident as neither of them are nearly as entertaining.

rollo doesn't post here anymore (it's been about a year since he posted under another name), tho he does read the threads from time to time.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: apoppin
more stupid "than normal"

we're talking about *video*, right ?

i think you created an oxymoron :p

you're digging yourself in deeper
:Q

:D

imagine if Rollo were still here
:shocked:

:laugh:


Rollo is still hear among us... some say he is crusader and other say he is wreckage. Which ever new name he goes by now... he will always be in our memory. He wasn?t a NVIDIA employee like most people believe but he was associated to NVIDIA viral program which brought his downfall :frown: . He represented Nvidia like no one could do in our little anandtech forum.

lmao.. it's funny now often you guys talk about rollo, esp considering how hard many of you guys worked to get him booted.

and no, rollo is neither wreckage or crusader; that should be blatantly evident as neither of them are nearly as entertaining.

rollo doesn't post here anymore (it's been about a year since he posted under another name), tho he does read the threads from time to time.
clearly no one of his "stature" is here .. his "replacements" are beyond dull and can't even hold "their end" up in a debate

i *did not* work to get him booted :p

he self-destructed here one night when he was especially irritated [i admit "provoking" him ... but he was a Master of Provoking, so no "foul" on my part] and with a little Scotch to 'fortify' him, i imagine - he ADMITTED he lied ... repeatedly .. a real *shocker* .. he could have "hung tough" and would STILL be here. ;)

His *lie* ... deceit ... is what got him booted ... along with some insults to the Forum
sealed it for the Mods who didn't know what to "do with him" ... nvidia DOES advertise here, ya know. :lips:

that's all

and i *expect* if he asks the mods nicely enough ... and PROMISES to be *good* they will let him return - as Rollo with 'disclosure' ... eventually

i would not oppose it
:Q

... that means i get to take "ati's side" again

:D
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: apoppin
clearly no one of his "stature" is here .. his "replacements" are beyond dull and can't even hold "their end" up in a debate
Do you have one of Rollo's threads bookmarked or something?

Today's slow and I keep hearing about this Rollo character.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: apoppin
and i *expect* if he asks the mods nicely enough ... and PROMISES to be *good* they will let him return - as Rollo with 'disclosure' ... eventually

heh.. he has no desire to come back (other than perhaps lurking now and then to see if there's anything interesting being discussed). perhaps partly due to the title of this thread ;)

or maybe he just like God mode in the forums he mods so he can ban rather than be the banee :D


 

DeathReborn

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Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Originally posted by: apoppin
clearly no one of his "stature" is here .. his "replacements" are beyond dull and can't even hold "their end" up in a debate
Do you have one of Rollo's threads bookmarked or something?

Today's slow and I keep hearing about this Rollo character.

That's what Video is all about, talk about someone they don't like & that is banned until the cows come home... it's almost like a stuck record sometimes.

Question is, who thinks there'd be LESS arguements with him back? lol
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: apoppin
and i *expect* if he asks the mods nicely enough ... and PROMISES to be *good* they will let him return - as Rollo with 'disclosure' ... eventually

heh.. he has no desire to come back (other than perhaps lurking now and then to see if there's anything interesting being discussed). perhaps partly due to the title of this thread ;)

or maybe he just like God mode in the forums he mods so he can ban rather than be the banee :D

Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Originally posted by: apoppin
clearly no one of his "stature" is here .. his "replacements" are beyond dull and can't even hold "their end" up in a debate
Do you have one of Rollo's threads bookmarked or something?

Today's slow and I keep hearing about this Rollo character.

muahahahahaha.... he is a ghost! a legend! he never really existed! muahahahahaahah!
 

Ackmed

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Wow, pot and kettle come to mind. I seem to recall a certain someone saying such things about ATi's drivers. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, its a different story. Pretty funny. :eek:
 

SolMiester

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I liked Rollo!, and couldnt give a flying F if he worked for Nvidia or not, as I agreed with much he said.
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Originally posted by: apoppin
clearly no one of his "stature" is here .. his "replacements" are beyond dull and can't even hold "their end" up in a debate
Do you have one of Rollo's threads bookmarked or something?

Today's slow and I keep hearing about this Rollo character.

muahahahahaha.... he is a ghost! a legend! he never really existed! muahahahahaahah!
:Q

/me watches as the men in white coats drag CaiNaM away
 

Gstanfor

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Wow, pot and kettle come to mind. I seem to recall a certain someone saying such things about ATi's drivers. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, its a different story. Pretty funny. :eek:

Looks like the Rabble-Rouser has turned up... :frown: :disgust:

What has your little outburst got to do with the rest of this thread??? The only time drivers were really discussed it was concerning R200 not G80!

You are the one who should have been banned, not Rollo.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Originally posted by: apoppin
clearly no one of his "stature" is here .. his "replacements" are beyond dull and can't even hold "their end" up in a debate
Do you have one of Rollo's threads bookmarked or something?

Today's slow and I keep hearing about this Rollo character.
no bookmarks :p

search with Rollo as the Author ... in the Archives [over 3 months]

i bet he'd come back in a heartbeat :p
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Looks like the Rabble-Rouser has turned up... :frown: :disgust:

What has your little outburst got to do with the rest of this thread??? The only time drivers were really discussed it was concerning R200 not G80!

You are the one who should have been banned, not Rollo.

Hmm, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but even I saw the posts about G80 drivers in this thread.

"Nvidia's drivers are not as bad as people (Particularly the Inq) make them out to be. You are an absolute fan boy if you think their drivers are bad enough that they might as well not have released the card. While they have their bugs (more than normal), they are improving with each release. Nvidia may not have chosen the best to release a completely new architecture on top of providing support for a new OS. " Gamingphreek

"Everyone with an 8800 card and Vista have told me Nvidia drivers are a lot worse than you can imagine. " BladeVenom

In reference to the above - "They're just as bad on XP..." Aikouka

"What we need is some sort of a deathmatch between AT video users... perfect solution for getting rid of the frustration that people are facing lately, e.g vista drivers to R600 delays. " Cookie Monster

 

ibex333

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
What happened to the experienced, knowledgeable users on this forum.

First off, AMD/ATI is not going to go out of business. Just because they don't have their High End part out yet, does not mean they are in any trouble whatsoever. Not only that, they haven't lost much market share at all. Think about it, there is a very small percentage that buys High End Video cards.

Nvidia's drivers are not as bad as people (Particularly the Inq) make them out to be. You are an absolute fan boy if you think their drivers are bad enough that they might as well not have released the card. While they have their bugs (more than normal), they are improving with each release. Nvidia may not have chosen the best to release a completely new architecture on top of providing support for a new OS.

These lawsuits are ridiculous, go nowhere, and help nobody. What in the world are people's basis for a class action lawsuit? They don't have the drivers we are used to out. I'll give you a hint, this happens with every single new OS (MS based) release. All you are going to do is divide the companies attention and cause everyone else a whole lot of grief. Reminding them that we are here and waiting is good, but seriously these lawsuits are absolutely ludicrous.

Now, people posting that they are swearing off one brand or the other have lost it as well. Why would you swear off an entire brand because they continue to push it back. Are you saying that if they produce a card 2x as fast you wont buy it because it was late? For those who are swearing Nvidia off- Are you saying you are going to swear them off forever because they don't have the most stable drivers out there? Give me a break people, stop being prima donna's and live with it!

I honestly hope people will start thinking before they exaggerate beyond belief the events pertaining to the video cards.

-Kevin




Honestly I dont even know whatthe big deal is.... No good drivers for Vista? So what? Screw Vista. Why would I want it if I'm perfectly fine with XP? Hell I dont even want it at all! It's like throwing away an old comfortable jacket to buy a new one just because your wife said so! But the old one feels so good and so right... lol

Those who must be on the bleeding edge have to deal with driver problems. That's the reality. I'm sure these people are NOT the majority. I'm sure that the people who bought Vista for the "right" reasons are happy with it, and do not complain. Those who torrented Vista and play around with it for fun are those who whine and cry on forums because the new "toy" did not live up to their expectations.
 

Piuc2020

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Originally posted by: ibex333
Honestly I dont even know what the big deal is.... No good drivers for Vista? So what? Screw Vista. Why would I want it if I'm perfectly fine with XP? Hell I dont even want it at all! It's like throwing away an old comfortable jacket to buy a new one just because your wife said so! But the old one feels so good and so right... lol

Those who must be on the bleeding edge have to deal with driver problems. That's the reality. I'm sure these people are NOT the majority. I'm sure that the people who bought Vista for the "right" reasons are happy with it, and do not complain. Those who torrented Vista and play around with it for fun are those who whine and cry on forums because the new "toy" did not live up to their expectations.

I always see the "perfectly fine with XP" argument for not going to Vista. Matter of fact is, we would all still be fine with Windows 95, heck, we might be perfectly fine without computers either (we might even be better than today) but the truth is we will always want something more advanced or better, Vista is better, you can be fine with XP but you could be better with Vista and Vista does really alleviate tons of issues XP has. If XP is the only OS you have ever used, sure its going to be the best because thats all you know but once you use Mac OS X and Linux you realize there is a lot of stuff that could be better with XP.

And I swear, if I ever heard one of these stupid lawsuits again, I'll completely lose faith in the US Law System (I already have almost completely), it is no wonder some people think citizens of the United States (why do they call themselves Americans?) are so dumb.

But I digress...
 

CP5670

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ibex333

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Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Originally posted by: ibex333
Honestly I dont even know what the big deal is.... No good drivers for Vista? So what? Screw Vista. Why would I want it if I'm perfectly fine with XP? Hell I dont even want it at all! It's like throwing away an old comfortable jacket to buy a new one just because your wife said so! But the old one feels so good and so right... lol

Those who must be on the bleeding edge have to deal with driver problems. That's the reality. I'm sure these people are NOT the majority. I'm sure that the people who bought Vista for the "right" reasons are happy with it, and do not complain. Those who torrented Vista and play around with it for fun are those who whine and cry on forums because the new "toy" did not live up to their expectations.

I always see the "perfectly fine with XP" argument for not going to Vista. Matter of fact is, we would all still be fine with Windows 95, heck, we might be perfectly fine without computers either (we might even be better than today) but the truth is we will always want something more advanced or better, Vista is better, you can be fine with XP but you could be better with Vista and Vista does really alleviate tons of issues XP has. If XP is the only OS you have ever used, sure its going to be the best because thats all you know but once you use Mac OS X and Linux you realize there is a lot of stuff that could be better with XP.

And I swear, if I ever heard one of these stupid lawsuits again, I'll completely lose faith in the US Law System (I already have almost completely), it is no wonder some people think citizens of the United States (why do they call themselves Americans?) are so dumb.

But I digress...




Your arguement is no good, because you cant compare win 95 to win xp.. XP is better by a mile. vista is not much better than XP. XP is actually NECESSARY for an average user as opposed to Vista. Win 95/98 is no longer updated nor supported by microsoft and most 3rd party manufacturers, it doesnt have the usability or capability of XP. vista on the other hand is not necessary at all because the support for it is actually worse than that of XP. There is not a single feature in Vista that is truly NECESSARY for an average user. All the visual stuff is junk, and the only really nice thing is superfetch which is not a necessity at all. Just something that can allow you to get more from your system - a power toy. Many will disagree, but if I get fast performance from my system with Win XP, why would I want anything faster unless I program or gfx design/movie encode? Again, we are talking about average ppl here, right? Because if we are not, I take back what I said.

As for the lawsuits... lol

Havent you learned yet that America is a country where you can sue anyone for anything?
Hell, I can sue you, and say something as ridiculous as "he caused mental stress to me by arguing my points in a wrong way". I can even win if I have enough money.
This is the idiocy of this country at it's best! It's the medical system and the law system. The crazy part is that even Russia is now adopting all the same stupid rules and regulations. See.. this is what happens when in a country, money stands above anything else... Above health, morals, people's lives, and virtues. But I'm geting carried away here. This is NOT the time nor the place for such discussions. (sorry)
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Originally posted by: ibex333
Honestly I dont even know what the big deal is.... No good drivers for Vista? So what? Screw Vista. Why would I want it if I'm perfectly fine with XP? Hell I dont even want it at all! It's like throwing away an old comfortable jacket to buy a new one just because your wife said so! But the old one feels so good and so right... lol

Those who must be on the bleeding edge have to deal with driver problems. That's the reality. I'm sure these people are NOT the majority. I'm sure that the people who bought Vista for the "right" reasons are happy with it, and do not complain. Those who torrented Vista and play around with it for fun are those who whine and cry on forums because the new "toy" did not live up to their expectations.

I always see the "perfectly fine with XP" argument for not going to Vista. Matter of fact is, we would all still be fine with Windows 95, heck, we might be perfectly fine without computers either (we might even be better than today) but the truth is we will always want something more advanced or better, Vista is better, you can be fine with XP but you could be better with Vista and Vista does really alleviate tons of issues XP has. If XP is the only OS you have ever used, sure its going to be the best because thats all you know but once you use Mac OS X and Linux you realize there is a lot of stuff that could be better with XP.

And I swear, if I ever heard one of these stupid lawsuits again, I'll completely lose faith in the US Law System (I already have almost completely), it is no wonder some people think citizens of the United States (why do they call themselves Americans?) are so dumb.

But I digress...

the difference is that Vista doesn't offer much over XP, at least at this point in time. there are some useful features, but really for most gamers/enthusiasts DX10 is the only "must have" feature, and it's not useful yet as no games support it.

Supreme Commander is likely going to be the first title to support it, and that's via a patch that's not going to be made available until mid to late March, AFTER MS releases a DX10 update for Vista.

OTOH, XP was worlds better than win9x.