Handsome Her goes bust.

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dank69

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I've voted for both Democrats and Republicans as recently as 2016. It was some time during GWB's presidency that I soured on the direction of the right, hated how crazy they got when Obama was in office (he's a communist muslim dictator that won't cede power after his terms, ya know). I was anti-Trump (and not crazy about Hillary either) up to the 2016 election. After Trump won, the left has gone full retard, we see today them sprinting left in response to Trump, and I no longer agree with them in many areas. I also think they've become the real dividers in this country, the real racists today. They will inject and manufacture racism regularly to push their narrative. Trump has won me over with his pro-American push. The left has pushed me away with their division and hate.
So Obama wasn't any of those things. He was a...<checks avatar>...pussy.
 
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This cafe, owned by lesbian bigots, charged a 18% "man tax" a week per month in an effort to charge men extra for the imaginary wage gap between men and women. Happy to see these bigots are closing down shop.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/handsome-her-vegan-cafe-melbourne-closing-a4124781.html

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/24/handsome-her-vegan-cafe-that-charged-18-man-tax-sh/

"“When we opened Handsome Her in 2017, we expected that perhaps we might make a stir through our brazen public discussions of structural inequality and oppression,” the cafe said in a Facebook post. “The man tax blew up the internet, an idea that we didn’t think was all too radical, yet the way the world responded showed us how fragile masculinity is and solidified the necessity for us to confront and dismantle patriarchy."

Wage gap, patriarchy, inequality... all make believe.

Of course this comes form the same nation that used tax dollars to indoctrinate with things like this.

#fuckofftroll
 
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I've voted for both Democrats and Republicans as recently as 2016. It was some time during GWB's presidency that I soured on the direction of the right, hated how crazy they got when Obama was in office (he's a communist muslim dictator that won't cede power after his terms, ya know). I was anti-Trump (and not crazy about Hillary either) up to the 2016 election. After Trump won, the left has gone full retard, we see today them sprinting left in response to Trump, and I no longer agree with them in many areas. I also think they've become the real dividers in this country, the real racists today. They will inject and manufacture racism regularly to push their narrative. Trump has won me over with his pro-American push. The left has pushed me away with their division and hate.

That fire department better get here soon. It's a 4 alarm blaze at this point.
 

dawp

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OMG how many times does your own posting history from way back have to be dredged up before you stop repeating this lie?
he may have been liberal before the better part of him ran down his momma's leg.
 

JEDIYoda

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Correct, I do not believe (at least in America, I am not a citizen of Australia) that there is not inequality despite the left's attempt to make victims out of people by telling them that there is. Everyone has opportunity to make something great of themselves, and I believe skin color, race, sex, religion, etc. does not affect that opportunity. Culture celebrated by different groups of people certainly may, but that isn't inequality.
Whata misguided derelect of a person you are!! You cannot possibly believe that everybody regardless of skin color, race, sex, religion, etc. do0es not affect their opportunity to succeed!
You are a twisted person!!
 
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he may have been liberal before the better part of him ran down his momma's leg.

Nah, he probably used to live in Liberal which would explain a lot if you knew the area (my fondest memories of there were the ones that I don't even remember because they were forgotten as quick as it took to drive through; the next fondest was my stepdad telling me a story about a man that died by falling into a vat of boiling animal parts in a rendering plant near there, followed by the time I spent puking my guts out in a truckstop there while we waited after our car broke down coming home from visiting family - hence why I've been through there far too many times).

That area would remind you of Texas Chainsaw Massacre (you know when they pickup the hitchiker?). And I can see why it would inspire such movies. The general area does provide some worth these days, wind farms and agriculture, plus if you like beef plenty of stockyards - just you know, have fun smelling cow shit after you pass cow concentration camps every so often, and try not to retch seeing them literally shooting the shit flowing from those places on the crops growing in the fields next to them; brings new meaning to pick the corn outta the shit).
 

SlowSpyder

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Whata misguided derelect of a person you are!! You cannot possibly believe that everybody regardless of skin color, race, sex, religion, etc. do0es not affect their opportunity to succeed!
You are a twisted person!!


Nope, I just don't buy into the leftist lies. If one makes responsible decisions and puts in the effort it is difficult to fail in America. That has nothing to do with skin color, race, religion, etc. The Democrats want people to think they are victims though, it gets them votes. They use fear and FUD very effectively for votes.
 

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I think Slow is representing himself honestly here. His point that the left is moving further left is fair, and it doesn't exactly invite people with some conservativism to join them. But there really is no leader presently in between them and Trump as an alternative to turn to. To the extent that some Republicans are resisting Trump, they aren't asserting themselves as alternatives with alternative platforms.

And I think the most critical areas for conservatives to consider abandoning Trump are ones of more progressive social values, e.g. equity where a rigid stance of either you support us or you're a racist/etc. is not productive. There is something valid in Slow's words even though the conclusion drawn from them is wrong. It is true that many people are not taking agency in bettering their position including many among disadvantaged groups. I think he totally misses an understanding of how society acts to determine that lack of agency, but also I think many on the left totally miss how lack of agency is a big societal problem in itself and how boosting agency will naturally work in the interest of equity.
 

Vic

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I think Slow is representing himself honestly here. His point that the left is moving further left is fair, and it doesn't exactly invite people with some conservativism to join them. But there really is no leader presently in between them and Trump as an alternative to turn to. To the extent that some Republicans are resisting Trump, they aren't asserting themselves as alternatives with alternative platforms.

And I think the most critical areas for conservatives to consider abandoning Trump are ones of more progressive social values, e.g. equity where a rigid stance of either you support us or you're a racist/etc. is not productive. There is something valid in Slow's words even though the conclusion drawn from them is wrong. It is true that many people are not taking agency in bettering their position including many among disadvantaged groups. I think he totally misses an understanding of how society acts to determine that lack of agency, but also I think many on the left totally miss how lack of agency is a big societal problem in itself and how boosting agency will naturally work in the interest of equity.

It might look like that is what Slow is doing, but what he really does is dredge up outlier instances of leftists acting badly and present them as something that all liberals agree with. And then, when liberals condemn his dishonesty, he attacks them as though they support whatever outlier it was he found, regardless of how many times they tell him that they don't. Case in point, no one here has defended Handsome Her, despite all his false claims that attacks on him are the same as defense of Handsome Her.
You should check his "Offended Liberal" thread. It's full of unoffended liberals.
Because that's Slow's identity politics: that all people within certain groups, as he chooses to define them, act and believe in certain ways, as he chooses to define that (or as was defined for him by propaganda).
And the purpose of Slow's agenda is also propaganda, to try to tell Republicans that there is no alternative to Trump. That it's either Trump, or be subjugated by militant women, gays, and minorities.
Now, if he were to honestly present the issue of agency, as you just did here, I would wholeheartedly agree with it. However, he's usually too busy trying to strip people of their individual agency by telling them what they believe, how they act, what they must or must not agree with, etc. Just ask him, he'll tell you that all leftists and liberals believe and act the same, which is why he's against identity politics. I hope you get my point.
 
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It might look like that is what Slow is doing, but what he really does is dredge up outlier instances of leftists acting badly and present them as something that all liberals agree with. And then, when liberals condemn his dishonesty, he attacks them as though they support whatever outlier it was he found, regardless of how many times they tell him that they don't. Case in point, no one here has defended Handsome Her, despite all his false claims that attacks on him are the same as defense of Handsome Her.
You should check his "Offended Liberal" thread. It's full of unoffended liberals.
Because that's Slow's identity politics: that all people within certain groups, as he chooses to define them, act and believe in certain ways, as he chooses to define that (or as was defined for him by propaganda).
And the purpose of Slow's agenda is also propaganda, to try to tell Republicans that there is no alternative to Trump. That it's either Trump, or be subjugated by militant women, gays, and minorities.
Now, if he were to honestly present the issue of agency, as you just did here, I would wholeheartedly agree with it. However, he's usually too busy trying to strip people of their individual agency by telling them what they believe, how they act, what they must or must not agree with, etc. Just ask him, he'll tell you that all leftists and liberals believe and act the same, which is why he's against identity politics. I hope you get my point.


But I don't think this is an outlier. I think the bigoted owners of Handsome Her are representative of a significant portion of the Democrats and left in general. A socialist almost beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries, people look up to AOC are not uncommon in my experiences with lefties. Liberal colleges have protests over benign conservative speakers coming to campus. I see this very extreme leftism here.
 

Genx87

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Sounds like alienating half the consumers and following it up with a crappy high priced product for the other half is not a recipe for success.
 

soundforbjt

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But I don't think this is an outlier. I think the bigoted owners of Handsome Her are representative of a significant portion of the Democrats and left in general. A socialist almost beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries, people look up to AOC are not uncommon in my experiences with lefties. Liberal colleges have protests over benign conservative speakers coming to campus. I see this very extreme leftism here.
An outlier in the Outback...so a restaurant in Australia represents Democrats in the US, that takes some far fetching there and I do mean far.
 

Vic

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But I don't think this is an outlier. I think the bigoted owners of Handsome Her are representative of a significant portion of the Democrats and left in general. A socialist almost beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries, people look up to AOC are not uncommon in my experiences with lefties. Liberal colleges have protests over benign conservative speakers coming to campus. I see this very extreme leftism here.

You see what you want to see, and nothing else. You want Handsome Her to be representative of Democrats, so that is what you see. You want your experiences with lefties to be socialists, etc, so that is what you seek out. And to do this, you willfully ignore that it was just one little failed restaurant in Australia, that European-style 'socialism' is actually a mixed economy with healthy doses of capitalism, and that conservative groups have also staged protests at colleges over benign liberal speakers coming to campus.
 

SlowSpyder

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An outlier in the Outback...so a restaurant in Australia represents Democrats in the US, that takes some far fetching there and I do mean far.

I clearly said the left in general. You don't believe there are militant feminist types here?
 

Vic

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I clearly said the left in general. You don't believe there are militant feminist types here?
Of course there are. But they are outliers, not representative of Democrats in general, as you framed it just earlier.
The other thing you do, in order to see what you want to see, is misinterpret attacks on your individual character as attacks on your political identity.
 
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Perhaps the left does not extricate the radical social progressives similarly to the right's failure to extricate white nationalists. Those groups are far from equivalent, mind you, but from an outside perspective it's easy to distort either whole through their extremes.
 
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But I don't think this is an outlier. I think the bigoted owners of Handsome Her are representative of a significant portion of the Democrats and left in general. A socialist almost beat Hillary Clinton in the primaries, people look up to AOC are not uncommon in my experiences with lefties. Liberal colleges have protests over benign conservative speakers coming to campus. I see this very extreme leftism here.

#fuckofftroll