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Hamas Targeted Israeli Nuclear Facility With Rockets

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You know what, I can't think of any non Islamic country who would want to support Islamic cause and people.
So, even if Israel would increase it's firepower and kill more Islamic people(it's already doing that though). I don't think situation would change much.
Non Islamic countries have no to nil sympathy for these disillusioned people. And Israel can easily afford to wipe this country out. While the other countries would look elsewhere and won't interfere in Israel's affairs.

What are you talking about? We never helped israel until 6 Arab armies cynically attacked Israel on Yom Kippur and her back was against the wall and real weapons were about to be deployed. We were totally in arabs pocket for lucrative contracts to build those countries and oil. We play both sides now. Arm up egypt, Saudi, Jordan, Kuwait. Aid pals with billions. And of course arm Israel.

We arm Israel not for any sort of altruism. We just don't want them going ape on our real allies where we make trillions in gulf.

If Israel attacked our interests in say Saudi or the other terrorist supporters we'd probably smack them down. To much money on the line.
 
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The Iron Dome's missiles are much cheaper right now due to changes in the system, there was a story about it a few days ago.
Basically, after everyone complained about spending so much money to hit simple rockets, they (Rafael) realized they could use the ground radar for much of the guidance, reducing the amount of hardware on the missile itself. It only "wakes up" on the final stage for last second guidance.

Current cost is a couple of thousands per missile.
 
Statistically the number of people on this board who want to wipe out Islam, is vastly larger then Muslims who want to live in peace
The number would be like 99 to .00000000000000001
lol I'm tempted to agree, but I suspect that even within Islam there must be a few more people who want to live in peace. Or was that a Freudian slip?

You do realize that when discussions turn to anything to do with Israel you have zero credibility.
Except he's correct. Surely the truth carries with it a certain amount of credibility even if one is completely biased toward one side?

The Iron Dome's missiles are much cheaper right now due to changes in the system, there was a story about it a few days ago.
Basically, after everyone complained about spending so much money to hit simple rockets, they (Rafael) realized they could use the ground radar for much of the guidance, reducing the amount of hardware on the missile itself. It only "wakes up" on the final stage for last second guidance.

Current cost is a couple of thousands per missile.
Freakin' bargain. Hopefully American defense contractors will license this system from Rafael for point defense.
 
The Iron Dome's missiles are much cheaper right now due to changes in the system, there was a story about it a few days ago.
Basically, after everyone complained about spending so much money to hit simple rockets, they (Rafael) realized they could use the ground radar for much of the guidance, reducing the amount of hardware on the missile itself. It only "wakes up" on the final stage for last second guidance.

Current cost is a couple of thousands per missile.

link or it didn't happen, cuz seemingly every website is reporting way higher figures:

Each interception rocket costs around $95,000 (£55,000) so Iron Dome is not used against missiles heading for open ground.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/09/iron-dome-gaza-israel-air-defence-missile

I have a hard time believing they could shave 90% off the cost of each rocket...
 
No sympathy here for Hamas or Palestinians. The way to end this immediate conflict is for Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel.

However, they will not. Not while they can play the victim.
 
lol I'm tempted to agree, but I suspect that even within Islam there must be a few more people who want to live in peace. Or was that a Freudian slip?


Except he's correct. Surely the truth carries with it a certain amount of credibility even if one is completely biased toward one side?


Freakin' bargain. Hopefully American defense contractors will license this system from Rafael for point defense.

IIRC Israel's defense funding from the US this year stipulated that they will allow Raytheon to partner with Rafael in order to develop a US Iron Dome variant.
 
They are like parasites. Once these shia and sunni would take others out. Then they would start a war between themselves. And it would go on forever. These Islam believing people are always going to fight. It's there nature. It's that way there religion is. Islam is a social evil that needs to be wiped out if humanity needs to exist.
it is a genetic issue, not a social one. people who practice islam are the majority race which also happens to be savage.

Crude bigotry.

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it is a genetic issue, not a social one. people who practice islam are the majority race which also happens to be savage.

I wonder if people used to say the same thing when the Christian Europe was in the barbaric ages. Not too long ago.

But then again, I don't expect people to actually know history. CNN and FOX are not the outlets for it, nor are your typical trashy internet sites. That requires reading, books, and all that scary stuff.
 
I wonder if people used to say the same thing when the Christian Europe was in the barbaric ages. Not too long ago.
definitely. those who were "Roman Catholic" (in quotes because no one is universal) were mtDNA haplogroup H, dolichocephalic, and had A blood type (they got smallpox at a very high rate) while the Calvinists and pre-Calvinists (like the waldensians and cathars) had O blood type, were brachycephalic, and had mtDNA haplogroup U/K
 
definitely. those who were "Roman Catholic" (in quotes because no one is universal) were mtDNA haplogroup H, dolichocephalic, and had A blood type (they got smallpox at a very high rate) while the Calvinists and pre-Calvinists (like the waldensians and cathars) had O blood type, were brachycephalic, and had mtDNA haplogroup U/K

What were their phrenology results?
 
IIRC Israel's defense funding from the US this year stipulated that they will allow Raytheon to partner with Rafael in order to develop a US Iron Dome variant.

Another reason Israel should cut ties with US. One day US will turn on Israel and favor their oil allies or worse bow to terror, Best be able to win with superior firepower. Can get vetos from china whos begging for tech,
 
I used to feel bad for Palestinians, after all who doesnt favor the underdog - until I researched this issue. From how jews were treated in ME from time of Mohammed on. To what's written about jews in Muslims "holy" book. To what kids are taught in mosques, schools and arab TV to this day. Not so much anymore. They [Muslims and then colloquially taken further against all Palestinians] bring it on themselves.
Generalised hate speech continued by one on the record for the killing of all Muslims.

...until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam. Thats why they dont produce shit today in muslim world. Once infected they are fucked.
We should all recall propaganda of past ages classifying the Jewish religion and Jews as a disease to be eradicated.

We have Zebo unequivocally stating Islam to be a disease and to "kill the attendance" of Mosques to achieve "world peace."

These are hatefully violent extremist incitements on par with other terrorists such as Ander's Breivik and should absolutely face zero tolerance in a civilised community.

As posted by Zebo, here are his hateful and consistently expressed desires to condemn all Muslims and therefore justification for what ought to be inflicted upon all of them:

Other than that Muslims behead on live TV, rape little girls, execute prisoners en masse, blow themselves up, mostly killing other Muslims but especially minorities, lying, and praying to a phony prophet who advocated killing infidels. Scum [Muslims] of the earth that produces nothing of any redeeming qualities except death and destruction in ME.

Islam is radical and incompatible with modern world if you take a fundamentalist interpretation. Muslims say it themselves. I'm not sure how we will reconcile this situation. Prolly Nuclear Armageddon.

Lets kill the attendance of the poison and fairy tales Mosques tech too if you want world peace.[since received a revised edit by Zebo to help save his face]
Zebo is recorded to regularly single out all Muslims for vilification, hatred, and death.

Not alone in hosted presentations at this forum, with unintended irony of sick ironies, he justifies the ethnic cleansing and genocide of all members of the targeted population to protect the State of Israel.
 
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Whiskey16 seems to have made it his project to paint a slanted picture of me on this topic.

I've repeatedly stated my bias against religious extremism and violence. As an atheist, I'm opposed to religious extremism on an equal-opportunity basis. I've praised the reduction in religious fervor and church attendance that we've come to see in Christian and Jewish faith in the West. I believe that a more secular society moves us away from the unquestioning hatred and malevolence associated with Christian extremism which are linked to awful times like the Crusades and the Dark Ages.

Today, Islamic extremists provide a shining example of some of the worst things that can come from religion. Even worse, the more violent, fundamentalist, extremist minority can force an indifferent majority to go along with the hatred and violence by threatening the lives of the people where they live (such as the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Hamas is Israel).

The fundamentalist, violent mindset saying it can only be "us" or "them" creates a situation where compromise becomes virtually impossible. It makes me despair for a peaceful solution when I'm forced to either accept a repressive, militant, fundamentalist takeover of an area, or a violent counter-attack to suppress the radicals.

Yes, I've worried that the inability to compromise or even accept the existence of the other side can lead to genocide. And if the radicals acquire nuclear capability, I worry about nuclear apocalypse. And that's why I vehemently oppose violent religious extremism.

I don't hate Muslims. I reserve that emotion for the violent, hateful, radical extremists who use religious justifications of their violent acts as a shield so their actions cannot be questioned.
 
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BTW what the hell is "hate speech" ... in usa you have first amendment which is right to free speech. I'll exercise that right that doesnt exist in places like saudi arabia where they kill you for blasphemy...If you don't exercise a right, you tend to lose it... Shaming. Like, 'Oh, my gosh, you said something bad about xyz? You're a monster!'" Has no effect on me and shouldn't on anyone else.
 
Hate speech is succinct generalised hatred of supremacist views to dehumanise, villify, on through to advocate violence upon an entire targeted group that has been isolated due ethnicity, race, nationionalism and/or religion.

As proved, Zebo is regularly on record for generalised hatred directed upon ALL Muslims and through to ALL non-Israeli Palestinians.

Only when challenged upon his violent supremacism and bigotry does he attempt to save face and dishonestly revise his perspective as "only against extremist elements."

No Zebo, you are explicitly clear in your record here of characterising Islam and Palestians as extremism warranting retribution, "killing," and infectious cleansing to achieve "world peace."

Such a hatefully violent and bigoted agenda has no place in a civilised society and is grossly detrimental to the decorum of such a forum.
 
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