Hamas strikes again

[Lemon law]

From the links I have seen, this latest round of missiles does not come from Hamas at all, but rather other fringe terrorist groups.

If Israel is itching for another chance to kill another 1300 people, they will not do themselves any good.

Not when the rest of the world is even more determined that a separate and viable Palestinian State is a more viable option. And face the facts, the viable part has to come out of Israeli claimed territory.

Even Turkey is now really pissed off at Israel.

 

[Overgloc]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
We need Barrrack Hussein Obama to fix this, he knows how to interact with radicals.

Word!

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
From the links I have seen, this latest round of missiles does not come from Hamas at all, but rather other fringe terrorist groups.

If Israel is itching for another chance to kill another 1300 people, they will not do themselves any good.

Not when the rest of the world is even more determined that a separate and viable Palestinian State is a more viable option. And face the facts, the viable part has to come out of Israeli claimed territory.

Even Turkey is now really pissed off at Israel.

trust me, Israel does not think about killing 1300 innocent people, because they dont want to. now if all 1300 were, now I am not saying all those who died were bad, we actually hamas militants, than israel would want to kill them.

secondly, the only targets israel is attacking is those where fire is coming from, such as missile launching pads, etc

 

[ZzZGuy]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: Lemon law
From the links I have seen, this latest round of missiles does not come from Hamas at all, but rather other fringe terrorist groups.

If Israel is itching for another chance to kill another 1300 people, they will not do themselves any good.

Not when the rest of the world is even more determined that a separate and viable Palestinian State is a more viable option. And face the facts, the viable part has to come out of Israeli claimed territory.

Even Turkey is now really pissed off at Israel.

trust me, Israel does not think about killing 1300 innocent people, because they dont want to. now if all 1300 were, now I am not saying all those who died were bad, we actually hamas militants, than israel would want to kill them.

secondly, the only targets israel is attacking is those where fire is coming from, such as missile launching pads, etc

IIRC they went after a tunnel or two along with a "bomb making factory" in response to rocket fire since the unilateral cease fire. So they appear to make it painful for hamas to launch any more rockets or allow other terrorists to do so.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
From the links I have seen, this latest round of missiles does not come from Hamas at all, but rather other fringe terrorist groups.

If Israel is itching for another chance to kill another 1300 people, they will not do themselves any good.

Not when the rest of the world is even more determined that a separate and viable Palestinian State is a more viable option. And face the facts, the viable part has to come out of Israeli claimed territory.

Even Turkey is now really pissed off at Israel.

Hamas gives winks/nods & support to those "fringe" groups.

Hamas has the ability to prevent the attacks if they choose to.

They want to act the innocent - they lost that ability when the took control of the Gaza government by force.
They are responsible for actions within thearea they govern.

Just as Israel is responsbile for the acts of their people.

 

[kylebisme]

Sure, Israeli has no responsibility to Palestinians except to colonize their land out from under them and kill anyone who gets in the way. :disgust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...hlander.wordpress.com/

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Sure, Israeli has no responsibility to Palestinians except to colonize their land out from under them and kill anyone who gets in the way. :disgust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...hlander.wordpress.com/

Palestine has no responsibility for any of there actions since everything is sanctioned as a reaction to Israel aggression right? Who cares if Hamas kills children, the blame should fall on Israel since if Israel did not do X, Hamas would not have to do Y.

What pathetic logic.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: RichardE
Palestine has no responsibility for any of there actions since everything is sanctioned as a reaction to Israel aggression right?

Wrong.

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who cares if Hamas kills children, the blame should fall on Israel since if Israel did not do X, Hamas would not have to do Y.

What pathetic logic.

That is your own pathetic attempt at logic, you moron.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: RichardE
Palestine has no responsibility for any of there actions since everything is sanctioned as a reaction to Israel aggression right?

Wrong.

Originally posted by: RichardE
Who cares if Hamas kills children, the blame should fall on Israel since if Israel did not do X, Hamas would not have to do Y.

What pathetic logic.

That is your own pathetic attempt at logic, you moron.

You have stated as much. Attempt at logic? I was explaining why you support the actions of Hamas.

 

[kylebisme]

You are just wallowing in your own delusions.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
You are just wallowing in your own delusions.

How so? You say a lot without any substance when people call you on your bullshit, having to resort to 3rd grade insults instead of actually defending your ideas. Must be hard to have to form a coherent thought that Google doesn't help you with huh.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: ZzZGuy

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: Lemon law
From the links I have seen, this latest round of missiles does not come from Hamas at all, but rather other fringe terrorist groups.

If Israel is itching for another chance to kill another 1300 people, they will not do themselves any good.

Not when the rest of the world is even more determined that a separate and viable Palestinian State is a more viable option. And face the facts, the viable part has to come out of Israeli claimed territory.

Even Turkey is now really pissed off at Israel.

trust me, Israel does not think about killing 1300 innocent people, because they dont want to. now if all 1300 were, now I am not saying all those who died were bad, we actually hamas militants, than israel would want to kill them.

secondly, the only targets israel is attacking is those where fire is coming from, such as missile launching pads, etc

IIRC they went after a tunnel or two along with a "bomb making factory" in response to rocket fire since the unilateral cease fire. So they appear to make it painful for hamas to launch any more rockets or allow other terrorists to do so.

well ofcourse. thats all israel wants, no more attacks on it, so they are going after the sources

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
You are just wallowing in your own delusions.

How so? You say a lot without any substance when people call you on your bullshit, having to resort to 3rd grade insults instead of actually defending your ideas. Must be hard to have to form a coherent thought that Google doesn't help you with huh.

You constantly ignore the substance of my posts and misrepresent them with your imagination, any you can't even Google the word "condone" to familiarize yourself with it's meaning.

Again, are just wallowing in your own delusions.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
You are just wallowing in your own delusions.

How so? You say a lot without any substance when people call you on your bullshit, having to resort to 3rd grade insults instead of actually defending your ideas. Must be hard to have to form a coherent thought that Google doesn't help you with huh.

You constantly ignore the substance of my posts and misrepresent them with your imagination, any you can't even Google the word "condone" to familiarize yourself with it's meaning.

Again, are just wallowing in your own delusions.

Again, you try to deflect the entire meaning of my post with your own strawmen. The logic you use to justify the attacks from Hamas is pathetic.

 

[kylebisme]

I make no attempt to justify the attacks from Hamas, you moron.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I make no attempt to justify the attacks from Hamas, you moron.

Yes you do continuously by responding to any suggestion that Hamas has done wrong with a self righteous post regarding how "Israel drove them to it by X, Y, Z". You justify the attacks by Hamas by referring to Israel as the cause for attacks.

 

[kylebisme]

Rather, I point out the fact that Hamas wrongs don't exist vacuum, since you constantly attempt to characterise them as such in your psychotic support of Israel's ongoing conquest over what little is left of Palestine.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Rather, I point out the fact that Hamas wrongs don't exist vacuum, since you constantly attempt to characterise them as such in your psychotic support of Israel's ongoing conquest over what little is left of Palestine.

You go beyond simple explanations to avoiding ever actually calling the actions of Hamas wrong. As I said to you before you believe the ends justify the means in regards to the actions of Hamas and your unwavering support of them show that.

 

[kylebisme]

I regularly note that terrorism wrong, be it from Hamas or otherwise. Hell, I did as much right there in the post you quoted. You've just got your head shoved too far up your own ass to comprehend me.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I regularly note that terrorism wrong, be it from Hamas or otherwise. Hell, I did as much right there in the post you quoted. You've just got your head shoved too far up your own ass to comprehend me.

Oh I know you do. The problem is that you do not consider the actions of Hamas to be terrorist acts since they are justified.

 

[palehorse]

The ceasefire has been broken by the Palestinians... again.
Palestinian militants fired four rockets into southern Israel on Sunday, police said.

 

[maddogchen]

lets see what the Israelis do now with Obama in power....

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: palehorse
The ceasefire has been broken by the Palestinians... again.
Palestinian militants fired four rockets into southern Israel on Sunday, police said.

From that link

Israel was holding to its position that "if firing continues against residents of the south, there would be a sharp Israeli response that would be disproportionate," Olmert vowed at the beginning of the weekly Cabinet meeting. "We will not go back to the rules of the game that the terrorist organizations tried to dictate in the past. ... We will act according to new rules that will ensure that we are not dragged into an unending shooting war on the southern border."

About time.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
You are just wallowing in your own delusions.

How so? You say a lot without any substance when people call you on your bullshit, having to resort to 3rd grade insults instead of actually defending your ideas. Must be hard to have to form a coherent thought that Google doesn't help you with huh.

You constantly ignore the substance of my posts and misrepresent them with your imagination, any you can't even Google the word "condone" to familiarize yourself with it's meaning.

Again, are just wallowing in your own delusions.

I wouldnt be talking, you skipped over my post which shows how rediculous you think its justifiable for the entire arab world to teach hate over a small piece of land, even though none of the countries even want the palestinians.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: RichardE
Oh I know you do. The problem is that you do not consider the actions of Hamas to be terrorist acts since they are justified.

I consider all violence or threat of violence used to intimidate or coerce others to be terrorist acts. If you could manage to pull your head out of your ass long enough to actually look at what I've said, you would understand I that condemn Hamas for such terrorism, as I have said multiple times now in this thread alone.

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
I wouldnt be talking, you skipped over my post which shows how rediculous you think its justifiable for the entire arab world to teach hate over a small piece of land, even though none of the countries even want the palestinians.

I responded to that argument by pointing out your own equaly unjustifiable perpetuation of hatred towards the the entire Arab world over those two small pieces of land. Land which is legally Palestinian territory under international law, but which Israel insists on keeping millions of people defenceless on, while colonizing it out from under them, and killing off anyone who gets in the way. That is the part you constantly skip over while pointing your finger at everyone but Israel in your relentless support of the ongoing conquest over what little is left of Palestine.