Hamas Leader Killed in Israeli Strike

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
OMG, I can't believe you guys are honestly defending him. Oh brother. Oh and alchie, I guess it's back to "us against them" again? Your whole "turning a new leaf" thing didn't last long . . .

Actually, my issue is that an elite member had just as vicious as an attack, and he wasn't banned.

And my new leaf turning is I'm not going to single out people in my signature.

Give me a break. Moonbeam's comment was a joke. Lighten up.

I wasn't referring to Moonbeams comment. Moonbeam can drag himself through the mud all he wants to. AFAIK there isn't a banning policy for trolls.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: dahunan
Why were the Palestinians and Arafat kicked out of Jordan by the govt there?

Arafat chose terrorism as a form of resistance against the Israelis at a VERY early age - yet somehow he became the leader of the Palestinian people??

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/lebanon.html
In 1970 Arafat and his PLO were kicked out of Jordan when he began to move against King Hussein. That bloody day was known as Black September. Arafat fled to the unsuspecting and friendly arms of the Lebanese people. Lebanon was formerly governed jointly by Muslims and Christians according to the agreement after WWII. In the twelve years Arafat was there (1970 until the Israelis threw him out in 1982) he turned Lebanon into one of the most bloody killing grounds in the world. At least 100,000 Lebanese civilians were killed. Every corner of Beirut was a checkpoint for the terrorists to collect money, take your car, or simply blow you away. Muslim and Christian militia killed each other with joy.
When Israel captured Beirut, they found that captured Christian soldiers were brought to Muslim hospitals where they were literally drained of their blood for transfusions to wounded Muslim PLO terrorists. One village chief made the mistake of defying Arafat. His 16 year old daughter was kidnapped and delivered to her father's doorstep in a sack, with her breasts cut off. The PLO adopted the Roman practice of tearing a man apart by using horses pulling his limbs in four directions. Arafat's men were more modern, using fours cars to dismember a man.

- Emanuel A. Winston

Ya, you quote a site called yahoodi, which means jew. I'm sure that's a real unbiased and objective perspective on the whole thing. Show those same numbers and "facts" from a source that has nothing to gain by demonizing someone else.

I didn't even look at the URL -

Here is how I found it
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=palestinians+kicked+out+of+lebanon

I actually meant to type Jordan instead of lebanon

So, are you disputing the info or just the source?

Ya, I have trouble beleiving stuff like this:

When Israel captured Beirut, they found that captured Christian soldiers were brought to Muslim hospitals where they were literally drained of their blood for transfusions to wounded Muslim PLO terrorists. One village chief made the mistake of defying Arafat. His 16 year old daughter was kidnapped and delivered to her father's doorstep in a sack, with her breasts cut off. The PLO adopted the Roman practice of tearing a man apart by using horses pulling his limbs in four directions. Arafat's men were more modern, using fours cars to dismember a man.

Do you have any other sources documenting these kind of things? I have the same problem with Arabs who talk about acts commited by Jewish people that make them seem like blood thirsty animals. There is a lot to gain by making your enemy look as bad as possible.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
OMG, I can't believe you guys are honestly defending him. Oh brother. Oh and alchie, I guess it's back to "us against them" again? Your whole "turning a new leaf" thing didn't last long . . .

Actually, my issue is that an elite member had just as vicious as an attack, and he wasn't banned.

And my new leaf turning is I'm not going to single out people in my signature.

Is the elite calling Romans828 a cockroach the vicious attack? but Romans cockroach comment not a vicious attack?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
OMG, I can't believe you guys are honestly defending him. Oh brother. Oh and alchie, I guess it's back to "us against them" again? Your whole "turning a new leaf" thing didn't last long . . .

Actually, my issue is that an elite member had just as vicious as an attack, and he wasn't banned.

And my new leaf turning is I'm not going to single out people in my signature.

Is the elite calling Romans828 a cockroach the vicious attack? but Romans cockroach comment not a vicious attack?

It sure was nasty. Deserving of a vacation. If you want to see where there wasn't a vacation (elite member), see here.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Geez, can't you guys just let it go? Romans never offered anything worthwile to any discussion. You know you're lying to yourself if you say you will miss him.

 

[Spencer278]

Ok I agree that should have gotten a vacation. And there is a whole forum made just to complain about the mods when don't you stop making off topic post in this thread and bring the issue there.

 

[joshw10]

I think the most ridiculous thing is Israel can destroy everything "Palestinian" in a matter of hours, yet Palestinians seem to think they have some kind of leverage or negociating power. The only thing they have is knowing that there would be international backlash against Israel if they ever tried something like that. They'd be wise to start acting like weak victims instead of trying to fight something they can never win.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: joshw10
I think the most ridiculous thing is Israel can destroy everything "Palestinian" in a matter of hours, yet Palestinians seem to think they have some kind of leverage or negociating power. The only thing they have is knowing that there would be international backlash against Israel if they ever tried something like that. They'd be wise to start acting like weak victims instead of trying to fight something they can never win.

lets see, kill millions of people, that would make them no better than the nazi's who killed millions of jews. The wall they are constructing is already distressing enough. Maybe Sharon learned a little to much Nazi history

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
OMG, I can't believe you guys are honestly defending him. Oh brother. Oh and alchie, I guess it's back to "us against them" again? Your whole "turning a new leaf" thing didn't last long . . .

Actually, my issue is that an elite member had just as vicious as an attack, and he wasn't banned.

And my new leaf turning is I'm not going to single out people in my signature.

Moonie's response was hardly as vicious. Read their exchanges again and tell me how you think that. And as for your sig, you think sweeping generalizations about 1/2 the country being "traitors" is an improvement? Christ, I'd like to see what you do when you fall of the wagon.

EDIT: Oh, you were talking about perknose's comments?

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Let's see that is the guy who declared war on the United States right. That why I say Hey man nice shot!

 

[0roo0roo]

So on which side are the cockroaches? I'm somewhat new to the whole scenario but the way I see it is that Israel is pretty much being a d*ck about things. Last count that I saw was that Palestinian losses were about 3500 to the Israeli 500. Who's doing more of the killing?

moral righteousness is not based on numbers alone. else hitler and the nazi's would have to be judged morally superior as they lost many times what americans did.

lets see, kill millions of people, that would make them no better than the nazi's who killed millions of jews. The wall they are constructing is already distressing enough. Maybe Sharon learned a little to much Nazi history

the point is that they are not the same. if they were both the same, they would do as hamas does, kill as many as possible using any means possible. there would simply be no palestinians left. so they are not the same. not to mention the numbers are misleading. the majority of palestinian casualties are young men. i wonder why? and the israeli casualties more reflect the general population. also, the fact that the israeli number is low at all is only because of the relentless work of the security forces that prevent most attacks. if the palestinians were allowed to simply carry out their murderious intentions, the numbers would be 10 times worse. and the fact is, israeli emergency medical care has become rather advanced, many that would have died, survive thanks to this rapid care system. course these numbers are never listed.

as for the fence, a fence to keep out your attackers who intentionally target your civilians, well thats not exactly nazi is it.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Let's see that is the guy who declared war on the United States right. That why I say Hey man nice shot!

Is that your opinion or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing like you have previously stated that you always do?

There are too many idiots in this world, one got killed, now if someone would just whack that terrorist Sharon and a few other idiots on both sides, maybe they could start over. Oh, i forgot, they can't, Bush has already approved and applauded Sharons plan to keep some occupied territories, international law and that green line means nothing when you have the firepower to eradicate every nation in the world, does it?

I just hope someone would launch a nuke so we can shut this failure of a planet down for good.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

So on which side are the cockroaches? I'm somewhat new to the whole scenario but the way I see it is that Israel is pretty much being a d*ck about things. Last count that I saw was that Palestinian losses were about 3500 to the Israeli 500. Who's doing more of the killing?

moral righteousness is not based on numbers alone. else hitler and the nazi's would have to be judged morally superior as they lost many times what americans did.

lets see, kill millions of people, that would make them no better than the nazi's who killed millions of jews. The wall they are constructing is already distressing enough. Maybe Sharon learned a little to much Nazi history

the point is that they are not the same. if they were both the same, they would do as hamas does, kill as many as possible using any means possible. there would simply be no palestinians left. so they are not the same. not to mention the numbers are misleading. the majority of palestinian casualties are young men. i wonder why? and the israeli casualties more reflect the general population. also, the fact that the israeli number is low at all is only because of the relentless work of the security forces that prevent most attacks. if the palestinians were allowed to simply carry out their murderious intentions, the numbers would be 10 times worse. and the fact is, israeli emergency medical care has become rather advanced, many that would have died, survive thanks to this rapid care system. course these numbers are never listed.

as for the fence, a fence to keep out your attackers who intentionally target your civilians, well thats not exactly nazi is it.

They are the same their both fight with their best means with the goal of eleminating the other population. The claim that Isreal holds some kind of moral high ground because she has better weapons is just stupid.

 

[0roo0roo]

apparently israel is completely incompetent with her better weapons considering how few palestinains she is able to kill considernig her vast power stop with the bs.

 

[Ozoned]

Palestine asks for international support and condemnation and promises revenge.


Linkage

"We ask the international community to enforce the Geneva Convention and send an international protection force to the Palestinian territories immediately."
Saib Uraiqat, the Palesitnian negotiation minister

Our revenge will be swift and strong"
Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades supporters

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Romans828
Wow this topic/thread sure has brought the cockroaches out into the open

Yup, just as soon as you posted.

FU you piece if Sh*t

You need a voluntary vacation Romans . . . not everyone shares your point of view. Get used to it. It takes two to tango and the Israelis and Palestinians have been trading tit for tat killings and murder for a long time now. Blaming one side and not the other only shows you're interested in 1/2 the story.

Romans made a general observation.

Moonbeam made the fist personal attack but since he's an elite and favorite son, nothing will happen to him.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Actually I was hoping they were going to kill that guy, and they did. Good Job Israel!

 

[dahunan]

Doesn't it seem ironic to seek sympathy for the killing of a Terrorist Mastermind?

It is similar to child molesters standing up and seeking revenge everytime one of their types were put to death.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Palestine asks for international support and condemnation and promises revenge.


Linkage

"We ask the international community to enforce the Geneva Convention and send an international protection force to the Palestinian territories immediately."
Saib Uraiqat, the Palesitnian negotiation minister

Our revenge will be swift and strong"
Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades supporters

thats the thing. they promise to kill jewish civilians as revenge for a killing of their terror leaders. and when they don't have that excuse, they just kill jewish civilians because of "occupation"...and cuz well, they are jews. can't lose! u get to kill no matter what!

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
apparently israel is completely incompetent with her better weapons considering how few palestinains she is able to kill considernig her vast power stop with the bs.

She doesn't unleash all her weapons on the palestinains because then the US would be forced to cut off the grave train of aid.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Our revenge will be swift and strong"
Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades supporters
He's next if he said that. Go get him Mr Sharon!
Get every one of them sonsabitches.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't it seem ironic to seek sympathy for the killing of a Terrorist Mastermind?

It is similar to child molesters standing up and seeking revenge everytime one of their types were put to death.

Who is seeking sympathy for the dead terrorist Mastermind. To say it is the wrong courses of action for isreal to assisinate the leaders of palestine isn't sympathy. It does not bring that area closer to peace. Will the assisination stop the suicided bombings or will it make them worses?

I think it would be wise of isreal to learn the saying that the devil you know is better then the devil you don't.

 

[0roo0roo]

is that really all thats holding them back? how does that explain israeli arab/palestinian citizens? they give citizenship to those that they can barely hold themselves back from killing? let alone let them hold government positions and vote?

think about it, they wouldn't need us aid if there were no palestinians left...would they? not to mention they had no us support in the early wars when they could have easily turned to genocide and cleansed the entire area.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't it seem ironic to seek sympathy for the killing of a Terrorist Mastermind?

It is similar to child molesters standing up and seeking revenge everytime one of their types were put to death.

Who is seeking sympathy for the dead terrorist Mastermind. To say it is the wrong courses of action for isreal to assisinate the leaders of palestine isn't sympathy. It does not bring that area closer to peace. Will the assisination stop the suicided bombings or will it make them worses?

I think it would be wise of isreal to learn the saying that the devil you know is better then the devil you don't.

So you are saying that "leaders of palestine" = terrorist masterminds Why should terrorist masterminds be allowed to breathe one second longer if you know how to kill them?

Why are palestinians supporting terrorist masterminds?

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: dahunan
Doesn't it seem ironic to seek sympathy for the killing of a Terrorist Mastermind?

It is similar to child molesters standing up and seeking revenge everytime one of their types were put to death.

Who is seeking sympathy for the dead terrorist Mastermind. To say it is the wrong courses of action for isreal to assisinate the leaders of palestine isn't sympathy. It does not bring that area closer to peace. Will the assisination stop the suicided bombings or will it make them worses?

I think it would be wise of isreal to learn the saying that the devil you know is better then the devil you don't.

So you are saying that "leaders of palestine" = terrorist masterminds Why should terrorist masterminds be allowed to breathe one second longer if you know how to kill them?

Why are palestinians supporting terrorist masterminds?

They should be allowed to breathe because killing them won't stop the violence. The end result would be their is no leader who might be able to restrian the terrorist and ensure that their will not be peace. How can you negoiate a truce with an army without any command?