Why Michael, If I knew how you felt, I'd have stopped posting long ago. Who could have dreamed you felt like a sh!t throwing ape. But maybe you could explain to me why it bothers you that knowing what you call me is how you feel about yourself. You want to throw sh!t but you don't want to find out how you are? I'm amazed. Next thing you know and you'll be calling me a troll.
LunarRay
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Gee Michael, someone indicates that 'this thread brings out the cockroaches...' or some such thing. Another member takes issue with that comment.. The referring poster comes back with a really nasty comment... presumably the result of being called 'The Cockroach' and gets chastised by the forum authorities. Then the 'band of brothers of the political environment' align against the person who took issue with the initial comment, I assume, because he generally belongs to the opposite 'family' of political thought. It seems to me they were trying to entice him to retort in some similar nasty manner so he too would be chastised.. and all manner of critical comments are thrown at him to that end. That is just so unfair, but consistent.
It is the same in all the threads. Folks keep missing the salient point that Moonbeam makes which is: There is the one side and the other but, there really is another side.. the third side.. The side that says neither side is right... either side is wrong.. It is wrong because killing another is wrong.. inherently wrong.. That if all people would find the reason for the need to kill within themselves the solution would be at hand.. eliminate the hate within and the violence would cease.. it is the third way.. the only way to end the violence.. They need an army of therapists there, not soldiers.. The same everywhere.. I think..
Posted (and bolded) for those of you who posted pithy comments about Bush/Sharon and/or a cock. Evidently Sharon is hung like a horse (see Lilblingblingdingding for details) because Bush and Kerry are evidently sucking it 24/7.
Your terrorism -- is someone elses war.[/quote]
"Playing fairly" huh?
There is no playing fair in war if you want to win the war and Israel is fighting a war against Hamas.
But suicide bombing will happen as long as a person thinks they are worth more dead than alive.
This is the least intelligent post I've read in a long, long time. Then again this thread is chock full of stupid posts.
While I sympathize to a certain degree with the struggles that the Palestinians have, your post makes little sense. If I understand you right in the first phrase I bolded, you're saying you would be willing to kill innocent people because of hardships in your life? Way to glorify terrorism as courageous and justified; too bad innocent people died so that a terrorist coward could "get his point across", but I guess that doesn't need to be mentioned in your post. It's not about the Israeli's going about murder in a more elegant manner, the goals of the two sides are completely different. The goal of a Palestinian suicide bomber (I assume), is to kill as many innocent Israeli civilians as possible. The goal of all Palestinian directed terrorism against Israel is by their own admission to "drive Israel into the sea", to wipe them out completely, etc. I don't think the goal of Israel's targeted missile strikes is to kill as many Palestinian civilians as possible, nor do I think that Israel has as part of its agenda the destruction of the Palestinian people. Also, you claim that if the roles were reversed Israeli's would be doing the same thing as Palestinian terrorists are now. How do you come to that conclusion? You are oversimplifying the entire situation by pretending that the roles could ever be perfectly reversed. The Palestinian terrorists are not blowing Israeli people up because a wall was put up, or because they were stopped at security checkpoints. They are committing these acts because they feel Israel should be wiped off the map, and that it doesn't have a right to exist. If Israel feels the same way about Palestine/Palestinians, something I don't believe, they have never actually come out and said it as the Palestinian militants have numerous times. This is the second thread I've read tonight in which Palestinian terrorism has actually won sympathy from people. And here I thought non-violence was one of the tenets of liberalism.
Typical liberal opinion of themselves: on the side of love, compassion, and understanding. Where did you get the figures in your post, if I may ask? I suggest you check out Palestinian Media Watch and temper your admittedly "new" ideas of the conflict.
This is the lest intelligent post I've read in a long, long time. Then again this thread is chock full of stupid posts.[/quote]
and what constructive bits of information did you care to share with us Einstein, other than your flagrantly stupid post
btw, before you go calling other people stupid, why don't you check your fvcking spelling.
I would rather be regarded as unintelligent for having a typo in my post (yes, I do know how to spell the word 'least'), than for being of the opinion that Israel should resort to terrorism and suicide bombers instead of targeted missile strikes.
earthman
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Israel has only been reaping what it has been sowing. No, terrorism isn't right, and no, it doesn't solve anything. Terrorism by Hamas or any other group will never topple the Israeli state, which, with our help has become the most militarized in the world. Israel has persisted in treating the palestinian people in a sub-human manner, provoking them to more violence. The leaders of groups like Hamas and Fatah exploit this anger and despair ruthlessly, and have built a culture of death over the years where killing and suicide are both extolled as model behavior. Until someone is willing to step back, not much will change. Israel, in spite of its power and wealth, remains paranoid due to its small land area, which is perceived as a strategic vulnerability. In the mind of Israel, a Palestinian state would merely be another base of attack, they can't see it any other way. It is doubtful there can be a viable Palestinian state made from the small bits of land alloted to the PA at this point. And with a wall around Israel and parts of the west bank, it's even more unlikely. As long as Israel persists in denying any kind of meaningful rights or livlihood to the vast bulk of palestinians, they will have all the terrorism they can handle. Their practice of using heavy military weapons like tanks, missles, and gunships in heavily populated areas is despicable, and would never be tolerated if done by another "ally". A previous attempt on the life of a Hamas leader (I think it was Rantisi) resulted in a missile launch into a crowded apartment building that killed two dozen people, most of them children. Is this kind of action really justified? Could you picture the American military intentionally doing something that crazy? Read Read more
0roo0roo
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it is justified, and any rational compassionate country including the US makes such decisions all the time. in the war against iraq we dropped precision weapons near civilian buildings if the target was a leader of sufficient value to justify the risk to civliians. sometimes intellegence mistakes led to civilian deaths, we bombed the wrong buildings at times.
your tirade against heavy weapons like tanks and missles isn't grounded in reality. israel bombs a target like rantisi when theres not much choice, and furthermore, they do it with precision weapons. why not just cluster bomb the area? perhaps naplam and burn down a town? easily done, but no, instead they target just the man with rockets. most recently they took out the hamas leader as he got into a car, not when he was in a mosque or other buildings, but when he was relatively far from civlians. it is a fantasy to think you can arrest such terrorists. think black hawk down. they live in dense areas full of sniper holes, and loaded with armed gunmen all over. the official plo has more then 70k gunmen alone. let alone the general terrorist supporters. marching in would lead to a blood bath of civilians caught in the crossfire. the fact is, when possible israel has sent in ground troops, and has suffered high casualties in order to spare as many civilian lives as possible. if they were as dispicable as u seem to think, they would spare every israeli life possible and simply indescriminately mass bomb from the air any problems they had instead of israeli blood on the ground
your tirade against heavy weapons like tanks and missles isn't grounded in reality. israel bombs a target like rantisi when theres not much choice, and furthermore, they do it with precision weapons. why not just cluster bomb the area? perhaps naplam and burn down a town? easily done, but no, instead they target just the man with rockets. most recently they took out the hamas leader as he got into a car, not when he was in a mosque or other buildings, but when he was relatively far from civlians. it is a fantasy to think you can arrest such terrorists. think black hawk down. they live in dense areas full of sniper holes, and loaded with armed gunmen all over. the official plo has more then 70k gunmen alone. let alone the general terrorist supporters. marching in would lead to a blood bath of civilians caught in the crossfire. the fact is, when possible israel has sent in ground troops, and has suffered high casualties in order to spare as many civilian lives as possible. if they were as dispicable as u seem to think, they would spare every israeli life possible and simply indescriminately mass bomb from the air any problems they had instead of israeli blood on the ground
Ist doch klar. Solche Typen wie du werden die NSDAP neu erfinden.
Ach ja, und bevor ich´s vergesse, kannst Du mit Deinen Legobausteinen schon ein kleines Häuschen zusammenbasteln oder lutschste immer noch am Daumen?
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