Hamas and Fatah agree to reunite.

[Abwx]

troll.

Not willing to aknowledge that the zionists
are your masters ??...

USA is ruled by AIPAC and Zionists lobbies,
wether it please you or not...


The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"
-----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
The long history of bipartisan Congressional ​

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Not willing to aknowledge that the zionists
are your masters ??...

USA is ruled by AIPAC and Zionists lobbies,
wether it please you or not...


The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"
-----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff

The long history of bipartisan Congressional ​

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that this poster is also firmly convinced the Joos were behind 9/11.

How about it Abwx? amiright?

 

[Abwx]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that this poster is also firmly convinced the Joos were behind 9/11.

How about it Abwx? amiright?

You are disgressing in respect of the post content...

Would have been smarter to give your opinion about
some former US representatives opinion pointing the
Zionist control of the US.

 

[Lemon law]

I think we can now say, Israel would invoke a fatal shit storm if they ever used a single one of their nukes.

Israel may think they can teach a lesson to a large country that a nuke would only wound, but Israel as a small country could not survive a single nuke that would rain down on a pit bull Israel from established powers in the USA, England, France, Russia, and also likely China if Israel used a single nuke. The only justification for Israeli use of nukes would be if invading armies were at their final gates. But that is so not the problem right now, as the larger world merely asks for and defacto demands the establishment of a Palestinian State. Rendering Israeli nukes as illegitimate currency in world diplomacy.

As it is there is a growing world consensus that the Mid-east should become a nuclear weapons free zone. Meaning if Israel makes even veiled threats about using its nukes, the international community will be on Israel like stink on shit.

And for that matter, few in the world or the USA, endorse the former policies of Kissinger or Nixon that have proved to be US disasters. But now the the forced resignation of Nixon who rested US mid-east policy on Israel is 36 years out of date, Bozo Netanyuhu places all his eggs in the basket of AIPAC save us.

 

[Karl Agathon]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that this poster is also firmly convinced the Joos were behind 9/11.

How about it Abwx? amiright?

Abwx like some others here dont like Jews/Isreal. To be fair though, there are actually a few here who have problems with israeli policies, but have nothing against Jewish people in general. There is a definite distinction between the two groups.

 

[Karl Agathon]

<<<The only justification for Israeli use of nukes would be if invading armies were at their final gates.>>>

LL thats basically the only time Israel would ever use them. Well, that and if they were struck with a bio/chem/nuclear attack first. No other country in the world would ever be expected to have hundreds of thousands if not millions of its citizens slaughtered and not retaliate in kind. Israel should be no different. Now hopefully this event will never happen and there will be some kind of peace in the not so distant future. Of course, I could jut be fooling myself.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

You are disgressing in respect of the post content...

Would have been smarter to give your opinion about
some former US representatives opinion pointing the
Zionist control of the US.

I asked you a simple question. Your sidestepping of that question is an answer in and of itself to the affirmative. Your responses expose the ridiculous extent of your 'Joo' paranoia too.

 

[Freshgeardude]

I think we can now say, Israel would invoke a fatal shit storm if they ever used a single one of their nukes.

Israel may think they can teach a lesson to a large country that a nuke would only wound, but Israel as a small country could not survive a single nuke that would rain down on a pit bull Israel from established powers in the USA, England, France, Russia, and also likely China if Israel used a single nuke. The only justification for Israeli use of nukes would be if invading armies were at their final gates. But that is so not the problem right now, as the larger world merely asks for and defacto demands the establishment of a Palestinian State. Rendering Israeli nukes as illegitimate currency in world diplomacy.

As it is there is a growing world consensus that the Mid-east should become a nuclear weapons free zone. Meaning if Israel makes even veiled threats about using its nukes, the international community will be on Israel like stink on shit.

And for that matter, few in the world or the USA, endorse the former policies of Kissinger or Nixon that have proved to be US disasters. But now the the forced resignation of Nixon who rested US mid-east policy on Israel is 36 years out of date, Bozo Netanyuhu places all his eggs in the basket of AIPAC save us.

No shit. Israel is in no position to use a nuclear bomb unless absolutely necessary, and back in 1973 was the closest they were to using one.


No nation on earth would be able to justifiably use a nuclear weapon unless on the brink of destruction.


and no nation on this planet will condemn another for using a last measure of survival, ESPECIALLY if they didnt start the war (like in 1973)

 

[Freshgeardude]

Not willing to aknowledge that the zionists
are your masters ??...

USA is ruled by AIPAC and Zionists lobbies,
wether it please you or not...

wait.... AIPAC and Zionist lobbies?

there are more than just aipac that pushes pro-israel agenda? I mean, cmon I know of a small one, but the way you say it, there are other huge groups pushing the agenda.


Also, lets not forget, AIPAC by no comparison is as large as AARP, National Rifle Association, National Federation of Independent Business, and National Association of Manufactures (for example)

yet, it pushes out more bipartisan support than many of these groups, if not all of them.


how can you blame an interest group for being so successful just because they have an agenda towards israel? AIPAC is TINY in comparison.


AIPAC is so successful at what it does for multiple reasons.
- They lobby those that are currently in office
- they lobby those running for office, regardless of political party
- they take congressmen to israel personally to show them the real facts. Experience is best learned in person than through media.
- They hold annual dinners.


None of the larger political lobbying groups go after those running for office. they always attach themselves AFTER the elections.


Lastly, to think the US is run by AIPAC and "zionist lobbies" is totally ridiculous and I invite you to bring evidence to support that.



Your hatred of jews and israel clouds your judgement.

The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"
-----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
The long history of bipartisan Congressional


​

​

cool beans. you have two quotes that bounce around the internet. one from 1973 and one from 1957.



We still dont know what country you live in. its amazing someone can talk so much crap about the US and Israel.

 

[werepossum]

troll.

That's not fair. He could just be basically dishonest. Or even just really, really, really stupid.

 

[Lemon law]

<<<The only justification for Israeli use of nukes would be if invading armies were at their final gates.>>>

LL thats basically the only time Israel would ever use them. Well, that and if they were struck with a bio/chem/nuclear attack first. No other country in the world would ever be expected to have hundreds of thousands if not millions of its citizens slaughtered and not retaliate in kind. Israel should be no different. Now hopefully this event will never happen and there will be some kind of peace in the not so distant future. Of course, I could jut be fooling myself.

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When ole Karl raises the specter of the use of bio-chemical against Israel, he raises an interesting question I have in the past warned about.

So rumor has, Iran gas large stockpiles of Chemical weapons and the rocket means to deliver it into Israel. Of course now with an operational iron dome ABM system, Israel may be marginally safer. But as a net effect it still adds up to an Israeli counter for both countries for mutual assured destruction.

But the whole defect in the Karl assumption lies in the fact that Israeli chemical and biological threats need not come from established countries. Because to a large extent, acquiring nuclear weapons threats has thus far eluded terrorists entities like Al-Quida, but Chemical and biological weapons are far lower tech.

And its no secret that over the years Israel has become a magnet for numerous terrorist groups, any of which may soon develop the capacity to manufacture and deliver chemical and biological weapons into Israel.

But when we talk about terrorists groups in general, the immediate distinction to be made is between State based terrorists and Stateless ones. We can say that Hamas is a state based terrorist group based in Gaza, and Hezbollah is a state based group based in Lebanon. And if such a state based terrorist group dares use Chemical or biological weapons against Israel, Israeli can and will deliver mass punishment to the very State population that serves as the State based terrorist group's home base.

But sadly the MAD argument holds no water when it comes to a stateless terrorist groups like Al-Quida. Because if they ever acquire chemical and biological weapons they would be happy to sneak into any country, and then launch chemical and biological weapons into Israel in what amounts to a false flag attack, and then if Israel retaliates against the innocent country who only sin was not absolute police state security, just a few such attacks could transform the entire mid-east to a kill or be killed scenario.

Thank God it has not happened yet, and the threat may be somewhat diminished with the death of Bin Laden, but if Israel can't defuse mid-east hatreds, I think is possible that stateless terrorist attacks will become a future reality.

Nor should we say its not easily doable, after all the 911 attacks were based on using the resources of the USA against itself.

 

[Freshgeardude]

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When ole Karl raises the specter of the use of bio-chemical against Israel, he raises an interesting question I have in the past warned about.

So rumor has, Iran gas large stockpiles of Chemical weapons and the rocket means to deliver it into Israel. Of course now with an operational iron dome ABM system, Israel may be marginally safer. But as a net effect it still adds up to an Israeli counter for both countries for mutual assured destruction.

But the whole defect in the Karl assumption lies in the fact that Israeli chemical and biological threats need not come from established countries. Because to a large extent, acquiring nuclear weapons threats has thus far eluded terrorists entities like Al-Quida, but Chemical and biological weapons are far lower tech.

And its no secret that over the years Israel has become a magnet for numerous terrorist groups, any of which may soon develop the capacity to manufacture and deliver chemical and biological weapons into Israel.

But when we talk about terrorists groups in general, the immediate distinction to be made is between State based terrorists and Stateless ones. We can say that Hamas is a state based terrorist group based in Gaza, and Hezbollah is a state based group based in Lebanon. And if such a state based terrorist group dares use Chemical or biological weapons against Israel, Israeli can and will deliver mass punishment to the very State population that serves as the State based terrorist group's home base.

But sadly the MAD argument holds no water when it comes to a stateless terrorist groups like Al-Quida. Because if they ever acquire chemical and biological weapons they would be happy to sneak into any country, and then launch chemical and biological weapons into Israel in what amounts to a false flag attack, and then if Israel retaliates against the innocent country who only sin was not absolute police state security, just a few such attacks could transform the entire mid-east to a kill or be killed scenario.

Thank God it has not happened yet, and the threat may be somewhat diminished with the death of Bin Laden, but if Israel can't defuse mid-east hatreds, I think is possible that stateless terrorist attacks will become a future reality.

Nor should we say its not easily doable, after all the 911 attacks were based on using the resources of the USA against itself.

All what you said is true. The thing though, all state run terrorist groups started out as stateless.


For hamas,it started out as a terrorist group which violently took over hazardous.


Hezbollah was not stoped by the Lebanese government and they are responsible.


The state is just as responsible for allowing a terrorist group to leak into their country and grow. Either they accept their beliefs and look the other way, or they do something about it.


Weak governments fall. Lebanon and gaza.


Strong governments, for instance, the us, do not fall t terrorism.

 

[wwswimming]

Not willing to aknowledge that the zionists
are your masters ??...

USA is ruled by AIPAC and Zionists lobbies,
wether it please you or not...


The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"
-----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff
The long history of bipartisan Congressional ​

Thanks for the education !

i knew Israel had a big Amen Choir but you filled in some of the blanks.

Usually I would say that Jews are not persecuted for their religion but rather for the way that they act as Jews but in this case the Zionists are not even Jews but rather Khazar-European-Zionist wanabe "Jews" who have nothing to do with the Jews of the Bible.

very true. Israel & their supporters like to use the term "anti-Semitic" to be-smirch those who tell the truth about their criminal activities - as if Israeli "Jews" were Semitic at all.

most Israeli's are Khazarian in origin. when they fled the Mid-East 2000 years ago, many settled in Khazaria, that part of the world which later became Western Russia (the Ukraine) and Eastern Europe (as Russia moved their borders to include parts of Europe, during the Cold War.)

Khazaria was a part of the world known for trading - it had a very central location. the Talmud which the Jews brought with them was very appealing to some of the locals - it provided a form of fellowship for those who would practice criminal activity. The Talmud taught & teaches Jews that it is OK to kill, steal from, commit pedophilia upon, and other savage disgraces, upon Gentiles. It was like a get-out-of-jail free card, and a crime gang, masquerading as a religion.

many Khazarians liked the Talmudic form of Judaism, though they didn't care much for the Old Testament and the 10 Commandments. so they became "Jews".

after the first Zionist Congress in 1897, the concept of a homeland for the Talmud-worshipping Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews, gained momentum. Palestine & Argentina were the prime contenders; Palestine won because it was near the oil.

in Europe, the Jewish people had their own infighting, like Shia & Sunni Muslims. many Western European Jews looked down upon the Ashkenazi Jews. a fact which the Ashkenazi Jews resented deeply. many Western European Jews also did not want to move to Palestine, so they presented a huge political impediment to the Jews who wanted to steal Palestine to make it their homeland.

the Ashkenazi Jews & the Israel Supporters found their solution & got their revenge - they negotiated with WW2 Germany for those who wanted to go to Palestine to go to Palestine. those who didn't support the concept of Israel, got to stay behind in WW2 Germany. What a deal !

& thoroughly documented by Jewish Historian Edwin Black -
The Transfer Agreement
by Edwin Black
http://www.transferagreement.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Agreement-Dramatic-Between-Palestine/dp/0786708417
"The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine (Paperback)"

Long Story Short, most Jewish people are not Semitic in origin.

 

[Ponce]

To those who called me a "troll," if to tell the truth is to be a troll then I guess that I am one, just for the Zionist in the state of Israel I came up with the following........
"When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark"... Ponce

Many here type a lot in defending the Zionist but remember this...... "It takes less words to tell the truth than to defend the lies"... Ponce

If you are a Zionist I don't blame you for trying to defend your belief but if you are a Goy and defending the Zionist I would suggest that you learn more about them before you try to defend them.

 

[Lemon law]

In defense of the Jewish people, they are a remarkable group that have kept their numerically small religion in tact and maintained their cultural identity no matter where they were in the world. And what makes it even more remarkable, that in the almost 1800 year almost total purge of Jews from Israel after the second diaspora, the cultural identity was maintained away from their original homes base of Israel. Moreover, due to the Jewish rabbinical tradition, the Jewish people have always tended to have a respect for learning and culture, that have often made their culture small Islands of learning at times when the larger majority surrounding them had descended into ignorance and disrespect of learning.

I can not think of any other comparable set of people in world history.

But I have always maintained, any Jewish frictions and Jewish antisemitic prejudice are not inherent in the religion of Judaism itself, but are more the fault of others who see ANY small minority as a threat.

But when it comes to the present Israeli government, my objections rest on the policies of the present Israeli government. Change those Israeli government policies, restore some fairness to the Palestinian people, and we can ALL have an Israeli government to support. Which is why I support a Palestinian State as maybe the best available way to transform Israel into a welcome and positive addition to the mid-east.

As Honest Abe said, a house divided against itself cannot stand, and we will never get to a just mid-east peace solution if we choose to view Palestinian Israeli issues as a purely adversarial issue, where one groups wins it all and the other loses it all.

 

[Ponce]

Lemon, the here say here in the US says that only 3&#37; of the population are "Jews", however, if you were to know anything about those people you would learn (as I did) the the count should be more like 16-18%........the reason for this is that the mayority of them changed their name to a name that does not sound "Jewish" in order to be able to infiltrate into the everyday life of the goys, this custom started in full force in Russia right after the killing of the Szar.

By the way, I would like to thank the Zionists here at this forum for not cursing me out, as is their custom, and only calling me a "troll"......instead of calling me a troll you should tell me why I am wrong in what I have said.....I am not saying this because I want to be "nice" but for the simply reason that I could be wrong and you just might change my mind with "real" evidence.

Please don't think of me as being a "anti-Semite" for the simple reason that I have nothing against 33% of Arabs who are Semite or against the Jews of the Bible.....I am only anti Zionist, remember that the Zionist political party was founded in Europe in 1897 and that they have nothing to do with the Jews of the Bible, If I am wrong then please tell me so, but with evidence.

 

[manimal]

anyone else thinking stadium tour?

woot supergroup!@

 

[Abwx]

Abwx like some others here dont like Jews/Isreal. To be fair though, there are actually a few here who have problems with israeli policies, but have nothing against Jewish people in general. There is a definite distinction between the two groups.

You should ask me my opinion rather than making false
assumption that suit your biaised point...

Jews are not a problem as jews, but as Zionists, they are.

Fact is israel refuse to apply about 92 UNO resolutions,
and primarly the ones that recognize the palestinians rights..

Since israel was legitimated by a UNO resolution,
the fact that they refuse recognition of the later resolutions
make israel illegitimated.

One cant use a law to his advantage and then negate
the very same laws when it doesn t suit his illegal behaviour..

But then, it s up to you to understand such basic
juridic matters, as proved by most of your posts..

 

[Lemon law]

To Ponce,

"Lemon, the here say here in the US says that only 3&#37; of the population are "Jews", however, if you were to know anything about those people you would learn (as I did) the the count should be more like 16-18%.."

Since my father was technically a Jew because his mother was Jewish, and I am a gentile because my mother was gentile, I think I know what I am talking about when
I seriously doubt you when you mumble 16-18%. But in the somewhat University Community I grew up their was no stigma either way. Us then children had other concerns than to worry about the religions of others.

But I also grew up next door to a Roman Catholic family with a son my age, and if you didn't like fish, don't accept a dinner invitation from them on Friday night. Now that comment is dated, but when I grew up it was current reality.

Its somewhat the wonder of the United States as it champions religious freedom. With nothing shameful to hide in any religion.

The other thing to say if you want to track Jews flying under false name colors, camp out at a synagog on a Saturday. As for me I never bothered to wonder about the religions or lack of it in the people I meet. Gee a big nose, must be Jewish is about the stupidest time wasting thing to speculate
on.

 

[Abwx]

edit : dp

 

[Abwx]

cool beans. you have two quotes that bounce around the internet. one from 1973 and one from 1957.

It escape you that if witnesses that dare to speak publicly,
are rare ,it s not by chance...

Dare to speak too loudly against Zionist and your career
will be ruined, so in essence, the US representatives
generaly take the money and stay mum while
voting anything that israel wants...

As an exemple, Rahm emmanue, advisor of Obama
on foreign matters was a former israeli officer..

One has to be naive to think that such a guy
will be an honnest and neutral advisor concerned
primarly by US interests..
But i guess that you have some kind of false pride
that make you negate the obvious...

 

[Abwx]

Lemon, the here say here in the US says that only 3% of the population are "Jews", however, if you were to know anything about those people you would learn (as I did) the the count should be more like 16-18%.........

Although i agree with you on many points, i think
this one is not true..

Such beliefs are due to the jews extreme visibility
in dominant positions due to their tendency to
autopromote themselves at the expense of often
more capable "goys"....

In other words, they act as some sort of maffia
when it comes to supporting zionism, often by
automatic communitarist reflexes even if they
do not really support extremists views..

Must be aknowledged that the zionist grip
on the jewish community is very tight..

 

[Ponce]

I have had five lawyers in my life time and three of them were Zionist "Jews" with other name than that of a "Jew"..... one current example is the one from 2 1/2 men where Sheen was kicked out of the show for saying the real name of the producer.

By the way, my 16-18&#37; numbers are my own and is a number that I came up with after reading for over 10 years about those people and how they operate.

You can fool most of the people most of the time but not all people all the time.

 

[Abwx]

I have had five lawyers in my life time and three of them were Zionist "Jews" with other name than that of a "Jew"..... one current example is the one from 2 1/2 men where Sheen was kicked out of the show for saying the real name of the producer.

By the way, my 16-18% numbers are my own and is a number that I came up with after reading for over 10 years about those people and how they operate..

Well, overall, i agree with you, but let s say that i ve got a sister
that was major (best ) in a whole country of Europe when
granted her lawyer degree, yet, not a single cabinet did hire her,
and it s necessary to be hired a few years before being given the
right to open your own business..
The only one that did hire her was a woman who was jewish.
I guess that it was some kind of women solidarity..

It s true that almost all jews i know personnaly are zionists,
and i once had fiercy debate with them..

That said, the context is a little different in Europe as
the french jews were simply astounded when they
met the US jewish leader that came in Europe..

They did simply find them quite extremist....


As for jews changing names, yes, that s sometimes
really funny since they can make phonetical adaptations
like arabic root name "abou bekr" (father of the helder)
was changed to "apotheker" (pharmacist) in germany!!

You can fool most of the people most of the time but not all people all the time.

Hum...Peter Tosh s "get up stand up" ??..
Wasnt it rather " you can fool the people sometime ,
but you cant fool all the people all the time" ?...

Indeed, Bob Marley s producer, Chris Blackwell, was a jew,
wich explain why the Rastas cosmogony was reshaped
to honor "zion" and other "exodus"...
The poor guys were heavily manipulated...

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Who the hell left the forum door open and allowed the Stormfront members to come in?