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trenchfoot

trenchfoot

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Vic said:
A guy with a gun who had been stalking him as he walked lawfully through his own neighborhood.
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And the police dispatcher told the guy with the gun "not to follow the suspect".

But nooooooo. Buckaroo gotta buck, so he disobeys the police and what follows is a testament to how a gun had empowered a wanna-be-cop into making a really stupid tragic decision.
 
HamburgerBoy

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tweaker2 said:
And the police dispatcher told the guy with the gun "not to follow the suspect".

But nooooooo. Buckaroo gotta buck, so he disobeys the police and what follows is a testament to how a gun had empowered a wanna-be-cop into making a really stupid tragic decision.
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We don't live in a police state. Cops have no authority to arbitrarily tell people not to walk around in public.
 
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LegendKiller

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tweaker2 said:
And the police dispatcher told the guy with the gun "not to follow the suspect".

But nooooooo. Buckaroo gotta buck, so he disobeys the police and what follows is a testament to how a gun had empowered a wanna-be-cop into making a really stupid tragic decision.
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The dispatcher told him that they didn't need him to do that, he wasn't told not to do it. Furthermore, they have no authority to order a private citizen. The dispatcher isn't a police officer.

Finally, he had lost trayvon. Trayvon left his house to hunt down Zimmerman, according to jeantel (prosecutions witness). You lose.

This is what I am talking about. Idiots like you swallow media narrative and lies.

Like the link above. Any swastika painted has to be a white supremacist trump supporter. Dude is a black democrat. But the media won't report that widely.
 
Vic

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LegendKiller said:
Then you should be fine with Zimmerman. He had every right to be where he was. He had every right to defend himself from a violent person.
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Zimmerman irresponsibly instigated the situation. Nothing would have happened if he hadn't assumed that the black kid was a thug. Your narrative is a crock of shit BTW. An invention of Zimmerman's legal team that they were able to get away with because the only other witness is dead. But you're okay with that, because it's what you want to believe.
 
Vic

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LegendKiller said:
It doesn't matter. Case law has already shown that if an officer has a belief the assailant is a threat to society he can be shot.

Assaulting and trying to incapacitate an officer is being a threat to society.
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Please cite the specific case law.

When does this start to get proactive? And how is it that a lying, sociopathic douchebag like you isn't a threat to society?
 
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LegendKiller

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Vic said:
Zimmerman irresponsibly instigated the situation. Nothing would have happened if he hadn't assumed that the black kid was a thug. Your narrative is a crock of shit BTW. An invention of Zimmerman's legal team that they were able to get away with because the only other witness is dead. But you're okay with that, because it's what you want to believe.
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It is not irresponsible for a private citizen to check things out in his neighborhood. I do it to out of town neighbor houses all of the time. They watch mine, I watch theirs. When it is snowy I go walk about and make sure it looks occupied. Walk around every few days and look for different footprints. This is important considering some neighbors leave for a month or two (trips home to india). And I live in a nice neighborhood. We have had a few breakins, so I help.

You bet your ass I'd check out people walking around my neighbors house at night. I have done it before.
 
ivwshane

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raildogg said:
It's weird how the media has been making race baiting stories ever since Obama came into power. It doesn't matter if they are leftists or righties. It's all a bunch of BS.

How did this country suddenly turn so different after Obama came into power? Where was the the supposed "outrage" before? Why now?

Just like the Trump people want to close the borders now and stop illegals now. What happened 10 years ago? What strange times we live in.

By the way, the racial strife is being made something more than it is by the media. They have an interest in public unrest. Keep that in mind whenever you see race baiting news stories. (This is not to deny racial injustice or any of that).
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Yeah its totally weird! I can't quite put my finger on it but it started around the time Obama was running for president and has escalated since. Hmmm...I wonder what Obama did to cause such racial tensions. I'm mean it has to be Obama, it's not like this country has a history of racial animosity, sedation, and racial hatred.

Hmmm...I wonder what the fuck it could be?



/s
 
HamburgerBoy

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Victorian Gray said:
Guess it's a good thing that's not what the dispatcher said.
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Yes it was. The dispatcher said to not follow Martin. Martin was walking around on a public street in a neighborhood. Zimmerman had every right to follow him. It's contentious the extent to which Zimmerman actually did follow Martin, but even if Zimmerman had completely ignored the orders and followed Martin up to the point where Martin attacked him, it changes nothing. You don't get to assault people just because they're looking at you suspiciously.
 
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LegendKiller

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Vic said:
Zimmerman irresponsibly instigated the situation. Nothing would have happened if he hadn't assumed that the black kid was a thug. Your narrative is a crock of shit BTW. An invention of Zimmerman's legal team that they were able to get away with because the only other witness is dead. But you're okay with that, because it's what you want to believe.
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Also, following somebody isn't instigating. Intentionally leaving your house to get the "cracker" is.
 
shady28

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Meanwhile at a Hillary rally :

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Vic

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LegendKiller said:
It is not irresponsible for a private citizen to check things out in his neighborhood. I do it to out of town neighbor houses all of the time. They watch mine, I watch theirs. When it is snowy I go walk about and make sure it looks occupied. Walk around every few days and look for different footprints. This is important considering some neighbors leave for a month or two (trips home to india). And I live in a nice neighborhood. We have had a few breakins, so I help.

You bet your ass I'd check out people walking around my neighbors house at night. I have done it before.
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And here's to hoping that one of those people you're 'checking out' is one of your neighbors, lawfully going about his business, and is lawfully armed.
 
trenchfoot

trenchfoot

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LegendKiller said:
The dispatcher told him that they didn't need him to do that, he wasn't told not to do it. Furthermore, they have no authority to order a private citizen. The dispatcher isn't a police officer.

Finally, he had lost trayvon. Trayvon left his house to hunt down Zimmerman, according to jeantel (prosecutions witness). You lose.

This is what I am talking about. Idiots like you swallow media narrative and lies.

Like the link above. Any swastika painted has to be a white supremacist trump supporter. Dude is a black democrat. But the media won't report that widely.
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Well there's Zimmerman's own words to the contrary, or did he take that back somehow?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckra...-dispatcher-told-me-not-to-follow-the-suspect

To be honest, I never followed this killing much as it was to me an incident where an idiot with a gun had something to prove and a senseless killing was the end result.

From that point on, it was just noise to me.

edit - Oh and by the way, I believe I never ever insulted you or anyone else in this forum by accusing them of being "an idiot" so if you don't mind, please don't hang that derision on me again. I expressed an honest opinion, that's it, that's all.

It seems to me when you resort to insulting folks to make a point it weakens your whole argument and makes you appear to be precisely what you accuse the other person of. ;)
 
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LegendKiller

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HamburgerBoy

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Vic said:
What authority did Zimmerman have to tell Martin not to walk around in public?
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Did he do that? The testimony from Martin's girlfriend stated that Martin went home first, told her about some "creepy ass cracker" following him, then went back to ask why Zimmerman was following him.

Even if Zimmerman yelled out first, "Hey, boy, what do you think you're doing 'round this here neighborhood?", that doesn't justify the ~30 seconds of assault that occurred by Martin.
 
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Victorian Gray

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LegendKiller said:
The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following him. When Zimmerman answered, "yeah", the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that." Zimmerman responded, "Okay."[52]
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So?

This was posted:

"We don't live in a police state. Cops have no authority to arbitrarily tell people not to walk around in public."

And I pointed out that wasn't what the dispatcher told him. Thanks for confirming that I guess?
 
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Victorian Gray

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HamburgerBoy said:
Yes it was. The dispatcher said to not follow Martin. Martin was walking around on a public street in a neighborhood. Zimmerman had every right to follow him. It's contentious the extent to which Zimmerman actually did follow Martin, but even if Zimmerman had completely ignored the orders and followed Martin up to the point where Martin attacked him, it changes nothing. You don't get to assault people just because they're looking at you suspiciously.
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This is what you said originally:

"We don't live in a police state. Cops have no authority to arbitrarily tell people not to walk around in public."

That is not what the dispatcher said. Not even close. Your argument appears to be with yourself. Have fun with that.
 
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