Haha! TopGear Rips the "Honda" NSX

[Evadman]

That was histerical.

No one will pay 70g's for a Honda. lmao.

 

[JYDog]

If the next NSX packs a V6 again, its gonna be a complete dud(it already looks to be the case).

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
Why don't honda put a Corvette LS1 engine in it 🙂, I mean GM is using Honda V6, so it's a fair trade.

Because it would break 4 times a year then 😉

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: PoPPeR
well, I agree with the conclusion, but his argument was a little um non existant? The only thing I heard him knock about the car was it's a Honda for 70 grand, and the mesh surrounding the gear knob and the retractable radio antenna.

Otherwise he said it handles great and has grip like no other. It sounds like he likes the car

70 Grand in GBP, or pounds or whatever they call it, which is $125,132.07 USD.

Porsche GT3 or 2 Corvette Z06's please. Or save up a little more and get a 360 Modena.

His argument is simply, its not worth it.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
Why don't honda put a Corvette LS1 engine in it 🙂, I mean GM is using Honda V6, so it's a fair trade.

Because it would break 4 times a year then 😉

pwn3d.

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
Why don't honda put a Corvette LS1 engine in it 🙂, I mean GM is using Honda V6, so it's a fair trade.

Because it would break 4 times a year then 😉

The LS1 is one of the best engine's thats been developed in a long time. Butt loads of torque (something Honda is only rumored to have), awesome power, tons of potential with mods. Its light, and somewhat cheap to produce compared to other exotic engines. There have been no problems with the LS1 block. My brother has an older LT1 with 188,000 miles on his Trans-Am. He has had no engine problems at all.

The LS6 variant gets up to 405hp naturally aspirated on a stock factory car. 33% more than a US-Spec NSX ever had, at almost half of the price.

The LS2 variant on the new C6 has 405 (or 400) hp on a base model, with a z06 version on the way, 500HP is very possible.

Vette would outhandle the NSX as well. The LS1 is a much superior engine to the H32 or whatever the NSX has.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Vette would outhandle the NSX as well.

Admittedly I've never driven a Vette or an NSX but are you sure you arn't just pulling this completely out of your ass?

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Vette would outhandle the NSX as well.

Admittedly I've never driven a Vette or an NSX, are you sure you arn't just pulling this completely out of your ass?

Comparison

Z06 out accelerates, out brakes, and slaloms faster than the NSX.

NSX is a great car, but the bottom line, its not worth its price.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Jigga
The NSX came out in what...1990?? And they've tweaked the engine once in that whole timespan? Wasn't this the first application of variable valve timing and lift control in any production vehicle...and now its standard in every Civic? Face it, the car was revolutionary...fourteen years ago!!! This is the car the Supra wanted to be, and even then it needed twin blowers to even come close.

The replacement is long overdue, and I pray to God that whatever hybrid powerplant they're trying to sell spanks any V8 engined car under $80,000 because otherwise it just won't be worth it.

It didn't have twin blowers, it had twin turbo's. If you're going to criticize something, at least use correct terminology.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Vette would outhandle the NSX as well.

Admittedly I've never driven a Vette or an NSX, are you sure you arn't just pulling this completely out of your ass?

Comparison

Z06 out accelerates, out brakes, and slaloms faster than the NSX.

NSX is a great car, but the bottom line, its not worth its price.

That does not mean that it handles better. I do agree that a new NSX is not worth the price.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Jigga
The NSX came out in what...1990?? And they've tweaked the engine once in that whole timespan? Wasn't this the first application of variable valve timing and lift control in any production vehicle...and now its standard in every Civic? Face it, the car was revolutionary...fourteen years ago!!! This is the car the Supra wanted to be, and even then it needed twin blowers to even come close.

Supra can outbrake an NSX and pulled a higher G in the skidpad. Who's trying to be who?

Yeah, I love getting next to sports cars and seeing who can stop the fastest! Accelerating quickly is for LOSERS. 😛

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Jigga
The NSX came out in what...1990?? And they've tweaked the engine once in that whole timespan? Wasn't this the first application of variable valve timing and lift control in any production vehicle...and now its standard in every Civic? Face it, the car was revolutionary...fourteen years ago!!! This is the car the Supra wanted to be, and even then it needed twin blowers to even come close.

Supra can outbrake an NSX and pulled a higher G in the skidpad. Who's trying to be who?

Yeah, I love getting next to sports cars and seeing who can stop the fastest! Accelerating quickly is for LOSERS. 😛

When you talk about braking, and the skidpad, you are talking about handling (which uses brakes, would ya look at that?), not your 0-60 or quarter mile time.

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Vette would outhandle the NSX as well.

Admittedly I've never driven a Vette or an NSX, are you sure you arn't just pulling this completely out of your ass?

Comparison

Z06 out accelerates, out brakes, and slaloms faster than the NSX.

NSX is a great car, but the bottom line, its not worth its price.

That does not mean that it handles better. I do agree that a new NSX is not worth the price.

I should rephrase. I can't find any comparison with a z06 and a NSX regarding handling. But it'll be close between both of them. Both are exceptionally well at handling, but the z06 is a bit lighter, has better brakes, and more power. The NSX might be better balanced since its Mid engined.

The NSX handles well, and Honda makes some great handling cars (ITR, S2000) and GM's main focus on the Vette for the past 3 generations has always been handling, the z06 improves on that. It would definately be pretty close, but if I really had to put my money down, I'd put it on the Z06.

On a course, the Z06 would tear the NSX apart. Not bad for a car thats almost 1/2 the price.

EDIT: I'm refering to a US-Spec NSX. I'm not sure about the NSX-R, or any of its specs.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
If Honda stopped screwing around and put a small, 400-horse, 8-cylinder that revved to about 9K rpm (ala Ferrarri) plenty of people would buy a $70K Honda.

Honda has the resources and the know-how; they lack the desire.

I've owned three Hondas in my time...great cars.

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!

To be taken seriously the NSX needs to be Ferrari.

I would buy a Ford if it could beat Ferrari.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: MichaelD
If Honda stopped screwing around and put a small, 400-horse, 8-cylinder that revved to about 9K rpm (ala Ferrarri) plenty of people would buy a $70K Honda.

Honda has the resources and the know-how; they lack the desire.

I've owned three Hondas in my time...great cars.

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!

To be taken seriously the NSX needs to be Ferrari.

I would buy a Ford if it could beat Ferrari.

So buy the Ford GT 😛.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: MichaelD
If Honda stopped screwing around and put a small, 400-horse, 8-cylinder that revved to about 9K rpm (ala Ferrarri) plenty of people would buy a $70K Honda.

Honda has the resources and the know-how; they lack the desire.

I've owned three Hondas in my time...great cars.

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!

To be taken seriously the NSX needs to be Ferrari.

I would buy a Ford if it could beat Ferrari.

So buy the Ford GT 😛.

That is my point. The Ford GT is legitimate because it can beat Ferrari.

Unless you are a snob, if the NSX could beat Ferrari and Porsche, it would not matter if it were built by Honda.

 

[0roo0roo]

i blame it on the acura slump of the 90s+ the dying market for sports cars that killed cars like the supra... so honda pretty much did almost the same. 13yrs old..bah. these days 60k gets u vetts/mustangs etc that eat it alive.

 

[boyRacer]

heh... if i had extra cash laying around... i would no doubt plunk over money for an NSX-R... 🙂

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: NFS4
"It costs 70 grand...and no one's gonna pay that much, for a Honda"

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!! 😛

Why does no one ever say this about the corvette? I mean people sit here jacking off all day to the Z06, but it must suck sink 50k in a chevy. I mean atleast when you buy an NSX, you get acura service. With a corvette, you still gotta wait in line behind the cavalier in front of you to get service. 😛

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: NFS4
"It costs 70 grand...and no one's gonna pay that much, for a Honda"

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!! 😛

Why does no one ever say this about the corvette? I mean people sit here jacking off all day to the Z06, but it must suck sink 50k in a chevy. I mean atleast when you buy an NSX, you get acura service. With a corvette, you still gotta wait in line behind the cavalier in front of you to get service. 😛

This forum rips on any Honda... 🙂

The car is old... i dont know any other car with a life cycle that has lasted this long... 😕 i dont know why people expect it to get better when very little has changed in the car.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

STEP AWAY FROM THE NSX!

😀

Worst bang for the buck "supercar" ever. Very nice car, but for its price. no thanks.

Even though i wouldn't buy one with my own money, I'd still hit it.

"Ever"? When the NSX first came out, didn't it single handedly make all those european supercar manufacturers clean up their act and stop building cars with the build quality of Hyundais?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: NFS4
"It costs 70 grand...and no one's gonna pay that much, for a Honda"

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!! 😛

Why does no one ever say this about the corvette? I mean people sit here jacking off all day to the Z06, but it must suck sink 50k in a chevy. I mean atleast when you buy an NSX, you get acura service. With a corvette, you still gotta wait in line behind the cavalier in front of you to get service. 😛

This forum rips on any Honda... 🙂

The car is old... i dont know any other car with a life cycle that has lasted this long... 😕 i dont know why people expect it to get better when very little has changed in the car.

theres a big difference between a car that doesn't change because its simply dominating the competition, and one that that lies stagnant from lack of company support.

 

[Sureshot324]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
If Honda stopped screwing around and put a small, 400-horse, 8-cylinder that revved to about 9K rpm (ala Ferrarri) plenty of people would buy a $70K Honda.

Honda has the resources and the know-how; they lack the desire.

I've owned three Hondas in my time...great cars.

It's not that they don't have the desire, it's the law that says no new car sold in Japan can have more than 300hp. That's why you never see Japanese competitors to corvette, ferrari, etc. Anyway, the NSX, like ferrari, porsche, lamborghini, etc., is not about getting the best performance/dollar ratio. It's about the overall driving experience. If you want a light, mid-engined, nice looking sports car for under 100 grand, the NSX is pretty much your only option.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: NFS4
"It costs 70 grand...and no one's gonna pay that much, for a Honda"

DING DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!! 😛

Why does no one ever say this about the corvette? I mean people sit here jacking off all day to the Z06, but it must suck sink 50k in a chevy. I mean atleast when you buy an NSX, you get acura service. With a corvette, you still gotta wait in line behind the cavalier in front of you to get service. 😛

This forum rips on any Honda... 🙂

The car is old... i dont know any other car with a life cycle that has lasted this long... 😕 i dont know why people expect it to get better when very little has changed in the car.

theres a big difference between a car that doesn't change because its simply dominating the competition, and one that that lies stagnant from lack of company support.

Lack of company support is what I would call the Supra, RX-7, 300ZX, and 3000GT... Honda is obviously keeping this as their flagship car even if it is outdated. How ironic that the most expensive of the group is still being produced. I suppose Honda wants people to see that they will always have a performance-oriented segment in their lineup even if it isnt making any profit. To some people that matters a lot and to others not.

 

[BCYL]

Why are you guys comparing the numbers between the z06 and the nsx? The nsx came out in the early 90's, 10 years before the z06... of course the z06 would be faster and has better performance! And even so, the z06 and nsx numbers are pretty close, which i think is saying a lot about the nsx...