Oh please.
Jaywalking is illegal and equally as stupid. Going 2 miles over the speed limit is illegal and probably more dangerous then hitting a joint before dinner.
Are you going to salute me if I go around calling the cops everytime I see someone doing something illegal? Are you going to file a lawsuit against me if I sell you a cup of coffee and you spill it on your lap? How about a person who is intoxicated going from one bar to another? They are drunk in public and even if they have a designated driver for later that night, it's still illegal.
Some hero.
Laws are laws, and should be upheld - yes.
However, this person was not causing harm to anyone else nor was there much likelyhood of him doing so. Calling the cops on him, having him arrested, having to deal with the legal system, spend lots of money, etc is just plain absurd in my humble opinion.
There is a time and a place to be a whistle blower. This was not one of them. And if you think this guy should be the next GI Joe action figure for "doing the right thing" - wow.
Just my .02.
You said: "2 guys sitting in a truck" out in the parking lot; that is very different then two druggies smoking crack on the front steps of your restaurant.
And I'm very aware of the "broken windows" theory. This is a very poor example to try and use that. Wouldn't a simple: "Excuse me guys, can you please take that elsewhere?" have worked? If they refused, THEN called the cops?
If a 10 year old kid is skateboarding in your driveway and making your "fine house" lose some of it's appeal, are you going to call the cops on him too? Or would you ask him to nicely go elsewhere first? How about your neighbors playing loud music? Call the cops right away even if they didn't realize they were disturbing you, or your house?
There was no danger, there was no intentional harm directed at any individual or your restaurant and there was NO effort to resolve the "problem" before the police were called in.
This wasn't a repeat offender, you make no mention that he was doing anything intentionally to cause anyone harm or cause your 'fine restaurant' to lose some of it's appeal. Instead of simply asking him to go elsewhere, you called the cops on him and came on an internet message board to sing the tail of your exploits.
I see no reason to salute you.
Once again, my .02
TO everyone that is saying all this crap about oh pot is harmless this and that.
The guy had an open container in his car and was smoking pot.
My brother was paralyzed by someone who thought pot was harmless too.
Doing anything in your vehicle or on someone elses property makes it society's business - keep it at home pot heads.
The guy had an open container in his car and was smoking pot.
My brother was paralyzed by someone who thought pot was harmless too.
Doing anything in your vehicle or on someone elses property makes it society's business - keep it at home pot heads.
So do you call the police EVERY time you see any crime? I agree there CAN be a snowball affect, but come on - that's absurd. By that logic I should have called the police 20 times on my way to work today. And I see at least 5 people a day on my commute panhandling - should I call the police on all of them? Please...
Wow at least you didnt stoop as low as thinking to mention traffic infractions JESUS.
OH great ask them to go elsewhere now that they are INTOXICATED!!!!!!!!!!!1
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I'll soon be the police, so I'll take care of it myself. Of course I don't call the police every time I see something illegal, but if I saw illegal drug use that's a different story. We can debate back and forth about the pros and cons of decriminalization of marijuana, but that won't get us anywhere. The current law says it's illegal, so I'll enforce it as such.
Man i just tell you guys that some guy on a "burn ride" paralyzed my brother and you post that he should have gone on one instead.....
GAH
GAH
Please show me where he mentioned that the guy was "INTOXICATED!!!!!!!!!1" or in any way acting in a dangerous manner. Many fine restaurants have either some type of security, doorman, bouncer or designated person to handle any potential conflicts.
And please explain how I am stooping low. I am simply stating that IN MY OPINION someone driving 65 miles an hour in a 35 zone is MORE DANGEROUS to society then someone who hits a joint before dinner.
It's been a while since I turned on the news to hear "Guy smokes joint, goes into restaurant and blows away 10 people."
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They won't have a good answer for that, just bullsh*t excuses or statistical nonsense :disgust: I'm very sorry to hear about what happened to your bro, hope he's doing as good as can be
Lost one of my best and lifelong friends and his wife to a drunk driver and have no compassion or tolerance for people who drive under the influence of any mind altering substance :| You want to smoke at home, I'll sign the petition/vote for the law.
bradruth
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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
They won't have a good answer for that, just bullsh*t excuses or statistical nonsense :disgust: I'm very sorry to hear about what happened to your bro, hope he's doing as good as can be
"You wanna go to jail or you wanna go home?"
And I can pretty much guarantee you, that when you do become a member of the police force - you WON'T be able to take care of it all yourself. There is simply too much crime. You will choose between the greater of the evils (at least I hope). Are you going to arrest several thousand people by yourself at a rock concert when they all light up? No, you aren't.. but hopefully you WOULD pull over the 1 or 2 of them that couldn't drive safely on their way home for whatever reason.
I don't do pot, nor do I condone it. I personally don't care if people do it in a safe manner. And no, I do not want people doing it out in public. I think what the guy in the car did WAS wrong. I just think calling the cops on him is pretty lame, and especially bragging about it.
I am in complete agreement.
I don't understand why anybody would salute a "hall monitor" type of person. There was no danger and zero need for police.
BTW, I saw an old lady jaywalk and then spit on the sidewalk so I performed a citizen's arrrest on her and am waiting for the police to come take her to jail. I can't wait for all the praise and salutes I will receive here.
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And? That doesn't mean he was intoxicated, nor that he was drinking and driving.
Have you ever been to a football game and drank a beer in the car while tailgating before the game? Have you never gone out with your friends to a club and mixed a 50/50 Rum & Coke in a plastic coke bottle and drank it real fast in the car before you went into the bars so you didn't have to pay $9 a drink?
I don't condone any substance + driving, please don't take it that way.
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You're right--there is no way I'll be able to take care of everything myself, but if someone is dumb enough to light up a J in public he's going to be punished for his stupity. Go do that stuff at home where noone can see. Even if you don't have the time to process him at least take his stash and destroy it (as an officer, I'm saying). Since they were in a vehicle the effects could end up costing someone else when they get out on the road.
I don't think he was really bragging about it, but I do respect him for his decision to call the police. You feel one way and I feel another...and that's fine with me.
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