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stev0

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Originally posted by: lirion
What's the matter with you people? The guy was smoking pot in a motor vehicle. When he got done smoking pot he was going to drive away impaired. The core issue here isn't what anybody thinks about pot as a recreational drug as he wasn't in his home where he wouldn't be a danger to anybody. He was in a public place, in a motor vehicle, smoking pot, and drinking. Are people really that dense that they can't (or won't) see the difference between smoking pot and smoking pot in a car? Jesus Christ:|

I was talking to my boss on the 3rd floor of my work (a restaurant) when we got a call that there was a guy smokin pot in the parking lot. Called the police and looked out the window. Sure enough we saw 2 guys sitting in a truck and i saw the one putting a pipe and a little bag away. The guys got out and came into the bar, so I waited outside for the police and told him what I saw. He went in the bar, pulled the guy out and cuffed him. Sure enough it was pot, and the guy had an open container in his car too.

they wern't going to drive anywhere, they were going into the bar.

read, then post.. it tends to work better that way.

 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: ProUser
Originally posted by: lirion
What's the matter with you people? The guy was smoking pot in a motor vehicle. When he got done smoking pot he was going to drive away impaired. The core issue here isn't what anybody thinks about pot as a recreational drug as he wasn't in his home where he wouldn't be a danger to anybody. He was in a public place, in a motor vehicle, smoking pot, and drinking. Are people really that dense that they can't (or won't) see the difference between smoking pot and smoking pot in a car? Jesus Christ:|

I would you a similar question:

Are you that dense that you can't consider/take into fact the following:

1. The original poster said he called the police because he was 'tainting' the appeal of his restaurant, NOT because of any concern for public safety.
2. The person may have been smoking in his car, planning on WALKING somewhere for the rest of the evening.

I agree if the intention was to get high, and then drive - then bust him. But just because you smoke pot in a car does NOT mean you are going to then drive the car.

The whole point of this thread was not over the concern for the public. If it had been, I think you would see different responses.


Hi.

1. Semantics. The guy was 'tainting' the appeal of his restaurant, and posing a danger to the public. So what's the problem?
2. Yeah right. Keep telling yourself that.


 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: lirion
What's the matter with you people? The guy was smoking pot in a motor vehicle. When he got done smoking pot he was going to drive away impaired. The core issue here isn't what anybody thinks about pot as a recreational drug as he wasn't in his home where he wouldn't be a danger to anybody. He was in a public place, in a motor vehicle, smoking pot, and drinking. Are people really that dense that they can't (or won't) see the difference between smoking pot and smoking pot in a car? Jesus Christ:|

I was talking to my boss on the 3rd floor of my work (a restaurant) when we got a call that there was a guy smokin pot in the parking lot. Called the police and looked out the window. Sure enough we saw 2 guys sitting in a truck and i saw the one putting a pipe and a little bag away. The guys got out and came into the bar, so I waited outside for the police and told him what I saw. He went in the bar, pulled the guy out and cuffed him. Sure enough it was pot, and the guy had an open container in his car too.

they wern't going to drive anywhere, they were going into the bar.

read, then post.. it tends to work better that way.


Listen to yourself. They had already been smoking pot, and drinking. When they got done, they went into the bar to drink some more. And then?
 

JoeKing

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you did the right thing, they were dumbasses for doing that in public..........on the other hand your restaurant probably lost a lot of munchy buisniess from those guys ;)
 

ProUser

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Originally posted by: lirion
Originally posted by: ProUser
Originally posted by: lirion
What's the matter with you people? The guy was smoking pot in a motor vehicle. When he got done smoking pot he was going to drive away impaired. The core issue here isn't what anybody thinks about pot as a recreational drug as he wasn't in his home where he wouldn't be a danger to anybody. He was in a public place, in a motor vehicle, smoking pot, and drinking. Are people really that dense that they can't (or won't) see the difference between smoking pot and smoking pot in a car? Jesus Christ:|

I would you a similar question:

Are you that dense that you can't consider/take into fact the following:

1. The original poster said he called the police because he was 'tainting' the appeal of his restaurant, NOT because of any concern for public safety.
2. The person may have been smoking in his car, planning on WALKING somewhere for the rest of the evening.

I agree if the intention was to get high, and then drive - then bust him. But just because you smoke pot in a car does NOT mean you are going to then drive the car.

The whole point of this thread was not over the concern for the public. If it had been, I think you would see different responses.


Hi.

1. Semantics. The guy was 'tainting' the appeal of his restaurant, and posing a danger to the public. So what's the problem?
2. Yeah right. Keep telling yourself that.

In regards to #1:

The original poster had no concern for the danger to the public. He did not call the police because he was concerned - that was my problem.

In regards to #2:

I do it all the time (with alcohol). Most of my friends do it as well. I'm not telling myself that, I'm DOING that. Good lord, if you've ever gone to college it's a way of life.

Let me walk you through it, it's pretty simple:

Most people get liquored up before you go out, except for the driver. Right before you go into the bars, clubs. Everyone downs another drink in the car to save money.

or here is another example:

Sometimes I work late, and have to meet up with all my friends at the bars. I don't drink and drive, so I'll mix a very strong drink and put it in a pepsi bottle. Drive to the bar, go park in the parking lot and down the drink real fast. Go inside to the bars, and either walk to a friends house afterwards or get a ride home.


Is that a little more understandable? How about football games. You know all those people drinking in the parking lot... THEY AREN'T DRIVING HOME FOR HOURS LATER!

Open your eyes...
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: lirion
Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: lirion
What's the matter with you people? The guy was smoking pot in a motor vehicle. When he got done smoking pot he was going to drive away impaired. The core issue here isn't what anybody thinks about pot as a recreational drug as he wasn't in his home where he wouldn't be a danger to anybody. He was in a public place, in a motor vehicle, smoking pot, and drinking. Are people really that dense that they can't (or won't) see the difference between smoking pot and smoking pot in a car? Jesus Christ:|

I was talking to my boss on the 3rd floor of my work (a restaurant) when we got a call that there was a guy smokin pot in the parking lot. Called the police and looked out the window. Sure enough we saw 2 guys sitting in a truck and i saw the one putting a pipe and a little bag away. The guys got out and came into the bar, so I waited outside for the police and told him what I saw. He went in the bar, pulled the guy out and cuffed him. Sure enough it was pot, and the guy had an open container in his car too.

they wern't going to drive anywhere, they were going into the bar.

read, then post.. it tends to work better that way.


Listen to yourself. They had already been smoking pot, and drinking. When they got done, they went into the bar to drink some more. And then?

they were going to walk to another bar... and have more drinks? you cant automatically assume that they were going to drive anywhere. how do you know they were even going to drink in said bar? maybe there was a sporting event that they planned on watching in the bar. you don't know, neither do i, but you can't make an assumption like that.

with that aside, this thread had nothing to do with them driving intoxicated, as per the origional post, but that they were projecting a bad image towards the resturant becuase they were smoking in the parking lot.
 

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Screw you man, smoking bowls and driving to get some munchies is a way of life. Yes, they could have been more covert, but once they put the stuff away and come into your place of business, they're likely to be better customers, not worse.

Some friends of mine actually engineered a THC vaporizer that fits in a paper coke/pepsi cup with a lid (like what you'd get at a fast food restaurant). You push a button on the bottom to start the heating mechanism and "sip" from the straw. You can take it out in public (or to class, heh) and it just looks like you're enjoying a refreshing beverage... although, damn, that fvcker gets hot if you hold it in the wrong spot.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Sifl
mind your own business, pot isn't that bad.

Yes, having several druggies in front of buisness looks good.

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
jack@ss

so you got a man arrested for doing absolutely nothing wrong but wanting to spend money at your establishment. great.

Its his property, he can do what the hell he wants.

Originally posted by: waylman
Originally posted by: TallBill
I was talking to my boss on the 3rd floor of my work (a restaurant) when we got a call that there was a guy smokin pot in the parking lot. Called the police and looked out the window. Sure enough we saw 2 guys sitting in a truck and i saw the one putting a pipe and a little bag away. The guys got out and came into the bar, so I waited outside for the police and told him what I saw. He went in the bar, pulled the guy out and cuffed him. Sure enough it was pot, and the guy had an open container in his car too.


Now, for those of you that say "mind your own business, pot isn't that bad", i agree. But, we dont want crime happening at our place of work.

So they were sitting in their truck and smoking? Not bothering anyone else? Maybe if they were out in the open I could see this being a problem, but it seems to me it was no big deal. And, it's not like they were smoking crack. It's POT for christ's sake! Cigarettes are more harmful!!! To those that are still stuck in the dark ages and think that pot is evil, and "for losers", it's time to wake up. You are brainwashed by what America wants you to believe.

Pot is a Gateway drug. Show evidence that shows smoking weed is less harmfull than tobacco. Smoking weed is carcinogenic.

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Skoorb, pot wears off in like 2 hours..

Depends how much you smoke or eat.

Originally posted by: NorthRiver
The sad thing is he has to post on the internet that he did it.



Wow, good job dude, you are teh hero
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He is getting rid of scum. What have done that is so great d1psh1t?

Originally posted by: Maleficus
Way to cause trouble for a guy who did absolutely no harm to anyone.

Smoking weed is carcinogenic.

Originally posted by: ProUser
Sorry, but I think that was lame.

Someone drunk getting in the car - yes. Someone flashing a weapon, or acting dangerously - yes. But for hitting a joint before going into a restaurant? Please...

Someone needs to go take a 9th Grade Health Class. I am sure they want that type in their 5 Story restaurant.

Originally posted by: ProUser
Originally posted by: dtyn
Originally posted by: ProUser
Sorry, but I think that was lame.

Someone drunk getting in the car - yes. Someone flashing a weapon, or acting dangerously - yes. But for hitting a joint before going into a restaurant? Please...

Lame or not, smoking pot is illegal. Smoking pot in public is stupid. TallBill did the right thing, and I salute him, even if he's an MP.

Oh please.

Jaywalking is illegal and equally as stupid. Going 2 miles over the speed limit is illegal and probably more dangerous then hitting a joint before dinner.

Are you going to salute me if I go around calling the cops everytime I see someone doing something illegal? Are you going to file a lawsuit against me if I sell you a cup of coffee and you spill it on your lap? How about a person who is intoxicated going from one bar to another? They are drunk in public and even if they have a designated driver for later that night, it's still illegal.

Some hero.

Laws are laws, and should be upheld - yes.

However, this person was not causing harm to anyone else nor was there much likelyhood of him doing so. Calling the cops on him, having him arrested, having to deal with the legal system, spend lots of money, etc is just plain absurd in my humble opinion.

There is a time and a place to be a whistle blower. This was not one of them. And if you think this guy should be the next GI Joe action figure for "doing the right thing" - wow.

Just my .02.

Smoking weed is carcinogenic. He was hurting himself and others.

Originally posted by: Kango
Screw you man, smoking bowls and driving to get some munchies is a way of life. Yes, they could have been more covert, but once they put the stuff away and come into your place of business, they're likely to be better customers, not worse.

Some friends of mine actually engineered a THC vaporizer that fits in a paper coke/pepsi cup with a lid (like what you'd get at a fast food restaurant). You push a button on the bottom to start the heating mechanism and "sip" from the straw. You can take it out in public (or to class, heh) and it just looks like you're enjoying a refreshing beverage... although, damn, that fvcker gets hot if you hold it in the wrong spot.

Great, you had to post this you fscking stoner? Wow, good for you! You need drugs to stay happy! I hope you get hit by a driver who's stoned.




 

Kango

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Originally posted by: Kango
Screw you man, smoking bowls and driving to get some munchies is a way of life. Yes, they could have been more covert, but once they put the stuff away and come into your place of business, they're likely to be better customers, not worse.

Some friends of mine actually engineered a THC vaporizer that fits in a paper coke/pepsi cup with a lid (like what you'd get at a fast food restaurant). You push a button on the bottom to start the heating mechanism and "sip" from the straw. You can take it out in public (or to class, heh) and it just looks like you're enjoying a refreshing beverage... although, damn, that fvcker gets hot if you hold it in the wrong spot.

Great, you had to post this you fscking stoner? Wow, good for you! You need drugs to stay happy! I hope you get hit by a driver who's stoned.

See, I post something like this and then people like you come out of the woodwork. I'm far from a stoner, but I'm willing to admit that drugs aren't the be-all and end-all of bad things in this world. Too many people get a bug up their @$$ about taboo things like drugs, gay marriage, abortion, or firearms. People need to CHILL OUT and mind their own business... let other people do what they gotta do.

There are scumbag stoners who have nothing going for them in their life. There are also good people with good jobs who contribute a lot to society who smoke weed every day. Not to mention plenty of people in between. There's a broad spectrum of users, and the fact that you feel like stereotyping them all as worthless jackasses is more than ignorant on your part.

I don't wish death or injury on anyone, not even people like you. Yet you're quick to hope for me to get hit by a stoned driver.

:disgust:
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Kango
Originally posted by: Kango
Screw you man, smoking bowls and driving to get some munchies is a way of life. Yes, they could have been more covert, but once they put the stuff away and come into your place of business, they're likely to be better customers, not worse.

Some friends of mine actually engineered a THC vaporizer that fits in a paper coke/pepsi cup with a lid (like what you'd get at a fast food restaurant). You push a button on the bottom to start the heating mechanism and "sip" from the straw. You can take it out in public (or to class, heh) and it just looks like you're enjoying a refreshing beverage... although, damn, that fvcker gets hot if you hold it in the wrong spot.

Great, you had to post this you fscking stoner? Wow, good for you! You need drugs to stay happy! I hope you get hit by a driver who's stoned.

See, I post something like this and then people like you come out of the woodwork. I'm far from a stoner, but I'm willing to admit that drugs aren't the be-all and end-all of bad things in this world. Too many people get a bug up their @$$ about taboo things like drugs, gay marriage, abortion, or firearms. People need to CHILL OUT and mind their own business... let other people do what they gotta do.

There are scumbag stoners who have nothing going for them in their life. There are also good people with good jobs who contribute a lot to society who smoke weed every day. Not to mention plenty of people in between. There's a broad spectrum of users, and the fact that you feel like stereotyping them all as worthless jackasses is more than ignorant on your part.

I don't wish death or injury on anyone, not even people like you. Yet you're quick to hope for me to get hit by a stoned driver.

:disgust:

Yea, sure whatever you say. I've done something in mylife that I am amshamed of, which is why I have so much anger towards certain types of people.
 

ProUser

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: Kango
Originally posted by: Kango
Screw you man, smoking bowls and driving to get some munchies is a way of life. Yes, they could have been more covert, but once they put the stuff away and come into your place of business, they're likely to be better customers, not worse.

Some friends of mine actually engineered a THC vaporizer that fits in a paper coke/pepsi cup with a lid (like what you'd get at a fast food restaurant). You push a button on the bottom to start the heating mechanism and "sip" from the straw. You can take it out in public (or to class, heh) and it just looks like you're enjoying a refreshing beverage... although, damn, that fvcker gets hot if you hold it in the wrong spot.

Great, you had to post this you fscking stoner? Wow, good for you! You need drugs to stay happy! I hope you get hit by a driver who's stoned.

See, I post something like this and then people like you come out of the woodwork. I'm far from a stoner, but I'm willing to admit that drugs aren't the be-all and end-all of bad things in this world. Too many people get a bug up their @$$ about taboo things like drugs, gay marriage, abortion, or firearms. People need to CHILL OUT and mind their own business... let other people do what they gotta do.

There are scumbag stoners who have nothing going for them in their life. There are also good people with good jobs who contribute a lot to society who smoke weed every day. Not to mention plenty of people in between. There's a broad spectrum of users, and the fact that you feel like stereotyping them all as worthless jackasses is more than ignorant on your part.

I don't wish death or injury on anyone, not even people like you. Yet you're quick to hope for me to get hit by a stoned driver.

:disgust:

Yea, sure whatever you say. I've done something in mylife that I am amshamed of, which is why I have so much anger towards certain types of people.

>> Live in Fargo, North Dakota or surrounding area? Look at Fargogaming for the next local LAN Party!

I'd be angry too if I lived in Fargo... :) j/k

Seriously man, this was a good debate. No need to start wishing harm on people... sheesh...

 

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All I can say is that what comes around goes around. I hope that when the orig poster goes 1 mile above the speed limit, the cop busts his butt for speeding lol
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: TranceNation
All I can say is that what comes around goes around. I hope that when the orig poster goes 1 mile above the speed limit, the cop busts his butt for speeding lol

Rules are rules, you follow them.
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: ProUser
I do it all the time (with alcohol). Most of my friends do it as well. I'm not telling myself that, I'm DOING that. Good lord, if you've ever gone to college it's a way of life.

I'm a college sophomore and I've never taken a drink. It's not my way of life.
 

ProUser

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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: ProUser
I do it all the time (with alcohol). Most of my friends do it as well. I'm not telling myself that, I'm DOING that. Good lord, if you've ever gone to college it's a way of life.

I'm a college sophomore and I've never taken a drink. It's not my way of life.


Congratulations. I'm out of cookies. Are you a virgin too? What else would you like to tell me about your life?

My point was generally college students like to drink and party; drinking before you go out to the bars is a common occurance.

There are always exceptions.
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: ProUser
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: ProUser
I do it all the time (with alcohol). Most of my friends do it as well. I'm not telling myself that, I'm DOING that. Good lord, if you've ever gone to college it's a way of life.

I'm a college sophomore and I've never taken a drink. It's not my way of life.


Congratulations. I'm out of cookies. Are you a virgin too? What else would you like to tell me about your life?

My point was generally college students like to drink and party; drinking before you go out to the bars is a common occurance.

There are always exceptions.

What I'm saying is that you shouldn't rationalize your behavior just because a lot of other people do it. Humans aren't lemmings.
 

AAjax

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Originally posted by: TallBill
ps - im a military police officer..

so you got a man arrested for doing absolutely nothing wrong but wanting to spend money at your establishment. great.

Eh, he was a moron for smoking pot and having an open container out in plain view in public.

At the very least they could have found a less-public place. Their bad for being obvious.
 

ProUser

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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: ProUser
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: ProUser
I do it all the time (with alcohol). Most of my friends do it as well. I'm not telling myself that, I'm DOING that. Good lord, if you've ever gone to college it's a way of life.

I'm a college sophomore and I've never taken a drink. It's not my way of life.


Congratulations. I'm out of cookies. Are you a virgin too? What else would you like to tell me about your life?

My point was generally college students like to drink and party; drinking before you go out to the bars is a common occurance.

There are always exceptions.

What I'm saying is that you shouldn't rationalize your behavior just because a lot of other people do it. Humans aren't lemmings.


I agree with you, but I don't think I was rationalizing their behavior. I was simply trying to make the point that just because they were in a car, and drinking does not mean their intention was to then immediately drive the car. That possibility seems to be unimagionable to several of the posters.
 

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Originally posted by: Sifl
mind your own business, pot isn't that bad.


I guess the girl getting raped in the parking lot and the man getting murdered in the alley wouldn't be his business either..............

When does it become his business???
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: akodi
pot is for losers...serious
Like people who down 4 or 5 cocktails at Happy Hour aren't? Does Tallbill call the Police when someone getts buzzed at the Restaurant bar and then gets into his car and drives away?

So true. I think the open container is much more of a concern that the pot smoking in this case. I wonder if people call the cops on someone who urinates outside their commercial establishment these days.


BTW, all pot smokers are bad people. They are all violent and they don't have a good cell in their bodies. They are fundamentally evil and a burden to society (especially the ones who have held offices as high as the highest possible public office in the nation). Despite the fact that pot makes you more cautious in nature during its activity period and a slower driver these people cause accidents all over the place. All pot smokers are stupid and of substandard intelligence (especially the ones at Harvard) and they should all just drop down and die.
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: sxr7171
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: akodi
pot is for losers...serious
Like people who down 4 or 5 cocktails at Happy Hour aren't? Does Tallbill call the Police when someone getts buzzed at the Restaurant bar and then gets into his car and drives away?

So true. I think the open container is much more of a concern that the pot smoking in this case. I wonder if people call the cops on someone who urinates outside their commercial establishment these days.

Hah, when I was on my last ride-a-long I spotted a guy taking a leak outside a bar, so we went over and embarrassed him. We took his ID and had him run for warrants, but he came back clean so we let him go. :D
 

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I would of told the guys I saw them, and not to do that in the parking lot again. I doubt I would of called the cops though, but I'm not saying you did the wrong thing.