Hackintosh 10.5.5 Retail Rig - Starting at $305

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I'm more interested on what makes you think 10.5.7 is shipping with GT200 drivers. Because the developer seeds have not. I'm expecting that Apple will ship a graphics update in May that adds them.

Friend of a dev is running GTX260 on 10.5.7, that's all I know Again my local buddy has a GTX260, and assuming it does in fact come with drivers for the 200's, I'll hop on over and test it for ya!

I'm going to have to call shenanigans on your friend. NVIDIA finally put up the FX 4800 for Mac page today. In the Drivers & Downloads section, it specifically mentions requiring 10.5.7 and a drivers to be installed, through a driver upgrade CD included with the card.

I don't think the drivers are going to be shipping with the 10.5.7 update.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: akatsuki

I haven't had any problems with sound as of yet, so I may just get to seeing if there is a good ACL889A solution out there before buying anything. This thread seems to have some suggested solutions and also seems to offer the potential of getting all the audio ports on the back of the UD3P working correctly.

Been paging through the mentioned thread, and it seems very promising - e.g. the console error is apparently related to the digital output setting. Seems like it should be possible to dump the USB sound device and get the ALC889a working. I will do some experimenting and report back.

Awesome, sounds great!

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: akatsuki

I haven't had any problems with sound as of yet, so I may just get to seeing if there is a good ACL889A solution out there before buying anything. This thread seems to have some suggested solutions and also seems to offer the potential of getting all the audio ports on the back of the UD3P working correctly.

Been paging through the mentioned thread, and it seems very promising - e.g. the console error is apparently related to the digital output setting. Seems like it should be possible to dump the USB sound device and get the ALC889a working. I will do some experimenting and report back.

Awesome, sounds great!

What exactly is wrong with the 889a right now? It's what I have on my Hack (GA-P35-DS3R) and it works fine (Stereo Out and Mic In, at least) after using the AppleHDAPatcher along with a codec dump.

 

[akatsuki]

Awesome, sounds great!

What exactly is wrong with the 889a right now? It's what I have on my Hack (GA-P35-DS3R) and it works fine (Stereo Out and Mic In, at least) after using the AppleHDAPatcher along with a codec dump.[/quote]

Open your console and look at all messages... are you getting something similar to this:

4/22/09 Apr 22 | 11:59: 12 AM kernel Sound assertion "0 != result" failed in "/SourceCache/AppleHDA/AppleHDA-162.1.37/AppleHDA/AppleHDADriver.cpp" at line 2742 goto handler


This applies more to the install method being discussed in this thread than using the codec dump method. May give that a try as well.

 

[ViRGE]

I'm not seeing any sound related messages in my console. AFAIK it's working fine.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I'm not seeing any sound related messages in my console. AFAIK it's working fine.

It does work fine. There's just some underlying system mumbo-jumbo that exists. To the end user, the only thing they really see is an extra minute or two added to shutdown time.

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I would give my left *cough* for X-Fi support on the Mac.

Hey, quit whining - at least we're getting GT200/4000-series support in coming months

Shouldn't this mean HDMI audio support? Of course, that doesn't help on the input side.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: s44

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: ViRGE
I would give my left *cough* for X-Fi support on the Mac.

Hey, quit whining - at least we're getting GT200/4000-series support in coming months

Shouldn't this mean HDMI audio support? Of course, that doesn't help on the input side.

I'd imagine this would only work if you hooked up an SDPIF cable from the motherboard to the card. Maybe

 

[s44]

No, HD4000 series has built in HDMI codec (incl. full surround PCM).

But heck, so does the 9400M!

 

[Gymnae]

Originally posted by: mosslack
Been playing with my new USB HD switch (so I can backup one system while using the other) and I decided to use the SD Smart Update option instead of the default erase and copy. The main reason was to see if the backup would still be bootable once the copy operation was complete and I'm happy to report that it is. Also found that it is no longer necessary to use the BIOS options to boot with the USB HD as the new Chameleon 2.0 picks up on the fact that there are more boot options and displays those as well as the ones on the internal HD. Just make sure the drive with Chameleon 2.0 is first in the boot priority BIOS setting and you should be all set to boot into whichever OS you desire. Very cool.

As long as it not Windows XP 32Bit on a MBR Disk next to the GUID OS X HD - then it reportedly won't work

 

[mosslack]

Originally posted by: Gymnae

Originally posted by: mosslack
Been playing with my new USB HD switch (so I can backup one system while using the other) and I decided to use the SD Smart Update option instead of the default erase and copy. The main reason was to see if the backup would still be bootable once the copy operation was complete and I'm happy to report that it is. Also found that it is no longer necessary to use the BIOS options to boot with the USB HD as the new Chameleon 2.0 picks up on the fact that there are more boot options and displays those as well as the ones on the internal HD. Just make sure the drive with Chameleon 2.0 is first in the boot priority BIOS setting and you should be all set to boot into whichever OS you desire. Very cool.

As long as it not Windows XP 32Bit on a MBR Disk next to the GUID OS X HD - then it reportedly won't work

Have to dig out XP and give that a try. I've used MBR based boot managers before with GPT disks and there was confusion there as well. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: s44
No, HD4000 series has built in HDMI codec (incl. full surround PCM).

But heck, so does the 9400M!

Well, the issue is that there aren't any real Macs that have built-in audio with the video output (since none have native HDMI output), and even if they did, they'd have to have the same audio hardware in order for the drivers to work. So what it really comes down to is simply drivers. That's what I said that an HDMI video card with an internal SPDIF hookup might work, because if you can get onboard digital audio working (like on the UD3P), then you might be able to get the pin headers on the motherboard working, then you could connect the SPDIF cable to the video card and run audio output through HDMI that way. Or I think some cards can piggy back that on via DVI with an HDMI adapter, but I'm not 100% sure. Either way, it'd be a nice solution to have

 

[Kaido]

Basic Office Hack Recipe:

Atom 330 board ($87)
Mini-ITX case ($50)
2GB RAM ($20)
80GB Hard Drive ($34)
DVD Burner ($25)

Total: $215

Is it worth it? Eh...for $75 more you can build a better hack with a 2.5ghz dual-core processor that can actually handle 1080p and stuff. But if you need a cheap hack, or you have some spare parts lying around and just need the motherboard or something, or want to build a file server or somesuch, it's a pretty nice little rig.

 

[akatsuki]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: akatsuki

I haven't had any problems with sound as of yet, so I may just get to seeing if there is a good ACL889A solution out there before buying anything. This thread seems to have some suggested solutions and also seems to offer the potential of getting all the audio ports on the back of the UD3P working correctly.

Been paging through the mentioned thread, and it seems very promising - e.g. the console error is apparently related to the digital output setting. Seems like it should be possible to dump the USB sound device and get the ALC889a working. I will do some experimenting and report back.

Awesome, sounds great!

Looks like it is a bit beyond my crap kext hacking skills. Apparently the error results from the digital input nodeID not being entered. Actually looks like if someone with a lot more skills attacked the problem the UD3P audio could be fully functional without errors cluttering up the console.

@kaido - did you try booting with a shuffle plugged in? I am curious to see what is going on there. I strongly suspect is is something to do with AppleUSBEHCI which freezes up, in particular with the Mass Storage Interface. I am going to try a couple of boots with different mass storage devices to see if it happens with them.

UPDATE: Tried with my Kindle plugged in and it booted right up.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: akatsuki

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: akatsuki

I haven't had any problems with sound as of yet, so I may just get to seeing if there is a good ACL889A solution out there before buying anything. This thread seems to have some suggested solutions and also seems to offer the potential of getting all the audio ports on the back of the UD3P working correctly.

Been paging through the mentioned thread, and it seems very promising - e.g. the console error is apparently related to the digital output setting. Seems like it should be possible to dump the USB sound device and get the ALC889a working. I will do some experimenting and report back.

Awesome, sounds great!

Looks like it is a bit beyond my crap kext hacking skills. Apparently the error results from the digital input nodeID not being entered. Actually looks like if someone with a lot more skills attacked the problem the UD3P audio could be fully functional without errors cluttering up the console.

@kaido - did you try booting with a shuffle plugged in? I am curious to see what is going on there. I strongly suspect is is something to do with AppleUSBEHCI which freezes up, in particular with the Mass Storage Interface. I am going to try a couple of boots with different mass storage devices to see if it happens with them.

UPDATE: Tried with my Kindle plugged in and it booted right up.

Confirmed - black screens @ boot with my 2nd-gen iPod Shuffle. Odd. Going over logs now.

Edit: I only use my Shuffle for working out, so the only time it's ever plugged into my comp is when I'm transferring music to it, otherwise it just charges in the other room next to my exercise bike.

 

[akatsuki]

Edit: I only use my Shuffle for working out, so the only time it's ever plugged into my comp is when I'm transferring music to it, otherwise it just charges in the other room next to my exercise bike.

Yeah, it isn't all that big of a deal, just weird. I wonder if it happens with Nanos or other iPods. I know it doesn't with my iPhone. I just usually leave it plugged into the computer for convenience before I go jogging or the gym...

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: akatsuki

Edit: I only use my Shuffle for working out, so the only time it's ever plugged into my comp is when I'm transferring music to it, otherwise it just charges in the other room next to my exercise bike.

Yeah, it isn't all that big of a deal, just weird. I wonder if it happens with Nanos or other iPods. I know it doesn't with my iPhone. I just usually leave it plugged into the computer for convenience before I go jogging or the gym...

I'll try it with a Nano later today when it's available.

Not really seeing anything in the logs - it seems to load up the login window and whatnot just fine, it just takes forever for the display to come on. Very odd. Wonder if it happens on real Macs?

 

[akatsuki]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: akatsuki

Edit: I only use my Shuffle for working out, so the only time it's ever plugged into my comp is when I'm transferring music to it, otherwise it just charges in the other room next to my exercise bike.

Yeah, it isn't all that big of a deal, just weird. I wonder if it happens with Nanos or other iPods. I know it doesn't with my iPhone. I just usually leave it plugged into the computer for convenience before I go jogging or the gym...

I'll try it with a Nano later today when it's available.

Not really seeing anything in the logs - it seems to load up the login window and whatnot just fine, it just takes forever for the display to come on. Very odd. Wonder if it happens on real Macs?

Doesn't happen on my Macbook Pro. Part of my logs seem to show that it is the USBEHCI:

4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 00 PM com.apple.kdcmond[53] 2009-04-22 20:06:57.304 krb5kdc[74:10b] _CFGetHostUUIDString: unable to determine UUID for host. Error: 35
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 00 PM mdworker[86] _CFGetHostUUIDString: unable to determine UUID for host. Error: 35
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 07 PM kernel USBF: 19.421 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 13 PM kernel USBF: 25.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 18 PM kernel USBF: 31.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 25 PM kernel USBF: 37.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 31 PM kernel USBF: 43.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 31 PM kextd[10] IOKitWaitQuiet() timed out waiting to write kernel symbols
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 37 PM kernel USBF: 49.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 41 PM kextd[10] writing kernel link data to /var/run/mach.sym
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 43 PM kernel USBF: 55.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 49 PM kernel USBF: 61.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: timed out waiting for IOKit to quiesce
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: Busy services :
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1 [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0 [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7 [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000 [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000/Mass Storage Interface@0 [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000/Mass Storage Interface@0/IOUSBMassStorageClass [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000/Mass Storage Interface@0/IOUSBMassStorageClass/IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceNub [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000/Mass Storage Interface@0/IOUSBMassStorageClass/IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceNub/com_apple_driver_iPodSBC [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000/Mass Storage Interface@0/IOUSBMassStorageClass/IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceNub/com_apple_driver_iPodSBC/com_apple_driver_iPodSBCNub [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000/Mass Storage Interface@0/IOUSBMassStorageClass/IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceNub/com_apple_driver_iPodSBC/com_apple_driver_iPodSBCNub/IOBlockStorageDriver [1]
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 51 PM configd[14] InterfaceNamer: MacPro3,1/AppleACPIPlatformExpert/PCI0@0/AppleACPIPCI/USBE@1D,7/AppleUSBEHCI/iPod@fd500000/Mass Storage Interface@0/IOUSBMassStorageClass/IOSCSIPeripheralDeviceNub/com_apple_driver_iPodSBC/com_apple_driver_iPodSBCNub/IOBlockStorageDriver/Apple iPod Media [1]
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:07: 55 PM kernel USBF: 67.422 AppleUSBEHCI[0x630e800]::Found a transaction which hasn't moved in 5 seconds on bus 0xfd, timing out! (Addr: 3, EP: 0)
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:11: 54 PM ntpd[44] time reset +0.525120 s
--removed endless HDA sound assertions
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:12: 03 PM /usr/libexec/hidd[55] Timeout waiting for IOKit to be quiet

4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:12: 03 PM /usr/libexec/hidd[55] IOHIDEventQueueCreate: Unable to allocate queue memory from IOHIDSystem. (0x10000003)

4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:12: 03 PM WindowServer[82] Unable to create event queue via hidd: (0xe00002bd)


4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:12: 05 PM /System/Library/CoreServices/ManagedClient.app/Contents/MacOS/ManagedClient[107] ODUEthernetAddress(): GetEthernetAddress()== 5
4/22/09 Apr 22 | 1:12: 05 PM loginwindow[51] Login Window Started Security Agent

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: akatsuki

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: akatsuki

Edit: I only use my Shuffle for working out, so the only time it's ever plugged into my comp is when I'm transferring music to it, otherwise it just charges in the other room next to my exercise bike.

Yeah, it isn't all that big of a deal, just weird. I wonder if it happens with Nanos or other iPods. I know it doesn't with my iPhone. I just usually leave it plugged into the computer for convenience before I go jogging or the gym...

I'll try it with a Nano later today when it's available.

Not really seeing anything in the logs - it seems to load up the login window and whatnot just fine, it just takes forever for the display to come on. Very odd. Wonder if it happens on real Macs?

Doesn't happen on my Macbook Pro. Part of my logs seem to show that it is the USBEHCI:

[/quote]

Hmm, found someone with the same bug on a real Mac:

http://discussions.apple.com/t...jspa?messageID=6924668

More:

http://merkdot.blogspot.com/20...ipod-shuffle-boot.html

Edit: Do you think that our Shuffles need firmware updates? One keeps popping up, but I've read that it causes major problems on the 2nd gen Shuffle.

 

[akatsuki]

Hmm, found someone with the same bug on a real Mac:

http://discussions.apple.com/t...jspa?messageID=6924668

More:

http://merkdot.blogspot.com/20...ipod-shuffle-boot.html

Good catch on that... well that is a bit of Apple dodginess - I guess that is a good sign on this install since it is behaving like it should then.

I'll have to try something else for audio to get rid of those console messages - it is just too much of a pain to try and sort out other problems with my log littered with them at 2-3x per second. Shame too, since I wanted to avoid using that adapter you had mentioned earlier, but I guess that is just how it goes.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: akatsuki

Hmm, found someone with the same bug on a real Mac:

http://discussions.apple.com/t...jspa?messageID=6924668

More:

http://merkdot.blogspot.com/20...ipod-shuffle-boot.html

Good catch on that... well that is a bit of Apple dodginess - I guess that is a good sign on this install since it is behaving like it should then.

I'll have to try something else for audio to get rid of those console messages - it is just too much of a pain to try and sort out other problems with my log littered with them at 2-3x per second. Shame too, since I wanted to avoid using that adapter you had mentioned earlier, but I guess that is just how it goes.

Yeah...I'm sure it can be done, someone just has to do it At any rate, my USB audio stick doesn't pick up system noise, so it sounds much cleaner on my headphones. My desktop speakers aren't as sensitive and I can't tell though. But meh, for $7.99...hehe.

 

[akatsuki]

Any chance anyone here can get a good codec dump of the UD3P alc889a chip? I tried both Mandriva and Ubuntu 8.10 and they apparently both read it defectively as an alc885. It is damn aggravating...

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: akatsuki
Any chance anyone here can get a good codec dump of the UD3P alc889a chip? I tried both Mandriva and Ubuntu 8.10 and they apparently both read it defectively as an alc885. It is damn aggravating...

It doesn't matter what they read it as. The name is meaningless, the only thing that matters is the pin configuration, which they get correct.

 

[akatsuki]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: akatsuki
Any chance anyone here can get a good codec dump of the UD3P alc889a chip? I tried both Mandriva and Ubuntu 8.10 and they apparently both read it defectively as an alc885. It is damn aggravating...

It doesn't matter what they read it as. The name is meaningless, the only thing that matters is the pin configuration, which they get correct.

Tried to patch using the codec dump - hosed my audio entirely... I've included the codec dump, HDA patcher and the modified kexts in this file:
http://drop.io/8riadxx

 

[ViRGE]

That's virtually identical to the codec dump for my DS3R. The only differences are a version ID and the Amp-In/Amp-Out values. I'm not sure why you'd be having problems.

And you don't need HDAEnabler, just the ALCInject and the patched AppleHDA kexts.