Ha, ha, I just saw an Army recruitment commercial.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: TriStar

Originally posted by: BigJ

Hey, Buddy, they will train you for anything you want, but when your arse gets dropped off in Afghanistan or Iraq you are going to be a grunt.

Tell me how that's not insulting (even indirectly) the intelligence of the troops that enlist, and have enlisted.

Your pomposity knows no bounds. You believe that grunts are the lowest thing on Earth? What is your problem?

Without the grunts now war would ever have been won, no enemy defeated.

I am proud of our grunts and proud to have served with them. If anything I despise the buttonpushers who sit in the rear who tell us that a position must be held.

Yeh, been there, done that.

My post went right over your head.

Either that, or you're pretending to suck at reading comprehension.

Curious, I feel the same way, like I'm being ignored by this clown.

 

[xaeniac]

This thread is pretty lame. I thank God for all the servicemen in this country. Unfortunately you are too immature to give credit when it's due. Very post imo. The military branches do give you training and many companies like to hire military retirees. The armed forces are at a low recruitment and they need some ppl to join. The point is too many ppl think like you and discourage ppl that want to join the armed forces by bad mouthing it. There are definitely advantages and disadvantages to joining the military. But remember it's not all that bad.

 

[knyghtbyte]

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte

Originally posted by: Wallydraigle

Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
to be honest, people took this way over the top, the guy was poking fun at the way the army recruitment commercial was directed........

and to be honest he is right, i work in a business that concerns advertising of a sort, and what you see is very rarely what you actually get.....lol

however, it does seem that some people cant take light hearted humour and be amused by it, or just ignore it, they have to create a different angle on it and use it as an excuse to start a fight.......

As for the US army, yes, it is a different animal from what it was back in the Vietnam and World War days, it pre-selects various recruits in to more suitable areas at an earlier stage (ie tech skills or admin or medical or whatever)........im English, but i know this as i have many friends in various services from different countries (and i dont just mean low level 'grunts' either).....

Mind you, the US Army still needs to try and keep a handle on the more trigger happy recruits it lets thru given the friendly fire us Brits suffered...hehe ;-)
(that satire btw, so dont go flaming)

How old are you? When did you serve? How long? Where? Under whom?

28, in the Rat & Parrot bar, 4 months, Harrow NW London, Judy Mckay

whoops, missed the 'when', um, 10 years ago that particular bar....heh

now i work as an advertising executive so i can speak with some authority concerning the initial posts subject, how many of those who are harping on about the army side can say that?....huh?

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: TriStar

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
TriStar, be honest. How old are you, kid?

I was sitting in my HS freshman english class when the news that JFK had been shot was announced over the loudspeakers.

We didn't have any AC in our schools back then. 😉

What day/month were you born?

You would've have to been born after November 22, because if you were born before then, it would mean that you were actually 14 when JFK was assassinated.

Wasn't the legal age to join up 18 back then? So that means you were 18 in 1968. JFK was assassinated in 1963. That's a difference of 5 years, putting you at 13.

Hence, your numbers don't add up (or just very, very barely).

He said he was in the army from 1968-1969.

 

[knyghtbyte]

Originally posted by: xaeniac
This thread is pretty lame. I thank God for all the servicemen in this country. Unfortunately you are too immature to give credit when it's due. Very post imo. The military branches do give you training and many companies like to hire military retirees. The armed forces are at a low recruitment and they need some ppl to join. The point is too many ppl think like you and discourage ppl that want to join the armed forces by bad mouthing it. There are definitely advantages and disadvantages to joining the military. But remember it's not all that bad.

joining the military has made many peoples lives worthwhile, regardless of which branch they ended up in, or whether they went to fight or not, lived or died.......those that dont get anything out of it normally quit fairly quickly........certainly if your civvie life aint working out that great its worth giving the military a shot....

My only gripe with the military is the politicians who control it........they are the ones who need to be removed....lol

Armies should be there to protect your country, occasionally that can mean acting first, but in the instance of the second Iraq war was i dont believe it was warranted, it was done to protect oil and Americas control of the world economy.......It's already been shown that the knowledge concerning possible WMD in Iraq was so ropey it had a label around it saying 'this is a bundle of rope'.........but only after the war was started....

However, the world is always turning, 2,000 years ago the Roman Empire (by sheer brute force) ruled most places, a few hundred years ago it was Britain (some force, mostly techonology), for the last part of the the 20th Century America pretty much ruled the world (by technology and money). Now is a new era, who is gonna be in control? new ways to wage war exist, ie massive cell based terrorism.....how to fight a moving enemy, always harder than a stationary one.......
Both sides will always believe their way is right, which means no one is wrong? or both are wrong? who knows, and tbh who cares, if your lucky you live as a person in the camp that is winning for that time in history.....if not, oh well, maybe u die quickly and get bought back as an ant....

time for bed 🙂

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: DAWeinG

He said he was in the army from 1968-1969.

Well I'm doing this from a youngest standpoint, because for an older fellow he seems quite immature. Assuming draft age could not have been younger than 18. There's a pretty damn good chance he was going to get drafted at the age of 18 during 'nam.

If he was actually older when he enlisted or was drafted, it means that a 56+ y.o. man is acting worse and more immature than many 14 y.o teens.

 

[Mr Smiley]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: TriStar

Originally posted by: yankeesfan
TriStar, be honest. How old are you, kid?

I was sitting in my HS freshman english class when the news that JFK had been shot was announced over the loudspeakers.

We didn't have any AC in our schools back then. 😉

What day/month were you born?

You would've have to been born after November 22, because if you were born before then, it would mean that you were actually 14 when JFK was assassinated.

Wasn't the legal age to join up 18 back then? So that means you were 18 in 1968. JFK was assassinated in 1963. That's a difference of 5 years, putting you at 13.

Hence, your numbers don't add up (or just very, very barely).

He was probably held back a couple of years... Which would account for his horrible reading comprehension.

 

[CQuinn]

Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
I guess I'm going to chime in and sorta ask why the hatred in this thread towards the OP?!? I don't see him making fun of service members. I think he's more making fun of the commercials and the sorta deception they use for recruitment. I mean...am I wrong on that?!?!?

My problem with the original post is the untruthful nature of it in the first place. Assuming I recall the same commercial that started this whole thread (and from my interpretation of it):

The noob just got out of boot...

False, it was obvious to me that the young man was on a visit back from his permanent duty station (possibly his first visit back
after being stationed there). This would have been six month to a year (at least) from when he got out of basic training and
tech school (which tacks another 6 - 9 months on from the time of his initial enlistment).

and is partaying with his old buds and is telling them how great the Army is.

Again, maybe I was watching a different commercial; but they made it a significant point of the commecial I saw that
the soldier was not talking the Army up or down in any noticable fashion.

He's all bragging how he's gonna be trained and working with computers during his enlistment.

False, IIRC his friends asked what he has been doing... as in, what is your current job (not what he is hoping to be trained for).
And he (supposedly) low plays it out of modesty or some other virtue, while we the viewers are supposed to get a glimpse of
what a thrilling and challenging job "working with computers" in the Army actually means.

So, from my point of view, TriStar doesn't appear to have seen the same commercial I saw. And perhaps it is due to differences
in experience; but I would have picked out a whole different set of problems to nit-pick in that commercial:

(Army vets may correct me where I am mistaken below, please.)

1st, the soldier shows up at his old hang-out in what appears to be his parade dress uniform. Unless he was just finishing up
a ceremony just down the street, the first thing most soldiers I've known would do is change out of their best dress into something
more comfortable (street clothes or a more regular uniform if still on duty). The dry-cleaning bills on your best duds are hardly
worth the risk of getting them dirty to see some friends, unless those friends are the ones coming to see you. Plus it just
doesn't feel as easy to move in as your everyday uniform.

2nd, don't you take your cover off when going indoors? Unless the rules were changed for berets.

3rd, nobody coming back from thier first assignment is going to say "I work with computers". His automatic, trained,
and ingrained response would at least start with "I'm an MOS25B" or "MOS74B", and then when his friends ask
what that is, to say something about working with computers.

That's a significant difference between military training philosophies now and then. The old military practice was to
train soldiers to do generally anything, and pick out specialties as the soldier aptitude and military needs required.
Now they try to find and train soldiers for a specialty as part of the assignment, and train them to generalize more
later. It costs less for overall training, and allows the militarty to better forecast deployments by what is needed in the
field, versus what additional support roles are needed.

KS, the problem is that he didn't even attempt to address the elements of the commercial, or what may be deceptive
recruiting practices inherent within.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: TriStar

Originally posted by: cyclohexane
Been where, Iraq? Tell us about it.

N00b, study U.S. history. We have been in many conflicts over the last 30 years.

This could also go under N00b (TriStar), welcome to last decade.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: TriStar

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: TriStar

Heh, I agree, nobody seems to be able to read or comprehend the written word. I shall now sit back and take the flames and arrows, as well as the outcry for my banning in Forum Issues.

Hey, Buddy, they will train you for anything you want, but when your arse gets dropped off in Afghanistan or Iraq you are going to be a grunt.

Tell me how that's not insulting (even indirectly) the intelligence of the troops that enlist, and have enlisted.

Your pomposity knows no bounds. You believe that grunts are the lowest thing on Earth? What is your problem?

Without the grunts now war would ever have been won, no enemy defeated.

I am proud of our grunts and proud to have served with them. If anything I despise the buttonpushers who sit in the rear who tell us that a position must be held.

Yeh, been there, done that.

If you had served, which I am beginning to doubt, you would know they are called REMF's. 😛

 

[EULA]

Originally posted by: M00T
Seriously... you get a LOT of socks.

Lots of free shirts too! and you don't even have to enlist for em! just keep mailing those cards back...

 

[intogamer]

this is not a war this BATTLEFIELD 2 😛

 

[EULA]

or

RED ORCHESTRA

go RO!

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: TriStar

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: TriStar

Heh, I agree, nobody seems to be able to read or comprehend the written word. I shall now sit back and take the flames and arrows, as well as the outcry for my banning in Forum Issues.

Hey, Buddy, they will train you for anything you want, but when your arse gets dropped off in Afghanistan or Iraq you are going to be a grunt.

Tell me how that's not insulting (even indirectly) the intelligence of the troops that enlist, and have enlisted.

Your pomposity knows no bounds. You believe that grunts are the lowest thing on Earth? What is your problem?

Without the grunts now war would ever have been won, no enemy defeated.

I am proud of our grunts and proud to have served with them. If anything I despise the buttonpushers who sit in the rear who tell us that a position must be held.

Yeh, been there, done that.

If you had served, which I am beginning to doubt, you would know they are called REMF's. 😛

Let me guess....Rear Echelon Muther Fv.....

 

[Otaking]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: M00T
Seriously... you get a LOT of socks.

I didn't get socks. There were supposed to be socks in my ditty bag, but there weren't. I ran out of the white gym socks I brought with me, and resorted to wearing my black socks that I had also brought. I then got stopped and screamed at by every NCO and had to explain repeatedly that my ditty bag had no socks in it, and I was waiting for a reply to my paperwork indicating that they had not supplied me with any socks. 😛

hahaha good story :laugh:

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: TriStar

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: TriStar

Heh, I agree, nobody seems to be able to read or comprehend the written word. I shall now sit back and take the flames and arrows, as well as the outcry for my banning in Forum Issues.

Hey, Buddy, they will train you for anything you want, but when your arse gets dropped off in Afghanistan or Iraq you are going to be a grunt.

Tell me how that's not insulting (even indirectly) the intelligence of the troops that enlist, and have enlisted.

Your pomposity knows no bounds. You believe that grunts are the lowest thing on Earth? What is your problem?

Without the grunts now war would ever have been won, no enemy defeated.

I am proud of our grunts and proud to have served with them. If anything I despise the buttonpushers who sit in the rear who tell us that a position must be held.

Yeh, been there, done that.

If you had served, which I am beginning to doubt, you would know they are called REMF's. 😛

Let me guess....Rear Echelon Muther Fv.....

A winner is you! :laugh:

 

[Otaking]

Some people should look at PingSpike's quote in my sig.. 😕

 

[AntiEverything]

What a bunch of arseholes in this thread. The OP has a point.

I don't know if they still do it, but when I enlisted 13 years ago they gave me a huge list of MOSes and told me to pick out a couple that sounded interesting. They then showed me a video that was supposed to show me what that MOS was like. This video showed the Fire Support Specialist driving tracked vehicles, using laser range finders and field computers to relay coordinates back to the artillery.

When I actually got out to my unit it was a bunch of guys with maps and binoculars, humping everywhere. We were lucky if there were enough HUMVEEs for everyone in the unit.

Fact is, the advertisement rarely matches the product, and I doubt it's any different in the Army even today.

 

[AntiEverything]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
If you had served, which I am beginning to doubt, you would know they are called REMF's. 😛

I've served, and never heard the term REMF. 😕

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: AntiEverything
What a bunch of arseholes in this thread. The OP has a point.

I don't know if they still do it, but when I enlisted 13 years ago they gave me a huge list of MOSes and told me to pick out a couple that sounded interesting. They then showed me a video that was supposed to show me what that MOS was like. This video showed the Fire Support Specialist driving tracked vehicles, using laser range finders and field computers to relay coordinates back to the artillery.

When I actually got out to my unit it was a bunch of guys with maps and binoculars, humping everywhere. We were lucky if there were enough HUMVEEs for everyone in the unit.

Fact is, the advertisement rarely matches the product, and I doubt it's any different in the Army even today.

That is totally different...............
anyways why is this being discussed seriously....the OP is a troll that has never served anywhere but his parent's basement. Read some of his other post........

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: AntiEverything

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
If you had served, which I am beginning to doubt, you would know they are called REMF's. 😛

I've served, and never heard the term REMF. 😕

Really? Damn, we even had that term in the Puddle Pirates. I thought we got all the slang last. 😛

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: cjgallen
Go Navy.

do you loves seamen?

 

[Vegitto]

TriStar: Please die. Please die, now.

 

[knyghtbyte]

Originally posted by: AntiEverything
What a bunch of arseholes in this thread. The OP has a point.

I don't know if they still do it, but when I enlisted 13 years ago they gave me a huge list of MOSes and told me to pick out a couple that sounded interesting. They then showed me a video that was supposed to show me what that MOS was like. This video showed the Fire Support Specialist driving tracked vehicles, using laser range finders and field computers to relay coordinates back to the artillery.

When I actually got out to my unit it was a bunch of guys with maps and binoculars, humping everywhere. We were lucky if there were enough HUMVEEs for everyone in the unit.

Fact is, the advertisement rarely matches the product, and I doubt it's any different in the Army even today.

is that a term just in the services, or were ur unit just very horny?.....hehe

 

[Wapp]

This thread is dumb.