guys, would you have enough confidence in yourself

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moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Klixxer
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eh, you aren't worth the taps on the keyboard.

you all have turned this into a flame Mosh thread. go read my original post. that is what the thread was
intended to be.

Actually if you read the thread you would see that you needed no help getting this thread to become a flame fest.

All you want is for everyone to answer "YES, your boyfriend is an @sshole for not buying your clothes for you".

The flames started when that didn't happen.
no..... i never claimed he was an a$$hole for not buying me a dress - i said it would be nice to have a guy do that.

don't twist words man, it is so unbecoming.

Ok, you claimed that men who don't do this has no confidence in themselves, not that they are @ssholes, i don't know which is worse though, i would rather be called an @sshole than to be accused of having no confidence in myself.

Well, i and an overwhelming majority disagrees with that buying dresses for women has ANYTHING to do with confidence.

If anything, in this thread you have shown your lack of confidence in yourself by stating that you would wear that ugly dress instead of taking it back to the store.
after admitting you twisted my words you have no credibility.

LOL, great "answer"[/quote]
"thanks"[/quote]

"you're welcome"[/quote]
your name isn't Larry by any chance is it?[/quote]

No actually it isn't, is your name Paris?[/quote]
heh, you think Paris would be posting on ATOT?
fat chance there Last word Larry.
 

Tiamat

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Nov 25, 2003
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Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: Tiamat
However, there are a rare set of guys that know everything about fashion, and would probably not have a problem with picking out a dress for a girl. I forget the pyschological term for this type of person, and they arent exclusively homosexual.

Is the word you are looking for "bisexual" or "metrosexual"?

Well, the stereotype is that homosexual men know fashion. Metrosexuals are men who know fashion and are not homosexual. So, metrosexual is the term i was looking for.

I am not supporting any stereotypes.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Klixxer
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eh, you aren't worth the taps on the keyboard.

you all have turned this into a flame Mosh thread. go read my original post. that is what the thread was
intended to be.

Actually if you read the thread you would see that you needed no help getting this thread to become a flame fest.

All you want is for everyone to answer "YES, your boyfriend is an @sshole for not buying your clothes for you".

The flames started when that didn't happen.
no..... i never claimed he was an a$$hole for not buying me a dress - i said it would be nice to have a guy do that.

don't twist words man, it is so unbecoming.

Ok, you claimed that men who don't do this has no confidence in themselves, not that they are @ssholes, i don't know which is worse though, i would rather be called an @sshole than to be accused of having no confidence in myself.

Well, i and an overwhelming majority disagrees with that buying dresses for women has ANYTHING to do with confidence.

If anything, in this thread you have shown your lack of confidence in yourself by stating that you would wear that ugly dress instead of taking it back to the store.
after admitting you twisted my words you have no credibility.

LOL, great "answer"
"thanks"[/quote]

"you're welcome"[/quote]
your name isn't Larry by any chance is it?[/quote]

No actually it isn't, is your name Paris?[/quote]
heh, you think Paris would be posting on ATOT?
fat chance there Last word Larry.[/quote]

"Last word Larry"? LMAO, kindergarten taunts?
 

rezinn

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Mar 30, 2004
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Ugh. I could try, but I would be scared of getting the wrong size. I don't think a dress is something you just buy without trying on. Even if you know what size it is, my girlfriends clothes are like four different sizes and they all fit her about the same, depending on the brand.
 

Mellman

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Jul 9, 2003
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I'd do it, and i have done it...now are we talking like $500 ballroom gown? or just somethin to wear out on the town to dinner and what not? My gf and i are both 20 and i've bought her..2 dress's...plus plenty of other clothes didnt know that many guys refused to buy clothes for their female
 

memo

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: memo
ok, who messed up the horizontal scroll? :)

looking fine here, are you running 800 x 600 or somethine?


was readin pg 4 while posting. this thread is on fire.
 

krunchykrome

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Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
i have always wanted a guy to just go out and buy me a dress he would like to see me in.
but are there any guys in real life who would dare to do that?

I did that once. I bought an ex girlfriend a summer dress from GAP. I didnt have any idea about size or anything. So I bought a 6. It turns out she was a 1. I'll never do that again.
 

SniperWulf

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Fellas fellas fellas, you gotta know how to shop! I buy clothes for my girl all the time and they fit perfectly. I mean, if you don't know your womans dimensions then who will? ;)

Here is a hint: get into her closet and look at sizes when she is not around!
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TheBDB
Originally posted by: moshquerade
is there a right answer to that question Lazy8s?
i just think it would be nice. if it doesn't happen i wouldn't hold it against him.

Of course you would. That is why you started this thread.
i started the thread asking if any guys have enough confidence in themselves to buy
their girl a dress. does it not take confidence?

In order to purchase a dress, one needs a wallet and a desire to do so. In order to get the right dress, one needs a special combination of luck, fashion sense and impossible knowledge your woman's tastes and proportions.

"Confidence" really has nothing to do with it. A retarded baboon with an unfilled paxil subscription could buy dress if could hold a fist full of dollars and point with it's other hand.

The only reason I can see for 'confidence in yourself' being in the title is so you can force some kind of connection between our manhood and dress buying willingness/abilities...that way when we say no you can just go "Oh, you must not have any balls then." Its a loaded question.
 

TheBDB

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: moshquerade
i have always wanted a guy to just go out and buy me a dress he would like to see me in.
but are there any guys in real life who would dare to do that?

I did that once. I bought an ex girlfriend a summer dress from GAP. I didnt have any idea about size or anything. So I bought a 6. It turns out she was a 1. I'll never do that again.

Ouch
 
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Lola

holy crap...:Q
Mosh was not turning this into an "all men suck" thread.

Its true what the few males on here that are married say.

It is about being so intiamte that one would know what their wife would like/feel good in.

You guys also dont seem to understand that even in todays 'femi-nazi girl power' society, most females DO want to look good for their spouse/BF. When they think we are pretty and sexy, we in turn even feel more so. That all has to do with picking something out for her.
 

Lazy8s

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Jun 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: Lola
holy crap...:Q
Mosh was not turning this into an "all men suck" thread.

Its true what the few males on here that are married say.

It is about being so intiamte that one would know what their wife would like/feel good in.

You guys also dont seem to understand that even in todays 'femi-nazi girl power' society, most females DO want to look good for their spouse/BF. When they think we are pretty and sexy, we in turn even feel more so. That all has to do with picking something out for her.

The major problem is most girls are SO self conscious that if the guy makes an honest mistake and messes up the buy the girl will over react. Now, is this a problem with society putting too much pressure on women? Is it caused by men in the first place? I dunno, but that's the way it is for a lot of women. I happen to successfuly pull it off a lot but most guys just don't know how to, I mean look at most guys, they can't buy clothes that fit themselves!
 

PingSpike

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Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Lazy8s
Originally posted by: Lola
holy crap...:Q
Mosh was not turning this into an "all men suck" thread.

Its true what the few males on here that are married say.

It is about being so intiamte that one would know what their wife would like/feel good in.

You guys also dont seem to understand that even in todays 'femi-nazi girl power' society, most females DO want to look good for their spouse/BF. When they think we are pretty and sexy, we in turn even feel more so. That all has to do with picking something out for her.

The major problem is most girls are SO self conscious that if the guy makes an honest mistake and messes up the buy the girl will over react. Now, is this a problem with society putting too much pressure on women? Is it caused by men in the first place? I dunno, but that's the way it is for a lot of women. I happen to successfuly pull it off a lot but most guys just don't know how to, I mean look at most guys, they can't buy clothes that fit themselves!

Exactly. You don't ask your plumber to do you taxes for you.
 

loup garou

Lifer
Feb 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Lola
holy crap...:Q
Mosh was not turning this into an "all men suck" thread.

Its true what the few males on here that are married say.

It is about being so intiamte that one would know what their wife would like/feel good in.

You guys also dont seem to understand that even in todays 'femi-nazi girl power' society, most females DO want to look good for their spouse/BF. When they think we are pretty and sexy, we in turn even feel more so. That all has to do with picking something out for her.
I buy my girlfriend plenty of gifts that make her feel sexy and pretty, but a dress will not be one of them.
As I stated in the beginning of the thread, the sizing is impossible. She has a closet full of clothes, some are 0's, some are 1's, some are 2's. I know her general dimensions, but there is very little consistency in sizing of women's clothing. It is also difficult for her to find clothes that fit her well, especially dresses, as she is petite and has narrow shoulders (anything with straps usually needs to be altered so they don't fall down...usually her chest keeps the dress up though! ;)). There are so many other things I can get her that would make her feel and look great (jewelry, purses, shoes), why even step into the minefield that is a dress purchase?!
 

Rainsford

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Apr 25, 2001
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I have plenty of confidence, but I also have experience. It's not about sizes, as SniperWulf and others suggest, it's about fashion sense. Being both male AND an engineer, fashion is not my strong suit. I'm much better than I used to be, I can now pick out clothes for myself that don't make me look like some kind of power dork. That being said, the reasons women find clothes attractive are still beyond me, because I still don't understand why the clothes she looked smoking hot in last year are no longer ok to wear.

I suppose if I had metrosexual tendencies I could go into the closet (heh :D), get her sizes and pick out a dress that is both flattering and in style. I'm working on it, but as of yet I can't. Rather than trying and failing over and over, I stick to romantic things I can do well...like cook her a nice dinner with candles and a good bottle of wine (I AM good at picking wine, the benefits of living by Napa Valley). We can't all be good at everything, and clothes are NOT my strong suit, plain and simple.
 

cronos

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Nov 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: DT4K
See, you've hit upon the reason everyone is arguing with you.
If you had titled the thread: "guys, do you buy dresses for your girls?", you would have had civil discussion. But adding the part about having enough confidence is why we all took offense. It implies that the two possible answers are:
1. Yes, we buy dresses for our SO's, so we must have confidence.:cool:
2. No, we don't buy dresses for our SO's, so we must not have enough confidence.:(

When in fact, there is another reasonable and very common answer:
3. No, I don't buy dresses for my SO because she would rather pick out her own clothes, but I have plenty of confidence and I often pick out other kinds of gifts without her seeing them because I know she will appreciate it more than me spending our money on clothes that she hasn't tried on.

You not only implied this with your thread title, but then you went on to tell those of us who answered no, that we didn't have the balls to do it.
Do you seriously not understand how it is flamebait to accuse a bunch of guys of not having the balls??????

oh so true.
 

cronos

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Being both male AND an engineer, fashion is not my strong suit. I'm much better than I used to be, I can now pick out clothes for myself that don't make me look like some kind of power dork.

you're so lucky. my wife is still working on me. :laugh:
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Lazy8s
Originally posted by: Lola
holy crap...:Q
Mosh was not turning this into an "all men suck" thread.

Its true what the few males on here that are married say.

It is about being so intiamte that one would know what their wife would like/feel good in.

You guys also dont seem to understand that even in todays 'femi-nazi girl power' society, most females DO want to look good for their spouse/BF. When they think we are pretty and sexy, we in turn even feel more so. That all has to do with picking something out for her.

The major problem is most girls are SO self conscious that if the guy makes an honest mistake and messes up the buy the girl will over react. Now, is this a problem with society putting too much pressure on women? Is it caused by men in the first place? I dunno, but that's the way it is for a lot of women. I happen to successfuly pull it off a lot but most guys just don't know how to, I mean look at most guys, they can't buy clothes that fit themselves!

Exactly. You don't ask your plumber to do you taxes for you.

Yes, you are right, most women are at least a little self-consious. And, sure, it may have something to do with men in the first place, but no more than what we subject ourselves too as well.
I think you are right that most guys could not pull it off, not beacuse they are bad shoppers, but because they dont want to take the time to get to know their wives/GF taste, style, size, get in their car, drive to the mall, look in more than one store, search through piles of dresses to find the right dress, to find the right size, get in line and pay for it and bring it home.

I will never stop saying it truly is little things like this that make a relationship work and last. all those little things, like finding out her size and looking for a nice dress add up. they really do. In all honesty, if a girl knew that her s/o took all that time and effort to find her a dress that he liked, she would never say, its ugly or would not wear it. If she IS that kind of girl, she is not worth the effort.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Xionide
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: moshquerade
*sigh* that's what i'm sayin...

but doesn't anyone take a chance anymore?

aparenntly not. i guess chivalry really is dead. :(

And women killed it.

-Xionide

Heh. I was going to post that but it was off topic at the time so neglected too. They are at least partially to blame for its death.
 

DougK62

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People, realize that buying a dress != buying other clothes. I've bought plenty of slacks, skirts, and tops. Buying a dress is much harder to get right.