GUYS THE BTX COOLER RUMORS ARE TRUE!!!

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: Tiamat
I see nothing wrong with that heatsink... I mean, just turn off the fan, wait about 30 seconds, and then you can toss a slice of bread on it, make some toast, then put on your ear plugs, then turn the fan back on!

not an entirely bad idea.... of course that is if the heatsink will keep the proc cool for 30 secs...

to answer someone else's question... ATX or Advanced Technology eXtended (I believe it is advanced...) is the current form factor.... BTX or Balanced Technology eXtended is Intel's new form factor that AMD will be forced to adopt.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The 1.4ghz tbird was much maligned for its power and heat requirements and I recall seeing a guy on one of the U.K. based sites do a thread about how to cook your breakfast with it The highest clocked Pallys weren't exactly well recieved either so the presshot stuff is par for the course.

As to the cooler linked, if it works then what is the BFD? Beyond the typical "we fear change' reaction Wingz pointed out?

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
once again you guys are proving to be a forum full of AMD fanboys...

everyone knows the prescott runs hot... any reason why people have to keep beating this point into everyone over and over again???

if amd released a processor that ran HOTTER than a prescott, would we see everyone on this forum crying... "OMG AMD PROCESSORS RUN SO HOT!!" of course not... i'm sure there'd be tons of people that'd back up amd saying stuff like... "well it's necessary blah blah blah"

put yourself into wingznuts shoes... i don't blame him at all for standing up for intel (yes he works there) but still...

my last 4 or so systems ahve been AMD but i'm realy getting tired of reading all these "prescott's run hot" threads... everyone knows that... but have you guys seen what sort of damage a 5 ghz prescott can do? go check out xtremesystems.org... at least those guys don't constantly cry and whine about prescott's running so hot...

can't we discuss something like the dual core amd chips that are just around the corner? or even the dual gpu video cards that are coming out soon?

WOW... I take it you have a very shot term memory. When AMD's fist .13 Athlon chips came out they were hot as heck. People were putting them down worse then prescott. So you might want to re-think thet idea.


And Wingznut, you are comparing aftermarket overclocing heatsinks to what will be Intels OEM heatsink. I am running dual Xeons right now and the heatsink that was recomened is about twice as big as the one linked here.
Intel has funked up, and intel peopel are still playing the "no we have not" game.

:roll:

see i don't even remember that far back.... and i really don't remember reading on these forums about people complaining about the heat output by these cpu's...

and if they did, it was nothing as bad as what people have been saying about the prescott's...

 

[imported_zenwhen]

Shimmishim, they never talked about it when AMD's chips ran hotter. They grasp at every straw possible to verbally rim-job their favorite CPU manufacturer.

 

[Zebo]

No we knew it ran hot (still cooler than any presscot) but it offered better performance at half the price as pentium a's did. Call me when intel does that, half the price and better performance, and I'll ignore heat dissapation and power req.,

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: Zebo
No we knew it ran hot (still cooler than any presscot) but it offered better performance at half the price as pentium a's did. Call me when intel does that, half the price and better performance, and I'll ignore heat dissapation and power req.,

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: zakee00

Originally posted by: Zebo
No we knew it ran hot (still cooler than any presscot) but it offered better performance at half the price as pentium a's did. Call me when intel does that, half the price and better performance, and I'll ignore heat dissapation and power req.,

 

[Zebo]

I will not be buying a BTX case. I just spent $220 on a ATX case and about 10 hours cutting and drilling on it and I plan to keep as long ATX is available.

 

[THUGSROOK]

i will not be buying BTX or Prescott.....

 

[sandorski]

Turn around is fair play. Hell, there are still many who think Athlons run much hotter than P4s based on years old info.

That said, this is an after-market heatsink and as such is not really indicative of what the OEM heatsink will be.

 

[LifeStealer]

Have you seen the OEM Intel sink yet? Its worse.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Turn around is fair play. Hell, there are still many who think Athlons run much hotter than P4s based on years old info.

That said, this is an after-market heatsink and as such is not really indicative of what the OEM heatsink will be.

Ahh.. yes it is. Here is pics of Intels RETAIL BTX heatsink...



All pics

Retail Intel heatsink bottom PIC

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: sandorski
Turn around is fair play. Hell, there are still many who think Athlons run much hotter than P4s based on years old info.

That said, this is an after-market heatsink and as such is not really indicative of what the OEM heatsink will be.

Ahh.. yes it is. Here is pics of Intels RETAIL BTX heatsink...



All pics

Retail Intel heatsink bottom PIC

Holy Moly!

:Q

Could double as a power supply, almost.

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I will not be buying a BTX case. I just spent $220 on a ATX case and about 10 hours cutting and drilling on it and I plan to keep as long ATX is available.

wow, did you like seriously mod your case? post some pics, i'd like to see it

 

[GRIFFIN1]

Those "High density thin fins" will be full of dust in less than a week.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: sandorski
Turn around is fair play. Hell, there are still many who think Athlons run much hotter than P4s based on years old info.

That said, this is an after-market heatsink and as such is not really indicative of what the OEM heatsink will be.

Ahh.. yes it is. Here is pics of Intels RETAIL BTX heatsink...



All pics

Retail Intel heatsink bottom PIC

The BTX P4 HSF is even bigger than a typical cube PC speaker! :Q

 

[zakee00]

lol

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: zakee00

Originally posted by: Zebo
I will not be buying a BTX case. I just spent $220 on a ATX case and about 10 hours cutting and drilling on it and I plan to keep as long ATX is available.

wow, did you like seriously mod your case? post some pics, i'd like to see it

Ill take some pics soon. (that's another big thread)..."ultimate silence, high performance possible?" or something along those lines...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: GRIFFIN1
Those "High density thin fins" will be full of dust in less than a week.

Perhaps in someone elses' house that has bad air quality and poorly sealed and filtered case, not in mine

 

[Vette73]

^

Bubble boy, is that you.

 

[mamisano]

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: Tiamat
I see nothing wrong with that heatsink... I mean, just turn off the fan, wait about 30 seconds, and then you can toss a slice of bread on it, make some toast, then put on your ear plugs, then turn the fan back on!

not an entirely bad idea.... of course that is if the heatsink will keep the proc cool for 30 secs...

to answer someone else's question... ATX or Advanced Technology eXtended (I believe it is advanced...) is the current form factor.... BTX or Balanced Technology eXtended is Intel's new form factor that AMD will be forced to adopt.

Ummm, AMD WILL NOT adopt BTX, they have no reason to and actually CAN NOT do it with the integrated memory controller. The Memory is placed too far away on the board to utilize an integrated memory contoller so it is physically not possible for them to utilize BTX.

Just because Intel designed BTX does not mean that AMD needs to adopt it... heck, even the industry has been reluctant to adopt it. BTW, this basically kills any possible chance of Intel going with an integrated memory controller, one of AMDs main benefits right now.

BTX should be renamed DOA...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
^

Bubble boy, is that you.

Just about I have a Puron central air&heat with UV, hepafilter, and ionization, and the fan runs 24/7 for air circulation and processing. hepafilter bagless vacs, room cleaners, and for my PCs, well sealed cases with filters.

I have seen many reports of children suffering from sick home syndrome and I won't risk my child's health unecessarily :heart: Being able to go for many months between filter cleaning and taking the computers outside and hitting them with the leaf blower is just a nice ancillary benefit.

 

[Hottie]

Looks like a G5 HSF to me, but it is big.

 

[zakee00]

Originally posted by: mamisano

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: Tiamat
I see nothing wrong with that heatsink... I mean, just turn off the fan, wait about 30 seconds, and then you can toss a slice of bread on it, make some toast, then put on your ear plugs, then turn the fan back on!

not an entirely bad idea.... of course that is if the heatsink will keep the proc cool for 30 secs...

to answer someone else's question... ATX or Advanced Technology eXtended (I believe it is advanced...) is the current form factor.... BTX or Balanced Technology eXtended is Intel's new form factor that AMD will be forced to adopt.

Ummm, AMD WILL NOT adopt BTX, they have no reason to and actually CAN NOT do it with the integrated memory controller. The Memory is placed too far away on the board to utilize an integrated memory contoller so it is physically not possible for them to utilize BTX.

Just because Intel designed BTX does not mean that AMD needs to adopt it... heck, even the industry has been reluctant to adopt it. BTW, this basically kills any possible chance of Intel going with an integrated memory controller, one of AMDs main benefits right now.

BTX should be renamed DOA...

wow i just learned alot *thumbsup*

 

[jiffylube1024]

Is it just me, or does that new Intel BTX HSF/air shroud contraption look like the CPU is being cooled by a 50-pack spindle of CD's or DVD's?

Interesting design... frikkin huge though.

Intel will find a way around BTX's pervasive CPU location for memory bandwidth like they always do (probably not with Prescott though).

For the moment, however, BTX, Prescott, and DDR2 all seem like worthless upgrades IMO. Why go through all of this when you can get cooler, faster ATX DDR1 Athlon64 for less (or similar) money?

The 'we all will need to upgrade to BTX/DDR2/etc argument' doesnt really cut it either. Did we all need to go to RDRAM eventually? Was the .25um P4 ever truly the best option (price/performance)? I don't think so.