[Guru3D] Galaxytech GeForce GTX 780 Ti Spec Sheet Leaks

[tviceman]

Nice... I don't know how you guys think it will use the same amount of power as a 780. Maybe Titan cause it has less RAM.

In any case. I hope this doesn't turn into a 7800GTX 512MB situation where the GPUs are basically non existant.

It's only clocked 30mhz higher than the 780 and chip functionality has very little impact on power consumption. That is why. As you can see in the graph below, the 760 (which runs at a higher frequency than the 670) actually draws more power than the 670, despite having less active cores.

 

[MrK6]

That's nice. The sales numbers and hardware polls however don't back you up.

Lol, qft.

Pretty great if these are the final specs, this is turning into a good ol' slugfest.

 

[desprado]

Lol, qft.

Pretty great if these are the final specs, this is turning into a good ol' slugfest.

Of course it will beat R9 290X but at but price point AMD has won that i must give to AMD from it is from Nvidia Fanboy.

 

[ams23]

I doubt it will beat 290X @ 4K or eyefinity.

GTX 780 Ti should be way ahead of R9 290X when it comes to noise, heat, power consumed, OC ability, build quality, and industrial design. And with these specs, the GTX 780 Ti will actually have higher memory bandwidth than R9 290X. Min. Framebuffer size is obviously less, but the mem. bandwidth is the more important metric at 4K resolution (albeit not the only important one)). That said, 4K gaming with higher details would require an investment of many thousands of dollars in monitor and multiple GPU's. And due to large advantages in noise/heat/power consumed relative to 290X, GTX 780 Ti would be a more attractive choice in these systems IMO.

 

[Phynaz]

C'mon Nvidia, have some balls to shake up the market. Price this at $500.

 

[wand3r3r]

GTX 780 Ti should be way ahead of R9 290X when it comes to noise, heat, power consumed, OC ability, build quality, and industrial design. And with these specs, the GTX 780 Ti will actually have higher memory bandwidth than R9 290X. Min. Framebuffer size is obviously less, but the mem. bandwidth is the more important metric at 4K resolution (albeit not the only important one)). That said, 4K gaming with higher details would require an investment of many thousands of dollars in monitor and multiple GPU's. And due to large advantages in noise/heat/power consumed relative to 290X, GTX 780 Ti would be a more attractive choice in these systems IMO.

Noise/heat/power, presumably will easily go to the 780 ti. They have a lot of leeway to play with.

The build quality, industrial design, OC ability are all up the air. As people mentioned elsewhere, the reference 780 is nothing special other than the cooler is clearly better. It will be aftermarket vs. aftermarket on build quality, OCability, and industrial design, but the reference board itself will likely not be anything special (presumably like 780/titan).

Will the 780 ti at 7 GHz be nearing the limits? I think the 290x is clocked very low and iirc has memory rated 500MHz higher than it's using. I don't know how much memory OCing affects the 290x though, but it may have more headroom if I were to just guess since the memory is clocked so low.

As for 4k, I doubt the 780 ti will beat the 290x. It might come close enough to trade blows, however even that will be somewhat surprising considering the titans weak performance.

It's going to be an interesting battle for the crown. 1080p will undoubtedly be clear, but going higher might not be. To me it seems unlikely it will be undisputed at higher resolutions, which will make the $700 very questionable/overpriced. I could be wrong though, just a guess.

 

[ams23]

A reference GTX 780 Ti will have superior build quality and industrial design compared to a reference R9 290X. These are the parts that are confirmed as being available this holiday season.

As for R9 290X, many reviewers have found "Uber" mode to be annoyingly loud (to the point where it is nearly unbearable over extended periods of gameplay). Crossfire 290X only makes the noise (and heat and power consumption) worse. In "Quiet" mode (which is really not that quiet at all), the GTX 780 Ti should be well ahead of R9 290X at all resolutions (including 4K).

As for pricing, the GTX 780 Ti is a high end part that commands high end pricing. It does include three free triple AAA games and a $100 coupon which sweetens the deal for the holidays, all without making heavy sacrifices in terms of noise/heat/power consumption/build quality/industrial design/OC ability as is seen on R9 290X reference design.

 

[SlowSpyder]

A reference GTX 780 Ti will have superior build quality and industrial design compared to a reference R9 290X. These are the parts that are confirmed as being available this holiday season.

As for R9 290X, many reviewers have found "Uber" mode to be annoyingly loud (to the point where it is nearly unbearable over extended periods of gameplay). Crossfire 290X only makes the noise (and heat and power consumption) worse. In "Quiet" mode (which is really not that quiet at all), the GTX 780 Ti should be well ahead of R9 290X at all resolutions (including 4K).

C'mon now, how do you know the build quality of the 780Ti will be better? If anything, I'd say historically AMD's reference designs on their high end cards have been more robust than Nvidia's.

With that being said, both will have a lot of non-reference options that will be built to very high standards. Unless you absolutely must buy now, I think the smart thing to do is put your credit card away for a few weeks and wait to see what non-reference designs for both GPU makers come to market.

As I understand it, an 800MHz 290X is as fast to faster than a 780. I'm sure there will be plenty of non-reference designs that keep the clocks over 1GHz, not to mention the pretty slow (relatively speaking) 5Gbps memory that is used on the reference cards leaves a lot of room for more bandwidth on non-reference cards.

OP, if you can wait a bit, that's what I would do. I am sure there will be some really fantastic cards coming out that use both GPU manufacturer's silicon.

 

[parvadomus]

GTX 780 Ti should be way ahead of R9 290X when it comes to noise, heat, power consumed, OC ability, build quality, and industrial design. And with these specs, the GTX 780 Ti will actually have higher memory bandwidth than R9 290X. Min. Framebuffer size is obviously less, but the mem. bandwidth is the more important metric at 4K resolution (albeit not the only important one)). That said, 4K gaming with higher details would require an investment of many thousands of dollars in monitor and multiple GPU's. And due to large advantages in noise/heat/power consumed relative to 290X, GTX 780 Ti would be a more attractive choice in these systems IMO.

What about fillrate?

 

[ams23]

C'mon now, how do you know t the 780Ti will be better?

GTX 780 Ti uses the same or similar alloy metal shroud reference design as Titan. R9 290X uses a plastic shroud that is in a totally different league. R9 290X reference also suffers from more pronounced coil whine (in addition to being much louder and hotter than GTX 780 Ti too).

 

[imaheadcase]

That's nice. The sales numbers and hardware polls however don't back you up.

Not sure what part of "lots of people" you didn't understand..lots of people do buy the card obviously, since they make them like crazy, and sell out when first released like crazy.

fyi you don't know sale numbers.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I'll wait to see aftermarket 290x and also for nvidia to actually release the ti before passing judgment.

 

[imaheadcase]

there is nothing magical at 4k on a 32 inch screen and you can still end up needing it for some games. But you are also the person who claims to get no tearing in any game so surely you can't even see aliasing anyway.

Like most people.

 

[wand3r3r]

GTX 780 Ti uses the same or similar alloy metal shroud reference design as Titan. R9 290X uses a plastic shroud that is in a totally different league. R9 290X reference also suffers from more pronounced coil whine (in addition to being much louder and hotter than GTX 780 Ti too).

So the cooler is better, not the "build quality and industrial design". That was hard to get a straight answer on, it sounds like it's straight from the brochure the way you explain the ti's alleged superiority.

 

[imaheadcase]

I thought I was the only one who got video cards with platinum trim and 22K gold heatsinks with custom filigree.

No, thats called being stupid. Having money for something that performs better is called awesome.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I would also expect the ti to have a better cooler considering they skimped on the memory and it costs 25% more.

 

[SlowSpyder]

GTX 780 Ti uses the same or similar alloy metal shroud reference design as Titan. R9 290X uses a plastic shroud that is in a totally different league. R9 290X reference also suffers from more pronounced coil whine (in addition to being much louder and hotter than GTX 780 Ti too).

You misquoted me and everything you said really doesn't relate to the card's build quality.

 

[ams23]

So the cooler is better, not the "build quality and industrial design". That was hard to get a straight answer on, it sounds like it's straight from the brochure the way you explain the ti's alleged superiority.

LOL, build quality and industrial design of a graphics card include all elements of said card. As for brochure, I have never seen any, but this is all common sense really.

 

[ams23]

I would also expect the ti to have a better cooler considering they skimped on the memory and it costs 25% more.

I wouldn't say they "skimped" on memory considering that they are using ultra high speed GDDR5 RAM! The actual amount of RAM should be sufficient for some time to come (ie. 6GB RAM would be overkill and would increase price much more than perf). Honestly, I am pleasantly surprised that mem. bandwidth got such a nice jump vs. GTX 780 and Titan.

 

[wand3r3r]

The build quality, industrial design, OC ability are all up the air. As people mentioned elsewhere, the reference 780 is nothing special other than the cooler is clearly better.

GTX 780 Ti uses the same or similar alloy metal shroud reference design as Titan. R9 290X uses a plastic shroud that is in a totally different league. R9 290X reference also suffers from more pronounced coil whine (in addition to being much louder and hotter than GTX 780 Ti too).

So the cooler is better, not the "build quality and industrial design". That was hard to get a straight answer on, it sounds like it's straight from the brochure the way you explain the ti's alleged superiority.

LOL, build quality and industrial design of a graphics card include all elements of said card. As for brochure, I have never seen any, but this is all common sense really.

So basically after a few attempts, your claimed superior "build quality and industrial design" boils down to a better cooler. I already agreed that the cooler will be better (it can't be worse), however you skewed it as something more than the cooler which turns out to be unsubstantiated when you finally admit that's all you mean.

/done here

 

[Jhatfie]

I'll wait to see aftermarket 290x and also for nvidia to actually release the ti before passing judgment.

I think that this is the only logical thing to do. 780 Ti has not even been released and all we have at this time is just speculation until NDA is up and official reviews are out. I have no doubts that the 780ti will slightly out muscle the 290x, but it will not be worth $150 more to anyone that cares about price/performance.

 

[ams23]

@ Wand3r3r: I suggest that you read Tom's Hardware Guide article on GTX 690 card design to get a better feel and understanding for what it takes to build a superior reference design. This isn't rocket science (even as you trivialize the work that went into the reference design). And this is not just about keeping a GPU "cool" but "quiet" too. For instance, the coil whine issue on R9 290X will not be an issue on GTX 780 Ti.

 

[Grooveriding]

So the cooler is better, not the "build quality and industrial design". That was hard to get a straight answer on, it sounds like it's straight from the brochure the way you explain the ti's alleged superiority.

Lol. This is nvidia's wildcard. No need to compensate or pay for shills. They can inspire folks to do it just because they enjoy it.

 

[tviceman]

Lol. This is nvidia's wildcard. No need to compensate or pay for shills. They can inspire folks to do it just because they enjoy it.

So you going to sell those 780's and get the big daddy ultimate gk110 card groover?

 

[lavaheadache]

So you going to sell those 780's and get the big daddy ultimate gk110 card groover?

I know I am... :biggrin: