why do most ppl buy homeowners insurance??? more than likely you won't need it.
My house has been broken into before.
why do most ppl buy homeowners insurance??? more than likely you won't need it.
My house has been broken into before.
hah.. so you are saying that if a 90lb female gets raped its her fault for putting herself in that situation?? or that she has no common sense..
Fingolfin269
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And how many of these families who are 'protecting themselves fine without guns' have actually been faced with a situation where a gun would have been beneficial? Those people aren't special or anything, they're just playing the %'s and coming out on top.
You obviously don't do much work with your hands...
I'm sure you can rip open computer hardware boxes just fine
I would not want to live in a world where everyone owns a gun. There are many other safe measures to take before purchasing a gun.
Yes, we could have installed high security locks on the doors and windows, a perimeter security and lighting system, we also could even train our dog in shutzhund (attack dog.) But where do you stop? The shotgun seemed the best way to provide the security my wife needs when I am not home.
Pliablemoose
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Vic
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Or maybe we should outlaw libelous movie producers instead?Originally posted by: DeeKnow
NRA? LOL ... that would be an unbiased party on this debate, i spose...
I recently saw Heston on "columbine' ... i think he disgraced himself rather sadly on that film... NRA should be declared an illegal organization
Originally posted by: Vic
Or maybe we should outlaw libelous movie producers instead?Originally posted by: DeeKnow
NRA? LOL ... that would be an unbiased party on this debate, i spose...
I recently saw Heston on "columbine' ... i think he disgraced himself rather sadly on that film... NRA should be declared an illegal organization
we shouldn't outlaw much of anything apart from harming another being.
Kill another and let the courts decide if it was justifed. That's what the law is for.
This is america. And thank god we live in it.
<---goes and makes sure his sig is loaded.
Really? Can you post a link to confirm this? Im not saying that this is a lie or an assumption, but I would really like to see something that confirms it's truth.
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/allnewsbydate.asp?NewsID=298
Looks like his numbers are a little bit off but the basic idea is there.
http://medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html
It's not easy finding good, recent data...
That second link takes a very definite anti gun stance & quotes over 50% "admitting" they have guns.
Viper GTS
Can you find a link with statistics by state? I think the majority of those statistics were from states such as Texas, etc. Id be interested in knowing %'s from each state.
2001 isnt very old, but more some recent statistics would be appreciated as well.
I'm trying my best with no contact lenses. For now I'm going to bed, if you want better data find it yourself.
Viper GTS
He found you statistics. If they aren't exactly what you want, he's right, look yourself. Also, I'm curious why you think the majority were from states such as Texas. Stereotype? Or do you have actual reasons?
Something in the stats provided you should have noted:
Gun ownership is lower (17%) among people in low-income households (less than $15,000 income) and higher in households with incomes between $35,000 and $50,000 (47%) and between $50,001 and $75,000 (51%).
On a side note... your @ss called, he said he is tired of you doing all your talking out of him.
alkemyst
No Lifer
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I was going to post a couple links, 50% has been the number in MANY surveys/censuses for a long time...if tested today the number should be about the same (except that 50% number represents more households).
My second part of the post was going to be about how now those wanting the numbers will argue that someone just made them up, want 5-10 more links and a newspaper source of the same info, and the poster to go cross-country and survey a minimum of 1000 people from each state....then come back and say 1000 people from each state is too low a number and must have been hand-picked :roll:
Fact is this type in www.google.com into your browser one day instead of www.pokemonismyhero.com and search for 'gun ownership US' or 'gun households US' or whatever state you are feeling fearful about.
alkemyst
No Lifer
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And as far as national statistics goes 2001 is really decent. Unless you are a huge organization just getting the numbers back can take a year or so, then counting up the numbers and running whatever cross-numbers you'd like (age groups, income brackets, other demographics) could take another year or so.
That's pretty much a given - guns, ammo, equipment/supplies, range time, etc. is expensive.
Not to mention the higher your income the greater the odds of someone with lower income trying to jack your sh!t from you.
Viper GTS
Pliablemoose
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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
That's pretty much a given - guns, ammo, equipment/supplies, range time, etc. is expensive.
Not to mention the higher your income the greater the odds of someone with lower income trying to jack your sh!t from you.
Viper GTS
I was looking @ stats on another site, they must have ignored the lower income stats.
Now if we had pics, we could blow krunchykrome's theory about gun owners being poor, uneducated & unattractive out the window...
Actually, I meant your comment about women not having common sense if they are a victim of a violent crime. That's a patently stupid account. And, for me, a very personal one. One of my best friends was the victim of a rape. Are you telling me she has no common sense? Do you know how asinine of a thing that is to say?
The percentage of firearm-owning households on a national level has not been 50% for many years, probably not since the 1970s. The consensus range is between 35% and 45%, which makes 40% a nice figure to use. There is some risk of under-reporting due to the extreme sensitivity of the issue in some areas of the country (i.e. if you own a handgun in Washington D.C., you're probably not going to tell anyone over the phone "Yes, I am committing a felony right now").
Neither does Charlton Heston.
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