Guess where my first patient is coming from tomorrow?

Slew Foot

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Guys coming in for a new pacemaker, guess where he's coming from.





If you guessed, Death Row, you'd be right. Good going CA, $50K of taxpayer dollars down the drain.
 

nick1985

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$50k for a pacemaker....or 40 cents for a .40 caliber bullet.


I have the answer!
 
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California had 13 executions from 1976-April 17, 2009 (33 years)...chances are that pacemaker you put in today will have to be replaced in about 10 years.
 

ericlp

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What's worse there are millions with out insurance tho... This guy that did the WORST thing ever gets medical....

Something just isn't right all the way around on this situation. If it were China, it would have been done with and you know china picks up the bullet casing and mails it to the family to make them pay for the bullet! Man that country is awesome in SO many ways.
 

CycloWizard

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What's worse there are millions with out insurance tho... This guy that did the WORST thing ever gets medical....

Something just isn't right all the way around on this situation. If it were China, it would have been done with and you know china picks up the bullet casing and mails it to the family to make them pay for the bullet! Man that country is awesome in SO many ways.
Don't let the door hit you on your way to the culmination of your ideology.
 

boomerang

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California had 13 executions from 1976-April 17, 2009 (33 years)...chances are that pacemaker you put in today will have to be replaced in about 10 years.
Maybe sooner if they come up with a better model. No reason he should be denied the newest and best.
 

Braznor

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What's worse there are millions with out insurance tho... This guy that did the WORST thing ever gets medical....

Something just isn't right all the way around on this situation. If it were China, it would have been done with and you know china picks up the bullet casing and mails it to the family to make them pay for the bullet! Man that country is awesome in SO many ways.

Why don't you move to that awesome place?
 

werepossum

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You might be able to save the state some electricity - do they make pacemakers with remote controls? <VBEG>

Letting him die on the operating table sounds good, but Murphy's Law would almost guarantee that new evidence would emerge proving him innocent.
 

ericlp

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Why should I? If I think China's death penalty works 50 times better then our country... So what...

Stay on topic! If your feel great about paying millions of dollars for health care for our inmates. Yet, millions that are doing the right thing suffer with out... Something is hosed in your thinking obviously. Maybe you should jump on the republican bandwagon and vote no for UHC.
 

StageLeft

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If I think China's death penalty works 50 times better then our country
It works faster. I'd definitely argue not as well, but that's because China is overzealous with its killings. I am in general against capital to begin with, but there is an irony in the state paying $50k for this guy's pacemaker when they've already said he should die.
 

Atreus21

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Guys coming in for a new pacemaker, guess where he's coming from.





If you guessed, Death Row, you'd be right. Good going CA, $50K of taxpayer dollars down the drain.

Question: Is the pacemaker itself that pricey or is that the cost of parts plus labor?
 

Moonbeam

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Aren't all the assholes that want this guy dead the same assholes that scream 'rationing'.
 

CycloWizard

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Aren't all the assholes that want this guy dead the same assholes that scream 'rationing'.
Probably. These assholes are apparently the only ones that realize that money is finite, that the state of California is bankrupt, and that putting a pacemaker in a guy who is about to get the chair isn't helping anyone.
 

Slew Foot

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Question: Is the pacemaker itself that pricey or is that the cost of parts plus labor?


Pacer itself costs 30K(or at least, thats what they charge), hospital charges 15K for use of the facility/nurses/drugs/etc., ~3K for the cardiologist, 2K for me.
 

First

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It must really suck to know you have a job that contributes nothing to society.
 

theeedude

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Pacer itself costs 30K(or at least, thats what they charge), hospital charges 15K for use of the facility/nurses/drugs/etc., ~3K for the cardiologist, 2K for me.

So basically $30K for a battery, a small chip and some electrodes, and $20K for a room and a few man hours of labor. Like I said, the biggest obscenity of this situation is NOT who the patient is.