GTX480 arrived [evga forums]

[Martimus]

She has arrived and is installed! Power usage went down from high 500s to low 400s on load. (From the wall) It doesnt look like precision is working right, I dont think my core is that high!

Congrats! I hope it makes you glad you made the purchase.

 

[OCGuy]

Congrats! I hope it makes you glad you made the purchase.

Eh being one of the 1st in the world to recieve the retail version is kinda cool.


I already have 1 of my previous cards sold, so that softens it a little.

 

[Hauk]

OCGuy, you have a 285 still? Is your rig up to using it as a PhysX card? Just curious if nV drivers allow it. No need to bench anything but it'd be nice.

 

[Keysplayr]

Congrats OCGuy.

Hey Keys, question for you. Were you able to determine if a DX10 card can be used as a dedicated PhsyX card with Fermi as main, and the config be DX11 capable? Sorry if it's been covered somewhere already..

Yup. Works like a charm.

 

[OCGuy]

OCGuy, you have a 285 still? Is your rig up to using it as a PhysX card? Just curious if nV drivers allow it. No need to bench anything but it'd be nice.

Yep I do...looks like Keys answered it though.

 

[Hauk]

Yup. Works like a charm.

Ah, now that's interesting. Nevermind OCGuy. Thanks Keys

 

[ronnn]

Yes all of the thousands and thousands of people that are going to eat up all of these Fermi cards in the coming weeks are just rabid nV fanbois.

No argument here.

 

[SolMiester]

Russian did put it a little harsh, but I too can not understand why people would buy these cards, if there are better priced options out there?

LOL, we say that all the time about American cars...!

 

[tviceman]

I figure a large number of Fermi buyers fall into this category:

1) Will not buy ATI, regardless of performance

2) Live with their parents, saved enough money on allowance or job at Burger King to get a Fermi. Do not pay heating/AC so the only cost to them is the initial sunk cost.

You couldn't troll any harder than this if you tried.

 

[tviceman]

its just irrational to purchase something that costs $100 more for a performance increase thats as small as 8-10% or up to 30% faster

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/04/05/metro_2033_directx_11_gameplay_performance_iq/5

Fixed for you, with a little sauce to show. Enjoy!

 

[Puffnstuff]

My gtx 480 has been quieter than my rad fans. It really doesn't sound any different than any other gpu I've had.

 

[yh125d]

I got a good chuckle out of the first page and its use of "early"

 

[Patrick Wolf]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/04/05/metro_2033_directx_11_gameplay_performance_iq/5

Fixed for you, with a little sauce to show. Enjoy!

Don't suppose you saw this part. "...NVIDIA has better optimizations for this game currently than AMD does."

And it's no secret tesselation performance is better with Fermi, but that seems pretty poor if it's the sole reason for buying one of these cards given the lack of games that currently use it.

 

[Keysplayr]

Don't suppose you saw this part. :...NVIDIA has better optimizations for this game currently than AMD does."

And it's no secret tesselation performance is better with Fermi, but it's pretty poor if that's the sole reason for buying one of these cards...

I have a feeling that it isn't the sole reason. Just a hunch.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

I have a feeling that it isn't the sole reason. Just a hunch.

I know, just sayin.

 

[extra]

I have a feeling that it isn't the sole reason. Just a hunch.

Seems like if you have one of the games that these cards run better, or if you do some of the compute stuff especially, it'd be worth it to grab a 470. Looks to really smoke the ati cards in the compute stuff. For most people that game though the ati cards look like a much better deal tho, especially considering how great something like 5770 crossfire for <$300 is hehe. Then again some people hate multi gpu. The good news is the cards, while imho not very appealing for most (unless you need the compute power where it seems like they just roflstomp the ati cards all over the floor), seem to be just good enough that we may finally get some reasonable prices again soon. Come on, you know you're all dreaming of the 5850 dropping to $250 and the 470 being $275...then things would be really interesting.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

I'm dreaming of Islands.

 

[Genx87]

I've got an e8400 O'C'd @ 4.05ghz - my ram is holding me back from going higher - and I see absolutely no reason (for me) to upgrade right now from that.

I am disappointed there werent more reviews done between the C2D and i7 series with these new cards on avg gaming resolutions. In the i series reviews in the fall there was a bump in gaming on the older cards for the higher i series chips but not that great. I dont overclock my CPU. But maybe I will get a 470 and attempt to overclock the E8400. I think I played around with it and got it stable at 3.6Ghz without much effort. Never tried 4Ghz though. I have OCZ PC-1000 Ram.

 

[Elfear]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/04/05/metro_2033_directx_11_gameplay_performance_iq/5

Fixed for you, with a little sauce to show. Enjoy!

You have to show both sides of the coin if you want to make a good point. What about the times when the GTX 480 is slower than the 5870? That's why the oft quoted 10-15% faster is more accurate than saying sometimes it's 30% faster.

 

[RussianSensation]

Now that the GPU is out of the way I can finally make the jump to i7. I have been avoiding it because all I really do is game, and i7 shows almost no gaming benefit over the 45nm E/Q series.

Depends on the games you play. Core i7 would destroy an E8600 in GTA4, Resident Evil 5, ArmA2. Not to mention, Core i7 is vastly superior to an E8xx series when it comes to minimum framerates. http://www.legionhardware.com/artic...ossfire_cpu_scaling_performance_part_2,1.html

 

[RussianSensation]

Don't suppose you saw this part. "...NVIDIA has better optimizations for this game currently than AMD does."

Ya, NV is better optimized for Metro 2033...but in getting there, it runs the game at signficantly reduced image quality at the moment. Therefore, with current drivers, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-480_11.html#sect0

 

[Keysplayr]

Ya, NV is better optimized for Metro 2033...but in getting there, it runs the game at signficantly reduced image quality at the moment. Therefore, with current drivers, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-480_11.html#sect0

Quote from 4A Games:
"No, the observed difference in quality is not due to the performance of the graphics cards. Indeed, graphics cards from Nvidia and ATI render the scene differently in some antialiasing modes. We are trying to find a way to correct this issue. Again, this has nothing to do with speed."

Different AA modes. If you would notice, the ATI shot looks more blocky when you zoom in
closely. The Nvidia shot looks softer and smoother. Look at the doorknob in the first set of screenshots where the dude is standing in the doorway. AMD shot looks "too" sharp and blocky. I'm not saying one is better than the other as people have different tastes, but I wonder if Advanced DOF being run properly has anything to do with it. DOF can focus on a main point in a scene and blur out slightly things that aren't directly in focus. This also causes a pretty big performance hit it both AMD and Nvidia cards.

 

[MarcVenice]

Why buy a Camaro if the Mustang costs less and is faster? Why buy an Accord if the Sonata has a longer warranty and costs less? Why buy Kraft when store brand cost less? Why buy Tylenol when generics cost less? Why drink bottled water when tap water is almost free and they are 99.99% the same thing by volume and weight? Why use Post It™ notes when Staples house brand is cheaper?

Does everyone have to disclaimer all their purchases these days?

Maybe I liked the stock wheels better, or had a more helpful salesperson? Maybe I had a coupon? Maybe it tastes funny or doesn't fit exactly into the dispensor? Maybe I had a bad experience with unintended acceleration or a driver issue or an upset stomach a couple years ago and now don't "trust" it? Maybe I'm a long-time member of the Tiburon Enthusiast Group and wouldn't drive a VW GTI even if I were paid to? Maybe I like Grey Goose and think Smirnoff is for unsophisticated cheap bastards? Maybe the Reeboks clash with my jogging shorts but Asics match perfectly?

If they don't want to tell their reasoning, they don't have to zap. I can ask though...

Also, you comparison is kinda moot ... The gpu's do exactly the same, you don't eat them, you don't drive them, the experience in game x will be exactly the same, although you get 15% fps more with nvidia, for 25% more money and noise ... And that's exactly why I am asking.

It's irrational as some people put it, and if you don't want to explain yourself, don't, but if OCGUY likes to respond with something like: I wanted to get rid of my dual gtx 280's and get the fastest gpu I can buy, I'm enlightened a little

 

[LOUISSSSS]

You have to show both sides of the coin if you want to make a good point. What about the times when the GTX 480 is slower than the 5870? That's why the oft quoted 10-15&#37; faster is more accurate than saying sometimes it's 30% faster.

this is the perfect example of an nvidiot. one who chooses what he wants to see. and blocks out the fact that if a video card that costs $100 more, draws more power, is louder, and runs hotter isn't worth it especially if it can't outperform it by MORE than 30% across the board just to balance out its deficiencies. Getting a GTX 470/480 just isn't rational when the 5850 and 5870 are here.

If they don't want to tell their reasoning, they don't have to zap. I can ask though...

Also, you comparison is kinda moot ... The gpu's do exactly the same, you don't eat them, you don't drive them, the experience in game x will be exactly the same, although you get 15% fps more with nvidia, for 25% more money and noise ... And that's exactly why I am asking.

It's irrational as some people put it, and if you don't want to explain yourself, don't, but if OCGUY likes to respond with something like: I wanted to get rid of my dual gtx 280's and get the fastest gpu I can buy, I'm enlightened a little

agreed. Its even more irrational if you take into account the electricity bill over 1 year of usage (even if its idling 80% of the time) and also take into consideration the degradation of your PSU by loading it at higher loads.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Ya, NV is better optimized for Metro 2033...but in getting there, it runs the game at signficantly reduced image quality at the moment. Therefore, with current drivers, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-480_11.html#sect0

Fail fanboy:
http://hardocp.com/article/2010/04/06/metro_2033_image_quality_followup