GTX 980Ti finally launched - MSRP $649 - Reviews

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Annisman*

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Remember when 649$ was supposed to be the cream of the crop ? Such as the 8800 Ultra. Yes the 980ti is an awesome deal based on the Titan X price, but I can't help but think we are all getting hosed these days by Nvidia.
 

Cloudfire777

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Remember when 649$ was supposed to be the cream of the crop ? Such as the 8800 Ultra. Yes the 980ti is an awesome deal based on the Titan X price, but I can't help but think we are all getting hosed these days by Nvidia.

I remember the flagship GTX 580 from the Kepler series cost $499 back in 2010.

But what people don`t think about is that our salary have increased etc and don`t take inflation to consideration.
A $499 product in 2010 will cost $599 today. I think most people`s salary have kept pace with this increase in price, so GTX 980Ti at $649 isnt that bad as people may think.

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Remember when 649$ was supposed to be the cream of the crop ? Such as the 8800 Ultra. Yes the 980ti is an awesome deal based on the Titan X price, but I can't help but think we are all getting hosed these days by Nvidia.

I completely agree...

We had 28nm video cards for over 2 years from both nvidia and AMD... This process should be very mature, yet nvidia wants us to pay these sky high prices?
 

AnandThenMan

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That calculation appears to be in pounds, in the year 2010 $499 in U.S. dollars today would be about $540.
 

2is

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Remember when 649$ was supposed to be the cream of the crop ? Such as the 8800 Ultra. Yes the 980ti is an awesome deal based on the Titan X price, but I can't help but think we are all getting hosed these days by Nvidia.

True. While I'm strangely excited for a $650 price point, I also recognize this is due to "conditioning" where I'm expecting it to cost more. $650 is still a steep price for a GPU. My 680's were top of the line when I got them and they were $500, purchased on release day. Well the first one anyway, I got the second one used about a year later.
 

Cloudfire777

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That calculation appears to be in pounds, in the year 2010 $499 in U.S. dollars today would be about $540.
Oh yeah, you are right. So its about $100 more expensive, maybe less if salary have increased faster than inflation.

True. While I'm strangely excited for a $650 price point, I also recognize this is due to "conditioning" where I'm expecting it to cost more. $650 is still a steep price for a GPU. My 680's were top of the line when I got them and they were $500, purchased on release day. Well the first one anyway, I got the second one used about a year later.
Not really fair comparing a plastic 294mm2 mid-high end GTX 680 against a aluminum 601mm2 high end GTX 980Ti is it? Id say its probably worth that extra $150 :)
 
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ericloewe

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I remember the flagship GTX 580 from the Kepler series cost $499 back in 2010.

But what people don`t think about is that our salary have increased etc and don`t take inflation to consideration.
A $499 product in 2010 will cost $599 today. I think most people`s salary have kept pace with this increase in price, so GTX 980Ti at $649 isnt that bad as people may think.

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http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...tion-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html

That's cherry-picking. The UK had an unusually high inflation rate these past years.

For those numbers, you need 3.7ish%, which is well above what the US and the Eurozone experienced. Regarding the UK, wages were supposedly slow to catch up with inflation, which weakens your argument.
 

Head1985

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Oh yeah, you are right. So its about $100 more expensive, maybe less if salary have increased faster than inflation.


Not really fair comparing a plastic 294mm2 mid-high end GTX 680 against a aluminum 601mm2 high end GTX 980Ti is it? Id say its probably worth that extra $150 :)

But 980TI is not flagship its GTX570 successor
570 cost 349 at launch..
So its 300 more
 

Cloudfire777

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That's cherry-picking. The UK had an unusually high inflation rate these past years.

For those numbers, you need 3.7ish%, which is well above what the US and the Eurozone experienced. Regarding the UK, wages were supposedly slow to catch up with inflation, which weakens your argument.
Actually they were equal in 2014 in the UK

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2is

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Oh yeah, you are right. So its about $100 more expensive, maybe less if salary have increased faster than inflation.


Not really fair comparing a plastic 294mm2 mid-high end GTX 680 against a aluminum 601mm2 high end GTX 980Ti is it? Id say its probably worth that extra $150 :)

The 680 when released, was the fastest card you can buy, it wasn't mid-high end, there was nothing faster available. So yeah, I'd say it's a far comparison.
 

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But 980TI is not flagship its GTX570 successor
570 cost 349 at launch..
So its 300 more

the gtx580 wasn't the flagship the 1000$ ASUS ROG MARS II GTX 580 was.
Just like the gtx980ti isn't the flagship the 1000$ Titan X is.
I think we have another tier of performance now with the Titan card and Fury card(s)
 
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Cloudfire777

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The 680 when released, was the fastest card you can buy, it wasn't mid-high end, there was nothing faster available. So yeah, I'd say it's a far comparison.
I disagree. I think the premium of the build quality, that they use 2x as much silicon to manufacture a 980Ti etc should count.
 

96Firebird

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People can reminisce about the past all they want, it won't change anything that is happening now... The fact is, if you want 980 Ti performance with a single GPU, you're going to have to pay $650 (if the rumors are true). That is what happens when there is no competition in that segment. If you need or want that level of performance, you can either wait for AMD to finally launch their cards and hope prices drop, or buy the 980 Ti.
 

Mondozei

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Actually they were equal in 2014 in the UK

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From the period of 2010-2015, inflation has increased a lot faster in the UK than wages when you sum all the years. Also, the 2014 data is about end-year, not the full year. For full 2014, it was still an average net loss in terms of wages.

In the US, it's a little bit better(but not terribly much).

The bottom line is that even when controlling for inflation, the average MSRP for the "top end" GPU has gone up much more than it used to be. And nobody is winning on that.
 

Mondozei

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Don't be silly, multigpu is bad and you know it.

The real competitor will be fiji.

Who's being silly? Multi-GPUs are fine, I got them now and I have no issues.
If your best bet is to attack SLI/XFire then you've already lost the argument.

Multi-GPU vs single GPU - an invalid comparison.

A better comment. Fair, it's not a perfect comparison but in the end, what matters if the price you get and for what performance. At 620 vs 650 I'd concede that the 980 Ti is a better card. At the initial (rumored) 800 dollar price tag, no way.

Still, if the 295X2 drops to 550 or so, it'd be a compelling alternative, provided you know how to install a water-cooled GPU. AMD's Xfire drivers are today in better shape than Nvidia's SLI driver optimisation and have been so for years now.
 

96Firebird

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AMD's Xfire drivers are today in better shape than Nvidia's SLI driver optimisation and have been so for years now.

When comparing a 980 Ti to a 295X2, it doesn't matter how good or bad Nvidia's SLI drivers are... And if you're into gaming on day-one, multi-GPU isn't your friend.
 

2is

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I disagree. I think the premium of the build quality, that they use 2x as much silicon to manufacture a 980Ti etc should count.

We're all entitled to our opinion. It should count, so should the fact that it's still the same manufacturing process today as the 680 is using and costs to produce it are considerably less. Doesn't matter though, it is what it is and we don't need to convince each other.


People can reminisce about the past all they want, it won't change anything that is happening now... The fact is, if you want 980 Ti performance with a single GPU, you're going to have to pay $650 (if the rumors are true). That is what happens when there is no competition in that segment. If you need or want that level of performance, you can either wait for AMD to finally launch their cards and hope prices drop, or buy the 980 Ti.

True, I'm not really complaining just conversation. I plan on buying one if it is indeed $650 and i'm quick enough to add one to my cart.
 

96Firebird

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Anandtech's overclocking results look promising, looks like the cooler is lacking for OCing though.

True, I'm not really complaining just conversation. I plan on buying one if it is indeed $650 and i'm quick enough to add one to my cart.

Good luck to ya, I'd keep an eye out on the EVGA forums as sometimes their moderators let the members know when new cards are expected to go on sale.

I'm surprised the NDA for the reviews was lifted on a Sunday night. I mean, I know it is just before Computex, but I thought they'd wait till tomorrow...
 
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