GTX 980 Ti specifications - Teaser and benchmarks

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Brahmzy

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Again, I ain't buying it - nVidia will be the laughing stock if they sell a card that close to the 980. A lot of folks will jump ship to AMD's solution because they STILL will refuse to fork out $1K for a Titan X.
 

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As has been mentioned several times in this thread, these cards appear to simply be stop-gap measures till the real node shrinks arrive. I guess having never been spoiled by it I may not know what I'm missing. To me, if 95% of games coming out are "consolized" then why in God's name would I not simply sit on my 980 until the real node shrink comes. For me 4k is just silliness. When I see a card that can run it solo, then, maybe I'll think of running it. In short I think 1440P makes most sense if a person really wants to up fidelity and have the best experience possible. Really don't see it changing in the near future either; however, I would love to be surprised. Personally, I'm happy with 1200P for the foreseeable future.
 
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I don't follow 3d mark scores, but logic dictates that gap is too big between Titan X and 980 TI to be real. Case in point, the gap between the 980 and 970 isn't that large in percentage terms, yet the 970 has a higher amount of disabled cores.
 

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Again, I ain't buying it - nVidia will be the laughing stock if they sell a card that close to the 980. A lot of folks will jump ship to AMD's solution because they STILL will refuse to fork out $1K for a Titan X.

What do you expect ? Titan X is 30% faster than a 980, you want to slot something in between the two, this is about what you'll get. I never expected Titan X to be a full chip, once it released as such, it was clear it had to be done because even 30% is a little light of a step up from 980. The first Titan was about 40% faster than 680.

I think 390X is going to be the show stopper as far as the overall package. 980ti will just be a means of countering the 390X pricepoint for nvidia users which is almost certainly not going to be $1000 like the Titan X. I also think it's likely the 390X will be faster than Titan X, apart from in handicapped gameworks titles.

390X will in all likelihood be faster than 980ti in almost every case, but this has never cost nvidia a sale in the past at the same pricepoint. They will market the card on metrics other than performance and create some sort of manufactured relevancy of value other than actual performance numbers.
 

swilli89

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They will market the card on metrics other than performance and create some sort of manufactured relevancy of value other than actual performance numbers.

You're probably right. What's sad is that this is akin to a pharm company marketing their drug on something other than its effective healing powers. Well this drug won't cure or help with symptoms, but the bottle it comes in has a plastic that is twice as scratch resistant!
 

Grooveriding

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You're probably right. What's sad is that this is akin to a pharm company marketing their drug on something other than its effective healing powers. Well this drug won't cure or help with symptoms, but the bottle it comes in has a plastic that is twice as scratch resistant!

Fortunately many countries don't allow prescription drugs to be advertised, because unlike video cards, they should not be a product you purchase based on a desire that came out of being advertised to.

On the other hand a Titan X/980ti/390X will do no more harm than just lightening your wallet :D
 

swilli89

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Fortunately many countries don't allow prescription drugs to be advertised, because unlike video cards, they should not be a product you purchase based on a desire that came out of being advertised to.

On the other hand a Titan X/980ti/390X will do no more harm than just lightening your wallet :D
Amen brother.
 

Brahmzy

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^^ Exactly. This speculation on bogus "evidence" is tiresome. Amusing, but tiresome. Waiting for that NDA to lift.

For me 4k is just silliness.

I'm real sorry to hear that. I've been ejoying 4K for a while now. LOVE it actually :)

If I had that attitude of one card to do it all, I'd never have been able to run 1600p as long as I did (almost 8 years.) Woulda missed out on a lot of fun/productivity.
 

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In my mind the real competitor in terms of $/perf is in existing and used cards. Why would I upgrade to an $780 980 Ti when I can get more performance out of $400 (2x $200 used 290) 290 CF? Sure dual card frametimes are worse -- but they aren't $400 worse.

Especially considering a new 295x2 is $600.

Because crossfire sucks? Tell that to the people that bought 2 cards waiting to play the Witcher or any other AAA game that comes out that they have to wait for drivers for..Anyway only a fool would put a second spaceheater in there case.

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Brahmzy

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^^ Totally depends on the amount of pixels you're trying to drive. I chose to go 4K, I get to pay 4K dollars to do it, which means two of the new top end cards out right now. I'm hoping the 980ti's are fast enough to justify the price. If not, it looks like I'll have to fork for two Titan Xs.
 

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^^ Exactly. This speculation on bogus "evidence" is tiresome. Amusing, but tiresome. Waiting for that NDA to lift.



I'm real sorry to hear that. I've been ejoying 4K for a while now. LOVE it actually :)

If I had that attitude of one card to do it all, I'd never have been able to run 1600p as long as I did (almost 8 years.) Woulda missed out on a lot of fun/productivity.

This.

It only took us 15 years to consistently get better resolution than we had before on CRTs. Still awfully hard to beat a 2048x1536-85Hz CRT beast...

UWD 1440P and 4k are finally on the right track, as well as some with better than 60hz screens too. :)

Resolution >> AA tricks (but needs the GPU horsepower to run)
 

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In my mind the real competitor in terms of $/perf is in existing and used cards. Why would I upgrade to an $780 980 Ti when I can get more performance out of $400 (2x $200 used 290) 290 CF? Sure dual card frametimes are worse -- but they aren't $400 worse.

Especially considering a new 295x2 is $600.

They are to me. More often than not either CF/SLI is broken on day one with big game releases. Like posted up above, still no CF profile for TW3. SLI scaling isn't good either - 980 SLI is only just as fast as a single Titan X, and that doesn't factor in the superior frame times on a single TX setup.

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...e_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt-game-new-3840_u_off.jpg

IMHO, SLI/CF only makes sense when you can't get comparable performance from a single card. From that perspective, Titan X is the only card worth going SLI with right now.
 
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Brahmzy

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SLi 980 only as fast as single Titan X - now you're freakin smoking something, lol. Give it up.
 

alcoholbob

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SLi 980 only as fast as single Titan X - now you're freakin smoking something, lol. Give it up.

http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-RPG-The_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt-game-new-3840_u_off.jpg


He was referring specifically to Witcher 3 with the link he provided but didn't use img tags.

Witcher 3 only scales around 30%-40% which seems to be reason why Titan X is doing better than SLI 980. It's probably because the Witcher 3 is such a huge open world game that it's incredibly CPU bound and limiting SLI performance. Perhaps a forthcoming DX12 patch (if its even coming at all) will fix this issue. I'm running Titan X SLI with hairworks off and everything else maxed and average around 52-55fps, so that's about 40% better than the single Titan X clocked here.
 
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They are to me. More often than not either CF/SLI is broken on day one with big game releases. Like posted up above, still no CF profile for TW3. SLI scaling isn't good either - 980 SLI is only just as fast as a single Titan X, and that doesn't factor in the superior frame times on a single TX setup.

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...e_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt-game-new-3840_u_off.jpg

IMHO, SLI/CF only makes sense when you can't get comparable performance from a single card. From that perspective, Titan X is the only card worth going SLI with right now.

Fully agreed. Multi-GPU configs are a compromise and one that's only worthwhile with top tier GPUs.
 

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Because crossfire sucks? Tell that to the people that bought 2 cards waiting to play the Witcher or any other AAA game that comes out that they have to wait for drivers for..Anyway only a fool would put a second spaceheater in there case.

Nobody using CF is "waiting" to play a damn thing, seeing as you can just play in single GPU mode. CF works well, when there are drivers for it. Hey, it's even smoother than SLI is (but shh, Nvidia diehards here no longer bring up smoothness). Using multi-GPU comes with it's downsides. If you don't want to deal with it, stick with a single card like the vast majority of gamers do.
 

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If you don't want to deal with it, stick with a single card like the vast majority of gamers do.
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I did, a laptop/big screen TV with a 970m. :) The one below is slower than the laptop.
I might build another rig soon, mabe with skylake or a x99 setup with a 10/14nm gpu.
 
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As has been mentioned several times in this thread, these cards appear to simply be stop-gap measures till the real node shrinks arrive. I guess having never been spoiled by it I may not know what I'm missing. To me, if 95% of games coming out are "consolized" then why in God's name would I not simply sit on my 980 until the real node shrink comes. For me 4k is just silliness. When I see a card that can run it solo, then, maybe I'll think of running it. In short I think 1440P makes most sense if a person really wants to up fidelity and have the best experience possible. Really don't see it changing in the near future either; however, I would love to be surprised. Personally, I'm happy with 1200P for the foreseeable future.

The most shocking part is NV convinced the PC gaming market that it can release many high-priced "flagships" in the same generation and sell all of them.

Telsa/GT200 series - GTX280 and 285. One priced at $649, quickly dropped to $499 and the second was just $399.

Fermi - we only got 480 and 580. That's it, both priced at $499. If you got a 480 on day 1, well you have 90% of the flagship performance for the entire 2 years when both 480 and 580 were overclocked. Not a bad deal in hindsight. Today's $500 "flagship" card means diddly squat.

Kepler
$499 680
$999 OG Titan
$649 780/780Ghz edition
$699 780Ti
$999 Titan Black

5 "flagships"! This is too funny.

Maxwell
$549 980
$999 Titan (but now it's just a 100% gaming card with double the VRAM. :hmm:)
$699 (?) 980Ti (but it's now a neutered version much like the 780 was)

^ This 980Ti card would normally be a $349 GTX470/570. Now gamers are saying "I really hope it's only $699, not $750!" LMAO :p

We should probably expect a fully unlocked 980Ti Metal Edition/Black Edition come Q3/Q4 2015 as the last Maxwell hurrah but maybe we'll even see another Titan V2 with higher clocks 1H 2016. NV has truly made it into a marketing art-form to milk the generation for all its worth!

While the gamers are splitting hairs if 980TI is 1-3% within the Titan X or within 5-10%, JHH can't believe it that he doubled the price of a cut-down GTX470/570 successor and can now sell it for $699 all day because there is a "mythetical" marketing beast in the Titan brand, which itself is no longer even a true compute card. This is toooo good!! Tom Peterson and the NV PR/marketing execs are getting massive bonus this gen. :biggrin:

Where does it end? $599 GP204 mid-range and $899 780Ti/980Ti successor, Titan brand moving to $1199-1299 with Pascal? I got 1.5-2 years to buy enough varieties of popcorn to enjoy the show. At least by then the steam library of console ports will have grown and possibly, just possibly we might see more than 3 FreeSync and 3 GSync 4K monitors 32" and higher.

Still, credit needs to be given where its due. After-market cards like MSI Lightning and EVGA Classified 980Tis should be very attractive against the $1K Titan X. At least the GPU market is moving forward at a decent pace. The same cannot be said of the CPU space where 15-17% IPC increase every 2-2.5 years from Intel are the holly grail of "revolutionary" performance increases ;) If AMD or NV released a next gen GPU with only 15% more performance than their 2 year old part, it would have been viewed as a total disaster. The prices for latest GPU tech are high, but if you wait 15-24 months, you can usually get 35-70% more performance (and double in 3 years). In the CPU space, that's wishful thinking! Skylake is shaping up to be a total yawn fest compared to even 980 --> 980Ti/Fiji XT.
 
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