GTX 980 Ti specifications - Teaser and benchmarks

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Jaydip

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One thing is very interesting IMO, they are releasing a slower card than Titan X to combat the 390/X.I think unless NV knows something they would never do that or all these scores are bogus.
 

Head1985

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Yeah, I sure miss the days of yore when you could buy video card just below the top tier for under $300 and get 80-95% performance. 5850/5870/460 anyone? Those were the days. As I said, this is getting ridiculous, I'd rather give up gaming than spend $800 on a videocard. $800 can buy me a lot of things that will give me a lot more enjoyment than extra 15-20fps in a game.
I agree.
 

RussianSensation

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The Witcher 3 runs like [redacted] on my 3 6GB Titans @ 4k/60Hz so I really need to upgrade at this point.

That has nothing to do with VRAM. That's because Kepler tanks in GW titles (TW3 is one of those). Even a 280X 3GB beats a Titan 6GB at 4K in that game, which means VRAM has nothing to do with your poor performance.

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The only reputable benchmark I've seen where 4GB of VRAM becomes an issue at 4K is in Company of Heroes with 8xMSAA. Even in GTA V, 970 SLI >>> Titan X 12GB.
 
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boozzer

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That has nothing to do with VRAM. That's because Kepler tanks in GW titles (TW3 is one of those). Even a 280X 3GB beats a Titan 6GB at 4K in that game, which means VRAM has nothing to do with your poor performance.

http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-RPG-The_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt-game-new-3840_u_off.jpg

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The only reputable benchmark I've seen where 4GB of VRAM becomes an issue at 4K is in Company of Heroes with 8xMSAA. Even in GTA V, 970 SLI >>> Titan X 12GB.
that is not just sad, that is down right insulting. I wonder what % of the kepler owners would realize this and switch their brand :thumbsup:
 

RussianSensation

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that is not just sad, that is down right insulting. I wonder what % of the kepler owners would realize this and switch their brand :thumbsup:

I bet very few. NV customers tend to be very loyal and they'll chuck this one to Kepler architecture just becoming outdated. Oh well. The reasons don't really matter imo as it's simply not acceptable based on how quickly 780/780Ti/Titan lost their performance advantages and really became slow in just 1.5-2 years given their $650-1000 prices. If this happened to me, on top of 970 marketing fiasco and how NV responded and treated 970 customers, I would not buy an NV card this round to teach them a lesson at least once.

But see, even the 970 fiasco is already forgotten. It seems NV can do no wrong.

One thing is very interesting IMO, they are releasing a slower card than Titan X to combat the 390/X.I think unless NV knows something they would never do that or all these scores are bogus.

Based on VC's leaks, 980TI is only 1-2% slower than the Titan X. For all intents and purposes, their gaming performance is identical.

Also, it's par for the course for NV to release a new card by now as 980 has been fully milked for $550 for 8 months. It's not unusual for NV to release a consumer gaming card that's nearly as fast as the Titan Brand not far from the Titan's launch. This already happened last generation with 780Ghz.

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Headfoot

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I'm expecting 980ti to have 5.5 + .5 configuration. Good thing 5.5 is "plenty" for 1440p. Someone tell me 5.5gb is plenty for 1440p. What's the highest GTAV hits? 3.8 to 4gb or so? Also, maybe I can get away with one of these, but then again, that's just not as much fun now is it?

5.5 GB is plenty. 3.5 on the 970 seems to be enough far more often than not
 

xthetenth

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But see, even the 970 fiasco is already forgotten. It seems NV can do no wrong.

Not for everyone. I've got a 970 that won't be in my case a month after pascal drops, guaranteed, and it's not getting replaced with another card I'd expect to go the way of Kepler. Instead I'm going to be timing the market for an AMD card and freesync screen.

I very seriously doubt that NV will 970 the 980Ti's memory though, when there's a good chance they'll be competing on memory and there's decent odds the memory subsystem will get some scrutiny.
 
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Jaydip

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@RS I think 780 Ghz came out after 780Ti to combat the 290.They released 780 Ti only after 290X came out , so it is little weird this time.
 

thilanliyan

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If 4GB was enough for 4k gaming I would go with that, but since it's not and I already have 3 6GB Titans, I have no choice but to go with Nvidia this time around.

The Witcher 3 runs like shit on my 3 6GB Titans @ 4k/60Hz so I really need to upgrade at this point.

It's not how much ram you have...it's how you use it... :p

You're ASSUMING that 4GB will definitely cripple the 390X or whatever it's called at 4K+ resolutions...I wouldn't necessarily make that assumption, considering this is a brand new type of memory they are trying.

Also, I wouldn't blame the Witcher 3 running like crap on THREE (!!) Titans on the amount of ram it has (as RS pointed out above)... ;)
You should ask nVidia why 3 formerly $1K cards is running a game, that is actually not the most graphically demanding game ever made, like crap.
 
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cusideabelincoln

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It really is a shame that Fiji is only going to be 4gb and is shaping up to cost as much as the 980 TI. No matter how great AMD optimizes their vram resource management, the "initial" shock of "only" having 4gb is going to last just like throttling r9 290x initial reviews.

One can only imagine what prices would be like today if hd7970's initial release had much better drivers. GTX680 wouldn't have been able to launch at $499, and $1,000 Titan would not have been created at the time. The transition to higher prices is complete. Just like when AMD transitioned the x870 (with the hd6870) to be midrange, the GTX x80 (gtx680 / gtx980) is the new "midrange" product numeration but with higher prices.

AMD better have solid drivers for the 390x launch. They have not had a really major driver update since Omega six months ago. What the hell have they been doing in the meantime? I hope it's been optimizing memory management, and I hope that it applies to their full lineup of cards and not just Fiji.
 

RussianSensation

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@RS I think 780 Ghz came out after 780Ti to combat the 290.They released 780 Ti only after 290X came out , so it is little weird this time.

Officially "branded" Ghz, sure. But as of June 2013, you could already buy a 780 gaming card as fast as the Titan X for ~$699.

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With extra TDP headroom from 2816 shaders and 6GB of GDDR5, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if after-market 980Ti cards match the Titan X or even beat it for $699.

Well before 780Ti, after-market 780 cards made the Titan irrelevant.

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As a bonus, it ran far cooler and quieter than the reference blower Titan cooler!

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Look at the benchmarks today and you'll see the OG Titan 6GB is not really faster than an after-market 780 to the point where it made it any more future-proof.

Think about it, the minute there are EVGA Classified and MSI Lightning 980Ti cards that can hit 1.5-1.6Ghz on air, it's game over for the Titan X. You'd only be able to keep up if you throw a water-block on the Titan X and have custom BIOS going. Plus, a reference Titan X > 1.45Ghz is loud and runs at 85-86C. 980Ti will make the Titan obsolete for most high-end gamers just like the 780 did. This is especially true this generation since we are in a stop-gap gen between 14nm/16nm and HBM2. That means buy a 980Ti/390 series, save some $ and upgrade to Pascal again. The Titan X won't outlast the 980Ti. The Titan X owners won't care since they wanted the bragging rights but everyone else who waited out for the 980Ti will be rewarded! ;)
 
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Cloudfire777

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I just can't buy the idea yet that memory speed and bandwidth will compensate for buffer size.

AMD can make the sale, though. :cool:
We shall see, we shall see. :)
They have a lot to prove thats for sure. They said they found a lot of problems with current memory management, so like Mantle they might force Nvidia to optimize GDDR5 management for their cards as well.
 

YSK

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Leaked GTX 980Ti with 2816 CUDA cores

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Can't wait when it come with Lightning or Matrix
 

Cloudfire777

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Is it me or is the Metal Design on Titan/Ti cards starting to get old?
Fiji looks much better from what I`ve seen so far
 

.vodka

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I'm more concerned about seeing the same blower again.


GM200 in the Titan X isn't cooled well enough by that blower. The GPUs used in that are probably better binned / need less voltage than the cut down GM200s in the 980Ti. 256 less cores plus whatever else has been cut + higher voltage / worse quality chips = higher power consumption than the full X (this behavior can be seen on the 980/970, 290x/290 and on previous flagships/cut down flagships etc)... on an already strained cooling solution. If these clockspeeds are true (1GHz for the 980Ti) then this is probably not going to be a quiet card.

Aftermarket cards should be completely different.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, I hope this isn't a repeat of the 970.
 
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Riceninja

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im not really feeling this 5.5gb ram. sure it's enough but still leaves a nasty taste.

i hope this trend of "cut down" cards having segmented ram doesn't continue in the future, but realistically speaking its practical for nvidia.
 

moonbogg

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Damn, it makes me sick to see the Titan getting beat by a 280x, which is basically a rebranded 7970ghz if I remember right. That makes me hesitant to get excited about taking pride in owning a pair of 980ti's. Its hard to see them as anything but really expensive junk in 18 months from now. This sucks.
Seriously, its like a kick to the gut to see this and I didn't even buy these things.
 
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AdamK47

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I like the fact that nVidia made sure the Titan continued to be the top dog this time around.
 

Ranulf

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Semi OT, I just noticed most of the gtx 900 cards on newegg no longer offer the Witcher/Batman game deal. I see some on Amazon still do though.