Gtx 750ti or gtx 960 for a smooth medium setting gameplay

[lehtv]

In my experience OEM psu's are very good quality. I bought many Dells in my past.

Experience isn't a measure of quality

 

[iiiankiii]

In my experience OEM psu's are very good quality. I bought many Dells in my past.

Interesting, I have the exact opposite experience. None of OEM PSU were able to handle a GPU upgrade with a PCIE connector. Some were able to run the GPU but die shortly after. Some would shutdown immediately on load. Most of these PCs were rated at "300" to "350" watts. The GPUs were rated around the TDP of the GTX 960.

Plus, don't forget to factor in the age of the computer. We're talking about a PSU that's atleast 4-5 years old. That old age plus pushing the system to the PSU's peak really makes it a crap shoot. Not worth the risk.

 

[happy medium]

while gaming the gtx960 uses an average of 104 watts, his psu if I google the right one has 2 rails at 12 amps and 16 amps, that is plenty for a gtx960.

If his psu cant handle 104 watts then it wont handle a gtx750ti (70watts ) either. but it will.

"•Average: Metro: Last Light at 1920x1080 because it is representative of a typical gaming power draw"

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_950_Xtreme_Gaming/28.html

 

[veltix]

@Russian Sensation
So in other words, you're saying i shud get a good quality psu 400w and a gtx 950 or 960. Last 1 and 2 yrs, get a better rig.

 

[frozentundra123456]

If it has a 6 pin connector, yes.

Give me a link to your HP computer, I'll will check psu to be sure.

Or the model number.

edit: you cpu pulls 73 watts, gtx960 120watts, hard drive and motherboard 20 watts on the +12v rail. Thats ~ 215 watts, but your entire system never runs 100% so you should be fine.

If you don't have a 6 pin connector on your psu, just use a 4pin to 6 pin connector for 4$.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200106

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Well, I agree that it would *probably* be OK with a 960, but that is a pretty old CPU, and I assume the power supply is pretty old as well. So I would not risk it. Just get a 750Ti. It should play every game at medium or better, 1080p, and you wont have to worry about a 6 pin connector or jury rigging molex adapters.

 

[iiiankiii]

while gaming the gtx960 uses an average of 104 watts, his psu if I google the right one has 2 rails at 12 amps and 16 amps, that is plenty for a gtx960.

If his psu cant handle 104 watts then it wont handle a gtx750ti (70watts ) either. but it will.

"•Average: Metro: Last Light at 1920x1080 because it is representative of a typical gaming power draw"

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_950_Xtreme_Gaming/28.html

Again, don't look at those numbers. A lot of times, those OEM PSU are grossly misrepresented. Would not trust the Oem PSU at all. Plus. A gtx 960 consumes DOUBLE the wattages (~120 vs ~60). That's night and day when it comes to these OEM PSU.

Then, you have to deal with the CPu bottleneck of a dual core i5 650 holding back a gtx 960. Not looking good.

 

[veltix]

@frozentundra123456
Okay. But for past 2 yrs im using 7770 sapphire is it equal to gtx 750ti?

 

[frozentundra123456]

Hmm, hard to find comparison data on those low end cards. 750Ti is maybe 30 to 50 percent faster than a HD7770, and usually overclocks fairly well. It also has a extra gb of vram which is important in newer games. To me, it is borderline if it is a worthwhile upgrade over a HD7770 though.

But I am a bit confused. Are you using a HD7770 with the OEM power supply? HD 7770 does require a six pin connector. How unsatisfied are you with the HD7770?

 

[RaistlinZ]

A 750 Ti is faster: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1130?vs=1079

I don't think a 960 is the best option, since your CPU is a bottleneck.

Go small or go big... meaning a 750Ti, or a complete new system. Anything in between is diminishing returns.

 

[iiiankiii]

@frozentundra123456
Okay. But for past 2 yrs im using 7770 sapphire is it equal to gtx 750ti?

wait.. your OP said you're using a 5540. If you're using a 7770HD in that system, you might get away with a GTX 960 in that system because the power consumption is similar. That also means you've got a pcie 6 pin connector because a 7700 requires the 6 pin connector. However, your CPU is still going to hold back the GTX 960. That means you're not going to get the optimal performance out of your GTX 960. As a result, you're justing wasting money.

Again, as many suggested, GTX 750TI or full system upgrade.

 

[veltix]

@iiiankiii

Can the cpu of hp p6680d is swapable? To i7 920? If change to i7 920 and get new psu. What gpu can i7 920 handle?

 

[tential]

@Russian Sensation
So in other words, you're saying i shud get a good quality psu 400w and a gtx 950 or 960. Last 1 and 2 yrs, get a better rig.

Huh? Is there some limiting reason why you're stuck to such a small psu?

 

[iiiankiii]

@iiiankiii

Can the cpu of hp p6680d is swapable? To i7 920? If change to i7 920 and get new psu. What gpu can i7 920 handle?

MOTHERBOARD:
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
Intel Core i7-8xx (Lynnfield core)
Intel Core i5-7xx (Lynnfield core)
Intel Core i5-6xx (Clarkdale core)
Intel Core i3-5xx (Clarkdale core)

 

[veltix]

@tential
Would the i5 650 hold back 950,if change psu? As a temp solution. Until i get a good $1500/$2000rig?

 

[AtenRa]

You can also consider the R7 360 2GB.

It should be a lot better for your CPU for BF4 and Hardline by using Mantle.

You will also not need a new PSU with the R7 360 and it will be adequate playing those games at medium/high settings until you will build a new system.

 

[veltix]

@@AtenRa
Can play mgsv pp, tomb raider,ac unity?

 

[AtenRa]

By the way Mantle is terrible and not many games support it.

Have you played BF4 with Mantle ??? or any other game supporting Mantle with a slow CPU ??

 

[iiiankiii]

Here's a good stop gap solution:

-grab cpu off ebay: i5-760 ~$45 or i7-870 ~$80

-new power supply: up to you. You can get a solid 500-600 watts and use it on your next PC. ~$60

-GTX 960: ~$200

Total: ~$400-$450

Remember that your CPU is too weak for anything stronger than a GTX 750TI. There's no way around it. Upgrade cpu and psu to use a GTX 950/960 or grab a GTX 750TI.

 

[veltix]

@iiiankiii

A psu of 300w and i5 650 able to support: (1) r7 250x (Y/N) (2)gtx 750ti (Y/N) (3) r7 360 (y/n) (4) r7 260x (Y/N)?
Will it bottleneck the games or lagging. Will be running on med/high no aa. Achievable to 60fps or lesser than that?
Games are: mgsvpp,bf3,4,hardline. Mw3,aw,ghost and bo2. Crysis3 and ac unity.

 

[iiiankiii]

@iiiankiii

A psu of 300w and i5 650 able to support: (1) r7 250x (Y/N) (2)gtx 750ti (Y/N) (3) r7 360 (y/n) (4) r7 260x (Y/N)?
Will it bottleneck the games or lagging. Will be running on med/high no aa. Achievable to 60fps or lesser than that?
Games are: mgsvpp,bf3,4,hardline. Mw3,aw,ghost and bo2. Crysis3 and ac unity.

Sorry, (1) r7 250x (Y/N) (2)gtx 750ti (Y/N) (3) r7 360 (y/n) (4) r7 260x are not good enough to do 60fps in all of those games. If you want that, you're going to have to upgrade. It looks like you have no cheap option. The cheapest option is going to cost you around $400 (i5-760, PSU, GTX 960).

 

[Headfoot]

The best you can do on that PSU and CPU is going to be a 750 Ti. You're not going to get 60fps @ 1080p on all of those games unless you turn down settings. I dont know what resolution you are playing at though so it might be even less.

I wouldnt risk the 960 on an old oem PSU like that. I agree that its either new build or 750 ti, otherwise its diminishing returns.

 

[Seba]

Can a gtx 750ti play bf3,bf4, bf hardline, crysis3, metro last light, codaw and ghost, and tomb raider. For a smooth meduim settings gameplay 60fps? Or get a gtx 960?

Current specs: i5 650 3.2ghz, hd 5540 (soon to replace gpu),8gb ram, 300w(hp prebuild) or 300+w.

There is no HD 5540. Maybe you meant HD 5450.

While GTX 750 or GTX 750 Ti wil not get you 60 fps in all games, a card like that (GTX 750/750 Ti) would be a massive increase in performance (more than 10 times) over your current HD 5450. And such a graphics card may work with your power supply.

 

[IllogicalGlory]

Those games are very playable with a 750 Ti (most should get close to 60 with adjusted settings), it's a fine match for your CPU, it's a huge leap over a 5450 and your PSU can handle it. It's also faster than the other options you posted; just make sure you get one that doesn't require a PCI-E power connector. It's basically your perfect choice.

 

[RussianSensation]

@Russian Sensation
So in other words, you're saying i shud get a good quality psu 400w and a gtx 950 or 960. Last 1 and 2 yrs, get a better rig.

No, I am saying get a 750Ti/950/960, skip the PSU for now. Also, I would never recommend a 400W PSU because the incremental price to go from 400W to 650W is very minimal and a 650-700W PSU will last for 10+ years, give you a peace of mind for 98%+ of CPU/GPU upgrades and overclocking should you ever venture into that area as you may developer desire to explore that aspect of PC DIY building.

Usually the difference in price today between a high-quality 450W, 550W and 650W PSU is just $10-20. It's not worth it at all to buy 400-500W PSUs, with one possible exception being a desire to have a fanless platinum 500-520W unit.

You could try a GTX950/960 and see if it works. Those GPUs with your CPU do not use a lot of power. If you can find a GTX750Ti for $100, that's a solid upgrade from what you have for basic 1080P gaming.

P.S. With barely any research, here is proof why buying 400W PSUs is a waste of money for US customers.

Newegg.com has 750W XFX Core Edition 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply (P1-750S-NLB9) for $74.99 - $5 w/ promo code EMCKAAS23 - $35 rebate = $34.99. Shipping is Free.

Newegg.com has 850 Watt XFX Core Edition PRO850W 80 Plus Bronze Certified Active PFC Power Supply (P1-850S-NLB9) for $84.99 - $35 rebate = $49.99. Shipping is Free. This unit is a rebadged SeaSonic which is a top tier PSU manufacturer.

$35-50 over 10 years is not that expensive if you think about it. Just something for you to keep in mind when you decide to do a full system overhaul in 2-3 years. A lot people keep sticking to 300-430W garbage PSUs for years and get ripped off by massive price premiums for perf/watt GPUs which is a brilliant strategy on behalf of GPU makers but a horrible strategy for a PC gamer.

 

[veltix]

@Seba
So at most gtx 750ti i can get the get to have 30-40/50fps. The following games on medium.