Gtx 750ti or gtx 960 for a smooth medium setting gameplay

[veltix]

Can a gtx 750ti play bf3,bf4, bf hardline, crysis3, metro last light, codaw and ghost, and tomb raider. For a smooth meduim settings gameplay 60fps? Or get a gtx 960?

Current specs: i5 650 3.2ghz, hd 5540 (soon to replace gpu),8gb ram, 300w(hp prebuild) or 300+w.

 

[AtenRa]

Because of your CPU (2C 4T) i would go for the R9 380 and use Mantle.

 

[Keysplayr]

What resolution OP?

Off the bat, and out of these two, I would say 960 due to you listing Crysis 3.

Battlefield hardline
http://www.techspot.com/review/979-battlefield-hardline-benchmarks/page3.html

Battlefield 4
http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page3.html

Battlefield 3 - dont' even worry about it.

Crysis 3
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/01/26/msi-geforce-gtx-960-gaming-2g-review/5

Metro last Light
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-960-gaming-oc-review,16.html

Any CoD game at 1080 to 1440 you will be fine.

Tomb Raider
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-960-gaming-oc-review,13.html

 

[tviceman]

Get the 960 unless you get a great (<$100) deal on a 750 TI. Both cards overclock effortlessly really well, so in the end you might be happier going with the 960 (which will also give you better than medium settings at 60fps.

Don't get the 380, your PSU will be suspect and the 380 will draw way more power than the 960, potentially putting your components at risk.

 

[Charlie98]

I wouldn't spend any money on a GPU until you replace that HP PSU. Even a Corsair CX430 (found on sale often for ~$20 or so, AR) will be more reliable than the OEM PSU... and then I would worry about the GPU.

I would take the GTX960, by the way.

 

[Mondozei]

I have to chime in and say that yes, get a PSU upgrade first. You can get a decent PSU on aftermarket/used sales for a small price. I wouldn't play with that piece of junk, you're testing fate.

 

[veltix]

@Mondozei
A better brand psu and a 380. Can 380 max high no aa run 60fps?

 

[tg2708]

@Mondozei
A better brand psu and a 380. Can 380 max high no aa run 60fps?

to be fair the 960 should run most of those medium to high with no AA, but the major advantage the 380 has is the extra 2gb of ram. 960 is the better overall package when you consider all the sum of its parts, less noise less heat etc., but that's speaking of all nvidia cards keeping in mind I have an r9 290.

 

[Zodiark1593]

If you search around, you may find a 960 close to the $160 mark which would make it an easy reccommendation even compared with AMD. Some models may require an 8 pin power connection, but with the adaptor and a little guesswork, runs just fine off the single six on most low end PSUs.

 

[veltix]

If you search around, you may find a 960 close to the $160 mark which would make it an easy reccommendation even compared with AMD. Some models may require an 8 pin power connection, but with the adaptor and a little guesswork, runs just fine off the single six on most low end PSUs.

Say friend, what is the recommended power supply for 380 to run?

 

[frozentundra123456]

With on overclocked less efficient quad core cpu, you might be able to get away with a 750Ti with your current psu. It also does not require an aux six pin connector.

Anything higher and definitely upgrade the psu. I think either 960 or 380 would be a good choice. The 960 is more efficient, but I still would not try to run it on the OEM psu.

 

[Keysplayr]

Agree about upgrading the PSU for sure.

 

[RussianSensation]

Can a gtx 750ti play bf3,bf4, bf hardline, crysis3, metro last light, codaw and ghost, and tomb raider. For a smooth meduim settings gameplay 60fps? Or get a gtx 960?

Current specs: i5 650 3.2ghz, hd 5540 (soon to replace gpu),8gb ram, 300w(hp prebuild) or 300+w.

Your CPU is a major bottleneck in some of the titles which you desire to play.

i5 650 < i3 2100 It might be surprising to you how an i5 is slower than an i3 but in that generation, the i5 650 was a dual-core hyper-threaded CPU, not a quad-core.

Now look at where the faster i3-2100 ends up -- especially the minimums are poor.

I would NOT go with an AMD GPU for your dual-core processor. Here is an example of why based on one game you mentioned:

I would probably buy a $145 950 or a $160 960 and after scrap your entire rig and do a DIY build once you save up $.

Don't bother upgrading the PSU as your CPU+950/960 won't even touch 200W of total power. This is the total system power usage with a 130W TDP 5960X and a GTX950/960:

You can buy a new PSU in 2-3 years when you decide to do a complete system overhaul. Right now your CPU is such a huge anchor that anything above a 950/960 will be wasted in many games so there is no point wasting extra $ on your outdated rig.

You are in a tough position because BF multi-player is also very CPU intensive. So no matter what $100+ GPU you buy, you'll be CPU limited in some areas where the game engine/AI hammers the dual-core CPU and minimums plummet.

 

[iSkylaker]

I have a GTX 750Ti, and tested with a i5-4670K of a friend few weeks ago. I was impressed with the performance of this little thing, on BF4 and BF3, It could drive constant 60fps/1080p at Medium and some High with no problem, some lows at times to the mid 50s. I really expected worse results, but I agree with others stretch your budget for a GTX 960.

 

[RussianSensation]

I have a GTX 750Ti, and tested with a i5-4670K of a friend few weeks ago. I was impressed with the performance of this little thing, on BF4 and BF3, It could drive constant 60fps/1080p at Medium and some High with no problem, some lows at times to the mid 50s. I really expected worse results, but I agree with others stretch your budget for a GTX 960.

Ya, that CPU is 75%-2.5X faster in some of the games he mentioned compared to an i5-650 and that directly impacts the minimum fps at 1080P. The OP needs to have realistic expectations with a 950/960 going in.

 

[iiiankiii]

Ya, that CPU is 75%-2.5X faster in some of the games he mentioned compared to an i5-650 and that directly impacts the minimum fps at 1080P. The OP needs to have realistic expectations with a 950/960 going in.

I agree. The CPU the OP has sucks. It will bottleneck the GTX 960 for sure. It would be a waste of money to pair it with a i5 650. Plus, you that PSU sucks, too. At this point, I would'nt touch a GTX 960. Not only do you have to upgrade the PSU, you'll also have to upgrade the CPU to take full advatange of the GTX 960.

I would just stick with a GTX 750TI with your computer. You'll be less likely to be bottlenecked by the CPU and you don't have to upgrade the PSU.

Honestly, I think the gTX 750TI is the best you can do with your system. Normally, I would recommend a CPU upgrade. But, being an HP prebuilt, compatibility would be an issue. Of course, I could be wrong. If you can drop in a CPU replacement in that motherboard, a i5-760 or i5-870 would allow you to use a GTX 960.

You can grab a used i5-750/760 for about $40. Or a used i7-870 for about $70. Basically, to use the GTX 960 to its fulliest, you're looking at a CPU and PSU upgrade. At this point, it's too close to a full upgrade.

 

[BFG10K]

Because of your CPU (2C 4T) i would go for the R9 380 and use Mantle.

What utterly nonsensical advise. Only two games of the ones he listed support Mantle, and both are slower than D3D.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/24/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_video_card_review/8#.VhCHcHmheHs
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015..._performance_video_card_review/4#.VhCGbnmheHs

Also the 380 doesn't even have Mantle optimizations, and never will. From the mouth of AMD :

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/12

The situation then is that in discussing the performance results of the R9 Fury X with Mantle, AMD has confirmed that while they are not outright dropping Mantle support, they have ceased all further Mantle optimization. Of particular note, the Mantle driver has not been optimized at all for GCN 1.2, which includes not just R9 Fury X, but R9 285, R9 380, and the Carrizo APU as well. Mantle titles will probably still work on these products – and for the record we can’t get Civilization: Beyond Earth to play nicely with the R9 285 via Mantle – but performance is another matter. Mantle is essentially deprecated at this point, and while AMD isn’t going out of their way to break backwards compatibility they aren’t going to put resources into helping it either. The experiment that is Mantle has come to an end.

No developer is going to perpetually patch their games every time AMD releases new cards, especially not when AMD's own driver developers have dropped the API like a hot potato.

I pointed out long ago Mantle would be a failure. I still remember the comments in the Mantle threads ("just wait until it's out of beta and fully open, it'll be a success!"). Uh-huh, we all know who was right about that one.

Yet you continue to be very persistent with pushing the API. Why is that, may I ask?

 

[veltix]

Your CPU is a major bottleneck in some of the titles which you desire to play.

i5 650 < i3 2100 It might be surprising to you how an i5 is slower than an i3 but in that generation, the i5 650 was a dual-core hyper-threaded CPU, not a quad-core.

Now look at where the faster i3-2100 ends up -- especially the minimums are poor.

I would NOT go with an AMD GPU for your dual-core processor. Here is an example of why based on one game you mentioned:

I would probably buy a $145 950 or a $160 960 and after scrap your entire rig and do a DIY build once you save up $.

Don't bother upgrading the PSU as your CPU+950/960 won't even touch 200W of total power. This is the total system power usage with a 130W TDP 5960X and a GTX950/960:

You can buy a new PSU in 2-3 years when you decide to do a complete system overhaul. Right now your CPU is such a huge anchor that anything above a 950/960 will be wasted in many games so there is no point wasting extra $ on your outdated rig.

You are in a tough position because BF multi-player is also very CPU intensive. So no matter what $100+ GPU you buy, you'll be CPU limited in some areas where the game engine/AI hammers the dual-core CPU and minimums plummet.

I'm just for casual playing. Playing bf3,bf4,bfbc2, hardline. Mw3,ghost and aw. Mgsv pp. Ac unity. Not hardcore.

 

[FX2000]

But now we have Vulkan. Basicly AMD grew the potatoes, and Vulkan baked them nicely. Once again, AMD supports everyone, not only their own customers .
OP : Your old i5 (45nm?) is verrrry old. Dropping in an FX6300 atleast, would be to your advantage.

 

[happy medium]

don't waste money upgrading your psu, just buy a gtx960. at most the 380 will give you a few fps more speed but with your cpu the gtx960 will be faster. The 380 is slower with slower cpu's and cost at least 30$ more.

this gtx960 uses a single 6 pin connector.
You can pick up a factory overclocked gtx960 for 159.99 AR.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127844

 

[veltix]

@happy medium
Can a 300w able to run it?

 

[happy medium]

@happy medium
Can a 300w able to run it?

If it has a 6 pin connector, yes.

Give me a link to your HP computer, I'll will check psu to be sure.

Or the model number.

edit: you cpu pulls 73 watts, gtx960 120watts, hard drive and motherboard 20 watts on the +12v rail. Thats ~ 215 watts, but your entire system never runs 100% so you should be fine.

If you don't have a 6 pin connector on your psu, just use a 4pin to 6 pin connector for 4$.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200106

 

[veltix]

@happy medium
http://support.hp.com/rs-en/document/c02542172

 

[iiiankiii]

If it has a 6 pin connector, yes.

Give me a link to your HP computer, I'll will check psu to be sure.

Or the model number.

edit: you cpu pulls 73 watts, gtx960 120watts, hard drive and motherboard 20 watts on the +12v rail. Thats ~ 215 watts, but your entire system never runs 100% so you should be fine.

If you don't have a 6 pin connector on your psu, just use a 4pin to 6 pin connector for 4$.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200106

Bro, you're nuts to recommend a GTX 960 on a janky OEM HP PSU. That's nuts, man. Remember that "300 watts" might be the peak output. Plus, we have no idea how many ampere per rails. Bottom line, if it doesn't have a 6 pin pcie cable, don't chance it. The quality on these OEM PSU is highly suspect.

Don't get me wrong. I do believe a QUALITY 300 watt single rail PSU would be able to handle a GTX 960 just fine. But, not the OEM PSU. That OLD JANKY PSU might just take out his entire system along with it. It's just isn't worth the risk.

Considering that he said he's just a casual gamer, a GTX 750TI is a much better fit for HIS current system.

 

[happy medium]

But, not the OEM PSU

In my experience OEM psu's are very good quality. I bought many Dells in my past.