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GTX 560 ( SE ) Review: Mid Range Maddness

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I came in here all ready to say this card is pointless for as long as the 6850 exists, and then I saw the prices on Newegg... Wtf? Why is it so expensive over there? Here in europe, the 6850 costs 130€, with the 560SE being 160€ (same price as the 6870, so it gets owned again)

AMD pretty much owns the midrange market, in a nutshell

Anyway, its hard to recommend anything below a 7850 nowadays, its just too damn good once overclocked... But for stock users, the 6850 still has the best price/performance
 
The 6850, 6870, and GTX 560 are certainly not bad cards in their price bracket. The 1gb of vram is their biggest limitation IMO. They're really not cut out for SLI/Crossfire.
 
Gordon Freemen said:
Them trolls need to put there money where there mouth is and buy both a 6850 and 560 SE review them both and then complain to there hearts content. Problem is they will find that both cards perform similar if they could pull there heads out of the sand enough to make an unbiased non fan boy review. Dollars to donuts they live at home and do not have rent and utilities to pay ect and they still could not even pull it all off.
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I had a GTX 460 which performs about the same as your GTX 560 SE when overclocked. I know what kind of performance it gives. In most games you're fine, but in all the Crysis games and Battlefield 3 it's not enough, and it's certainly not going to be enough for future games.

If you don't mind "medium" settings and lower resolution then you can do ok with it, but really, why just skate by when you can get the 7850 for $230 and it will last you that much longer?
 
Gordon Freemen said:
I am finding the 1GB Vram buffer to be quite adequate @ 1680x1050P
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It's still probably not enough to run many modern games with AA at 1050p, and you will definitely need more than that soon. SLI would be a writeoff with those cards; don't even try it. I had 768mb GTX 460 SLI and the memory limitations were awful, and that was a year ago.
 
SickBeast said:
I had a GTX 460 which performs about the same as your GTX 560 SE when overclocked. I know what kind of performance it gives. In most games you're fine, but in all the Crysis games and Battlefield 3 it's not enough, and it's certainly not going to be enough for future games.

If you don't mind "medium" settings and lower resolution then you can do ok with it, but really, why just skate by when you can get the 7850 for $230 and it will last you that much longer?
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I'm not sure how long the 7850 will last, probably not long either, but yea, whenever you go <$200, it's not a good place to be, unless all you want to do is retro game.
 
SickBeast said:
I had a GTX 460 which performs about the same as your GTX 560 SE when overclocked. I know what kind of performance it gives. In most games you're fine, but in all the Crysis games and Battlefield 3 it's not enough, and it's certainly not going to be enough for future games.

If you don't mind "medium" settings and lower resolution then you can do ok with it, but really, why just skate by when you can get the 7850 for $230 and it will last you that much longer?
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At worst the GTX 560 would be running "High" settings @ 1680x1050P playable @ 1680x1050P and to max out BF3 even a GTX 680 is not really enough sometimes.
 
SickBeast said:
It's still probably not enough to run many modern games with AA at 1050p, and you will definitely need more than that soon. SLI would be a writeoff with those cards; don't even try it. I had 768mb GTX 460 SLI and the memory limitations were awful, and that was a year ago.
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I hate multi-gpu, I can't believe people can accept micro-stutter, It's there, it's always there... Like a constant jiggle when you're moving fast.😕

And not the good kind of jiggle.
 
borisvodofsky said:
I'm not sure how long the 7850 will last, probably not long either, but yea, whenever you go <$200, it's not a good place to be, unless all you want to do is retro game.
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There is probably less than 3 games that will come out this year that I will not be maxing out @ 1680x1050P on the 560 SE LOL.
 
borisvodofsky said:
I'm not sure how long the 7850 will last, probably not long either, but yea, whenever you go <$200, it's not a good place to be, unless all you want to do is retro game.
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With double the vram and more than double the power, it will last at least twice as long for less than twice as much money.
 
Gordon Freemen said:
At worst the GTX 560 would be running "High" settings @ 1680x1050P playable @ 1680x1050P and to max out BF3 even a GTX 680 is not really enough sometimes.
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No bro, NOT REMOTELY PLAYABLE. Even if you're playing the Lowest settings on BF3, your framerate will NOT be high enough for you to be competitive online.

FPS requires extremely high framerates for competitive high level play.
 
SickBeast said:
With double the vram and more than double the power, it will last at least twice as long for less than twice as much money.
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I wish this was true, but "lasting as long" lets actually get off this subject because it's very difficult to quantify.

I agree with the price to performance ratio 100%.

and if we really go down to it, 560se was obsolete the moment it came out, even before it came out. I'm not saying that to be mean. :'(
 
Gordon Freemen said:
1GB Vram is fine for under 1080P bud.
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I agree for most games that's true, and for those where it's not enough, just back down on MSAA. Anti-aliasing chews through VRAM like candy and lowering it to 4x or 2x or no MSAA at all, will free up lots of VRAM. FXAA isn't as good as MSAA but by design it takes less memory, so that's another way to get under VRAM ceilings.
 
blastingcap said:
I agree for most games that's true, and for those where it's not enough, just back down on MSAA. Anti-aliasing chews through VRAM like candy and lowering it to 4x or 2x or no MSAA at all, will free up lots of VRAM. FXAA isn't as good as MSAA but by design it takes less memory, so that's another way to get under VRAM ceilings.
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vram is seldom an issue, why are we even arguing over it. 😕
 
borisvodofsky said:
vram is seldom an issue, why are we even arguing over it. 😕
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Don't ask me; I didn't bring it up, dude.

Btw 16x10 is a resolution I have a lot of familarity with, as I was on that resolution for quite a while. It is about 85% the rez of a 1080p panel, or 77% the rez of a 19x12 panel.
 
borisvodofsky said:
No bro, NOT REMOTELY PLAYABLE. Even if you're playing the Lowest settings on BF3, your framerate will NOT be high enough for you to be competitive online.

FPS requires extremely high framerates for competitive high level play.
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I still pwn in MW2 and DOD Source locked at 60fps that being said no single card really even gets 60fps mins in BF3 but I will not be playing that game for Orgins is a POS and EA games can suck it. GTX 560 SE will play BF3 just fine with reduced settings @ 1680x1050
 
blastingcap said:
Don't ask me; I didn't bring it up, dude.

Btw 16x10 is a resolution I have a lot of familarity with, as I was on that resolution for quite a while. It is about 85% the rez of a 1080p panel, or 77% the rez of a 19x12 panel.
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Ah, i remember good ol 16x10, it was 2004, my awesome new 21.5 inch LG.

Only a year after, I got a 3007wfp. Never looked back, 1080p can go diaf. 😎
 
Gordon Freemen said:
I still pwn in MW2 and DOD Source locked at 60fps that being said no single card really even gets 60fps mins in BF3 but I will not be playing that game for Orgins is a POS and EA games can suck it. GTX 560 SE will play BF3 just fine with reduced settings @ 1680x1050
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competitive players play with the fps cap off.

And hey, if you're really ok with playing a slideshow, fine bro, your neutered 560 is awesome.
 
Gordon Freemen said:
Vram recently became a big issue when the vendors realized that it's a good way to sell product to main stream noobs that don't know any better.
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Now I'm sure you're a young new-gen think u know it all.

they've been pawning high vram since 4200ti,

I remember distinctly the 4200ti 128mb was SLOWER than the 64mb because they used cheaper vram, but still sold tons due to the big number. 😉
 
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