Or that they'd build on the PC engine lineage instead of starting from the ground up and producing an entire sh!tty engine (which is what it seems like they did)
Or that they'd build on the PC engine lineage instead of starting from the ground up and producing an entire sh!tty engine (which is what it seems like they did)
yea, i always like that too, i would think a PC would own a ps2 and xbox, why is graphics not better? WTF!
The camera controls are complicated as hell. I don't remember navigating around GTA and VC being so user involved.
bamacre
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My opinion of it isn't so bad. Graphics look great to me.
P4 3.2 800
1GB ddr
256 x800 pro
win2k
I'm getting 35 to 80 fps at 1600x1200 with frame limiter off, and 3xaa, draw distance at max. There is a lot more detail on the screen, more cars on the streets, better AI for the cops and ped's. The city is huge, the sounds have been updated.
1) Random BSoD's with no diagnostic information displayed (HTF do you break Windows THAT badly?)
Not getting any here.
2) No strafeing
You sure?
3) The controls don't match 3/VC
Yup, a little different, a bit more complicated, I can agree here. Moving the mouse while driving sucks, but it's not necessary to do so 95% of the time.
7) They seem to have added some sh!tty heat-radiating-off-the-ground effect that is sickeningly overdone at times
Turn it down/off in video options.
8) Skinning/clothing issues not fixed
[/b]Haven't noticed this.[/b]
9) Bicyling controls are spread across the damn keyboard in awkward spots
Change layout, it's not bad once you get used to it, it's a bike, not a pcj600.
If anyone can host, I'll work on a video, maybe with sound (raptors come in handy for this).
P4 3.2 800
1GB ddr
256 x800 pro
win2k
I'm getting 35 to 80 fps at 1600x1200 with frame limiter off, and 3xaa, draw distance at max. There is a lot more detail on the screen, more cars on the streets, better AI for the cops and ped's. The city is huge, the sounds have been updated.
1) Random BSoD's with no diagnostic information displayed (HTF do you break Windows THAT badly?)
Not getting any here.
2) No strafeing
You sure?
3) The controls don't match 3/VC
Yup, a little different, a bit more complicated, I can agree here. Moving the mouse while driving sucks, but it's not necessary to do so 95% of the time.
7) They seem to have added some sh!tty heat-radiating-off-the-ground effect that is sickeningly overdone at times
Turn it down/off in video options.
8) Skinning/clothing issues not fixed
[/b]Haven't noticed this.[/b]
9) Bicyling controls are spread across the damn keyboard in awkward spots
Change layout, it's not bad once you get used to it, it's a bike, not a pcj600.
If anyone can host, I'll work on a video, maybe with sound (raptors come in handy for this).
Of course it's what they did, they designed it for the ps2, which is 5 years obsolete. Christ I hate consoles. And Sony. :|
One more thing, can I change the controls from keyboard to joystick? I have xbox controllers and xbox-usb adapters.
If no one steps up, you can use http://rapidshare.de/ or http://www.yousendit.com/ to host the file.
1) This was only one of my rigs
2) Okay, it's there, but it's hidden in that GODAWFUL "OMGWTFYOUMUSTHOLDDOWNTHEFVCKINGBUTTONTOPOINTYOURGUN!" system. I hate that.
3) A *LITTLE* different? I realize there are additional controls that need to be worked in, but moving long-established controls to completely arbitrary keys is a little much.
7) Don't see it.
8) See: CJ's neck. Any shirts with logos on them (get fat)
9) Shouldn't have to change the damn controls (see #3)
Originally posted by: Queasy
Gurck, just out of curiosity, do you ever make a gaming related post that doesn't include you expressing your hatred of consoles?
Plenty, just not when consoles are to blame for crimes against humanity like this
flexy
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- Sep 28, 2001
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i just read the review on gamespot and watched the video reviews - besides some sound issues on SOME systems they say its a super great, must-have game.
Also...gfx below VC level is kinda hard to imagine.......VC is immersive and nice...but the gfx are definitly WAY below nowadays standard. The SA video looked like it has pretty decent graphics.
What are your specs that you are so disspointed with it ?
Also...gfx below VC level is kinda hard to imagine.......VC is immersive and nice...but the gfx are definitly WAY below nowadays standard. The SA video looked like it has pretty decent graphics.
What are your specs that you are so disspointed with it ?
flexy
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what card you got ? what options do you use ? according to the review the PC vesion is the graphically best version with MANY options, eg. all options at max. would even bring high-end machines to the knees. so i ASSUME the gfx are nice.
post some SS
Actually, Rockstar doesn't make the engine to the GTA games.
GTA runs on "Renderware" which was made by Criterion.
It's also used in such games as Sonic Heroes, assorted amounts of sub-par 3rd party titles.. and Burnout.
Thats right, the engine used to make GTA:SA is the same one used to make Burnout 3. Sort of shows the amount of polish they put into things at rockstar, doesn't it?
GTA3 was an awful port. My 9800pro can barely handle it in 800x600 - keep in mind this game was designed for a ps2, which is roughly as old as the pyramids in Egypt. I'm not the only one; others with similar systems get the same thing. Those with current generation video cards report that it runs ok though. Vice City was a good port, but only a port; it offered nothing out of the box that the ps2 didn't offer, other than the ability to go higher than 640x480 and use your own mp3s rather than the built in radio stations (they did a great job with music selection though, and having grown up in the 80s, I never felt the need to use that
). It runs great though; the 9800p can push it in 16x12 no problem. The hope was that SA would both run well and bring extras to the table.I don't get any BSODs. It runs pretty well, but the graphics do look dated compared to most PC games.
Otherwise, you can remap just about everything, so I don't see why your bitching about the controls.
Otherwise, you can remap just about everything, so I don't see why your bitching about the controls.
Originally posted by: Gurck
GTA3 was an awful port. My 9800pro can barely handle it in 800x600 - keep in mind this game was designed for a ps2, which is roughly as old as the pyramids in Egypt. I'm not the only one; others with similar systems get the same thing. Those with current generation video cards report that it runs ok though. Vice City was a good port, but only a port; it offered nothing out of the box that the ps2 didn't offer, other than the ability to go higher than 640x480 and use your own mp3s rather than the built in radio stations (they did a great job with music selection though, and having grown up in the 80s, I never felt the need to use that
WOW gta3 ran great on my 4800se.
Not sure WTF is wrong with your systems but GTA SA runs and looks better than GTA3 and VC.
(Using a 6800U now)
Originally posted by: flexy
what card you got ? what options do you use ? according to the review the PC vesion is the graphically best version with MANY options, eg. all options at max. would even bring high-end machines to the knees. so i ASSUME the gfx are nice.
post some SS
R9600Pro
R9600XT
R9800Pro
GF6800U.
4 test rigs, 3 people, 1 result. Looks. Like. Butt. And WHAT options at max?
There's only:
Brightness
Resolution
Frame Limiter
"Visual FX Quality"
MIP Mapping
Antialiasing
Changing Visual FX Quality doesn't seem to do ANYTHING (well, when you lower it, it gets rid of the annoying affect mentioned in the OP), but other than that, nothing)
These screenshots are 1024x768x32, FL on, no AA, MIP on, Very High quality, brightness up a little from stock, on the 9600Pro.
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