GT-R 18,000 mile service.

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Apex

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Originally posted by: lurk3r

A vette driven normally is a mechanic nearly no maintenance cost, but if you track it, it will destroy your pocketbook nearly as fast. My cousin has a track in England that he has quite a collection of cars you can rent for the weekend, the vette's brakes alone are over 1200 pounds a year, nearly $2500.

That's very different from the US, where the parts are very cheap. $150-175 buys you the entire set of pads, front and rear.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: lurk3r

A vette driven normally is a mechanic nearly no maintenance cost, but if you track it, it will destroy your pocketbook nearly as fast. My cousin has a track in England that he has quite a collection of cars you can rent for the weekend, the vette's brakes alone are over 1200 pounds a year, nearly $2500.

That's very different from the US, where the parts are very cheap. $150-175 buys you the entire set of pads, front and rear.

Pads maybe, but big rotors are expensive for any sports car. Luckily they last a decent amount of time.
 

trevor0323

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Wow that is absurd. I was browsing Nissan's site the other day looking at the vehicles and was astonished by the price of the GT-R. I understand the heritage and desire for this car but I still feel that it is way overpriced. I would much rather plop down less than half of the GTR's price for a STI or EVO.

Also, to my understanding it is illegal for companies to not let you do basic maintenance on your vehicle. (However there may be some exception to this with the GTR)

Like someone stated earlier I would imagine most GTR owners know how to change there oil and trans fluid and will probably void there warranty anyways when they put aftermarket parts on them.

Those dealership prices for service are horrendous anyways. If it were me I would go to the stealership and pick up the OEM Oil Filter and Washer. Then head over to Wally World for a case of Mobil 1 synthentic for $30.00. Then finally head to the GM dealership for 10qts of GM Synchromesh with Friction Modifier.

On that tranny fluid I highly doubt that Nissan's speical GTR ATF is beeter than GM Synchomesh with friction modifier. Do a search on any performance car forum and you will hear many people praising the stuff. That is the stuff they put in the hugh GM industrial trucks along with Corvettes and Vipers. I recently stopped using Honda MTF in my type R in favor of this stuff and it did make a noticable difference.
 

caspur

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
The fluids can be found cheaper online, but as soon as you take your GT-R in for a warranty claim, Nissan will deny you service because you decided to purchase your stuff online instead of at the dealership...

That's illegal.

This is correct. As long as the fluids you use meet the standards set by Nissan, they can not deny service. For example, if they require a 5w-30 oil, they can not require a specific brand oil unless they provide it for free. As long as you use the correct viscosity and maintain the specified intervals, the warranty is valid.

Furthermore, transmission fluid is simply an oil with additives. Any of the large companies can make equivalents. Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Quaker State, whatever, can make a similar viscosity oil that will have the same duty standards.

 

lurk3r

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: lurk3r

A vette driven normally is a mechanic nearly no maintenance cost, but if you track it, it will destroy your pocketbook nearly as fast. My cousin has a track in England that he has quite a collection of cars you can rent for the weekend, the vette's brakes alone are over 1200 pounds a year, nearly $2500.

That's very different from the US, where the parts are very cheap. $150-175 buys you the entire set of pads, front and rear.

Pads maybe, but big rotors are expensive for any sports car. Luckily they last a decent amount of time.

And the stock pads and rotors, while great for daily driving are flat out unsafe on a track.
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: lurk3r
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: lurk3r

A vette driven normally is a mechanic nearly no maintenance cost, but if you track it, it will destroy your pocketbook nearly as fast. My cousin has a track in England that he has quite a collection of cars you can rent for the weekend, the vette's brakes alone are over 1200 pounds a year, nearly $2500.

That's very different from the US, where the parts are very cheap. $150-175 buys you the entire set of pads, front and rear.

Pads maybe, but big rotors are expensive for any sports car. Luckily they last a decent amount of time.

And the stock pads and rotors, while great for daily driving are flat out unsafe on a track.

why is it unsafe?
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
So what?

The car costs over $70,000 dollars. Anyone who spends that kind of money on a car doesn't need to worry about a meager 2,000 service.

Oh wait, we live in a country where people making $50,000 a year think they can finance anything, even a car that costs twice what they make in a year and depreciates like mad.
Wow, somebody is off topic a little!

$70k is not terribly expensive. $2k for this is. Would you expect $1k in service for a $35k car?

Anyway, this is ridiculous, but then I presume most owners would know beforehand that it's not an accord. Exotics like ferraris are basically just endless money pits. I think an oil change on an Evo was famously reported to cost around $650 because it required 12 quarts of oil at $50/piece.
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Guesstimate on what a dealer will charge for the following : (Z06 30,000 mile)
-mobil 1 oil change 8.5 qts @ 8.00/qt + 10. filter + 1/2 hr labor = 110
-transmission fluid flush and refill 4 qts x 10.00 + 1/2 hr labor = 80
-differential fluid flush and refill (with synthetic) 2 qts x 10.00 + 1/2 hr labor = 60
-4 wheel allignment 120
-brake bleed and refill 80
-install stainless steel lines 200

Total guesstimate: 650.00

According to this site it's $102.

Why would you need stainless steel lines as part of maintenance?

The following is what's recommended for my C6 in the owner's manual:

50,000 miles: replace engine air cleaner filter. change automatic transmission fluid and filter
100,000 miles: replace engine air cleaner filter. change automatic transmission fluid and filter. replace spark plugs.
150,000 miles: replace engine air cleaner filter. change automatic transmission fluid and filter. engine cooling system service.

That's it other than oil changes and normal wear, tear, and replace items like tires, brake pads, windshield wipers, etc.

In 2 years, I've spent $40 on one oil change. I need to do another oil change next week so that's another $40. $80 in two years. Next year I'll need another oil change. So another $40. Oil change and go. Doesn't get any simpler.

That's awesome man, you just got me all excited, my next car is a vette!!!

:p

 

JulesMaximus

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That's nothing. A guy I know bought a Ferrari 348 Spider recently and it requires an engine-out major service every 15,000 miles. That service starts at $7,000 and goes up from there depending on whatever else they discover it needs.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: BouZouki
So what?

The car costs over $70,000 dollars. Anyone who spends that kind of money on a car doesn't need to worry about a meager 2,000 service.

Oh wait, we live in a country where people making $50,000 a year think they can finance anything, even a car that costs twice what they make in a year and depreciates like mad.
Wow, somebody is off topic a little!

$70k is not terribly expensive. $2k for this is. Would you expect $1k in service for a $35k car?

Anyway, this is ridiculous, but then I presume most owners would know beforehand that it's not an accord. Exotics like ferraris are basically just endless money pits. I think an oil change on an Evo was famously reported to cost around $650 because it required 12 quarts of oil at $50/piece.

Evo? I think you mean Enzo! ;)
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: BouZouki
So what?

The car costs over $70,000 dollars. Anyone who spends that kind of money on a car doesn't need to worry about a meager 2,000 service.

Oh wait, we live in a country where people making $50,000 a year think they can finance anything, even a car that costs twice what they make in a year and depreciates like mad.
Wow, somebody is off topic a little!

$70k is not terribly expensive. $2k for this is. Would you expect $1k in service for a $35k car?

Anyway, this is ridiculous, but then I presume most owners would know beforehand that it's not an accord. Exotics like ferraris are basically just endless money pits. I think an oil change on an Evo was famously reported to cost around $650 because it required 12 quarts of oil at $50/piece.

Evo? I think you mean Enzo! ;)
lol :)

 

lurk3r

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: lurk3r
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: lurk3r

A vette driven normally is a mechanic nearly no maintenance cost, but if you track it, it will destroy your pocketbook nearly as fast. My cousin has a track in England that he has quite a collection of cars you can rent for the weekend, the vette's brakes alone are over 1200 pounds a year, nearly $2500.

That's very different from the US, where the parts are very cheap. $150-175 buys you the entire set of pads, front and rear.

Pads maybe, but big rotors are expensive for any sports car. Luckily they last a decent amount of time.

And the stock pads and rotors, while great for daily driving are flat out unsafe on a track.

why is it unsafe?

After about the 3rd lap the stock pads would not stop the car. This is actual data, my cousin the mechanic HAD to change the stock brakes out. Again, this is for a TRACKed car, not for normal operation.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: lurk3r
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: lurk3r
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: lurk3r

A vette driven normally is a mechanic nearly no maintenance cost, but if you track it, it will destroy your pocketbook nearly as fast. My cousin has a track in England that he has quite a collection of cars you can rent for the weekend, the vette's brakes alone are over 1200 pounds a year, nearly $2500.

That's very different from the US, where the parts are very cheap. $150-175 buys you the entire set of pads, front and rear.

Pads maybe, but big rotors are expensive for any sports car. Luckily they last a decent amount of time.

And the stock pads and rotors, while great for daily driving are flat out unsafe on a track.

why is it unsafe?

After about the 3rd lap the stock pads would not stop the car. This is actual data, my cousin the mechanic HAD to change the stock brakes out. Again, this is for a TRACKed car, not for normal operation.

Yep, I can back this up. Repeated hot-stops from triple-digit speeds (like when you are coming off of a decent straight into a hair-pin) will do a serious number on ordinary brake systems. Hell, they're still brutal on actual racing brake setups for that matter. The difference, as Lurker notes, is that the racing brakes will be much more resistant to fade and failure under severe track duty. Even some vehicles that many would think trackworthy off the showroom floor suffer from this. I've heard that M3 brakes, while excellent, are not up to track punishment without upgrades, as fade is quickly an issue.
 

BassBomb

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I never understood why people on the internet complain about things they can't afford
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: BassBomb
I never understood why people on the internet complain about things they can't afford

Because it's a GT-R, any chance to take it down a peg.......ya know?

Vette still can't hold a candle to this car, sorry you are getting much more and it's also more expensive to maintain.

Lemme know when the Vette get's a DSG and AWD. It's simpler to maintain, because it's basically the same technology we've been using for 50 years.

Not saying it's a dinosaur, but the GT-R is cutting edge is every respect, you can't say the same thing about the Vette, and I'm including the ZR-1 in there as well.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: BassBomb
I never understood why people on the internet complain about things they can't afford

Because it's a GT-R, any chance to take it down a peg.......ya know?

Vette still can't hold a candle to this car, sorry you are getting much more and it's also more expensive to maintain.

Lemme know when the Vette get's a DSG and AWD. It's simpler to maintain, because it's basically the same technology we've been using for 50 years.

Not saying it's a dinosaur, but the GT-R is cutting edge is every respect, you can't say the same thing about the Vette, and I'm including the ZR-1 in there as well.

Both cars are absolutely awesome, and just because the Vette uses a lot of time-proven tech doesn't mean it's a dinosaur. It also more than holds it's own against the GT-R, in the right hands with the right setup. I will give you one thing though, with an average amateur driver in each, the GT-R is probably a lot easier to drive near the limit.

One big thing that bugs me : The stock runflats on both the Vette and GT-R suck diseased balls. The optional, but still a stock choice, non-runflats on the GT-R perform worlds better. And everyone knows that putting some decent tires on a C6, even the base model, gives some big gains in hooking up.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: BassBomb
I never understood why people on the internet complain about things they can't afford

Because it's a GT-R, any chance to take it down a peg.......ya know?

Vette still can't hold a candle to this car, sorry you are getting much more and it's also more expensive to maintain.

Lemme know when the Vette get's a DSG and AWD. It's simpler to maintain, because it's basically the same technology we've been using for 50 years.

Not saying it's a dinosaur, but the GT-R is cutting edge is every respect, you can't say the same thing about the Vette, and I'm including the ZR-1 in there as well.

Both cars are absolutely awesome, and just because the Vette uses a lot of time-proven tech doesn't mean it's a dinosaur. It also more than holds it's own against the GT-R, in the right hands with the right setup. I will give you one thing though, with an average amateur driver in each, the GT-R is probably a lot easier to drive near the limit.

One big thing that bugs me : The stock runflats on both the Vette and GT-R suck diseased balls. The optional, but still a stock choice, non-runflats on the GT-R perform worlds better. And everyone knows that putting some decent tires on a C6, even the base model, gives some big gains in hooking up.

I didn't say it's a dinosaur, but the Corvette is built on proven tech, that's evolved substantially over the years.

GT-R is breaking new ground in a lot of areas and that fancy stuff is expensive to maintain and fix.

Shit, just having AWD adds to the costs of maintenance, if you can't/won't do your own diff gear oil changes and the like...I bet my WRX would be more expensive to maintain at the dealer than a Corvette just by default.

So it's a stupid comparison overall but one apt to be brought up by the haters, as is evidenced in this thread.
 

big man

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are you sure it wasnt the brake fluid boiling over?


nissans are known to have robust brakes with the brake fluid being the weak point