Gps- When will 5" have more resolution than the 4.3" models?

[lothar]

Were you running red lights before hand?!

Nice on the speed traps though... cheaper than a $500 Escort 9500...

Not really, but it helps me not having to slam the brakes because it's too late for me to stop.
If it's too late for me to stop(without me having to slam my brakes) and there's no red light camera there, I just keep driving and go ahead to run the red light.

If I'm going too fast and there IS a red light camera there, then all the more reason for me to slam the brakes but this never happens period since I'm always warned 600ft prior to me meeting the camera and would have slowed down long before.

These cameras are never about safety and everything to do with revenue generation anyhow. Anyone who tells you that or actually believes so is a moran, plain and simple.
If it was about safety, they wouldn't be issuing citations that leave no marks on your driving record if fully paid when they could be issuing points. That's why when the cameras become unprofitable for many municipalities, they take them down completely or move them elsewhere.

 

[zerocool84]

Not really, but it helps me not having to slam the brakes because it's too late for me to stop.
If it's too late for me to stop(without me having to slam my brakes) and there's no red light camera there, I just keep driving and go ahead to run the red light.

If I'm going too fast and there IS a red light camera there, then all the more reason for me to slam the brakes but this never happens period since I'm always warned 600ft prior to me meeting the camera and would have slowed down long before.

These cameras are never about safety and everything to do with revenue generation anyhow. Anyone who tells you that or actually believes so is a moran, plain and simple.
If it was about safety, they wouldn't be issuing citations that leave no marks on your driving record if fully paid when they could be issuing points. That's why when the cameras become unprofitable for many municipalities, they take them down completely or move them elsewhere.

Seems like all you need to do is learn to drive better. There should be zero reason you're going to run a red light.

 

[lothar]

Seems like all you need to do is learn to drive better. There should be zero reason you're going to run a red light.

I've read many reports that red light cameras lead to more accidents.
I guess those people don't know how to drive better either.

Sounds to me like you've bought everything the politicians are telling you hook, line, and sinker.
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1844.asp
http://blog.motorists.org/red-light-cameras-increase-accidents-5-studies-that-prove-it/
http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/studies

If running a red light leads to me being less likely to be involved in a fatal accident, then it looks like I am better off running that red light.

 

[WelshBloke]

When Google updates their navigation to have this info, I'll stop using my standalone GPS.
http://www.poi-factory.com/poifiles/us/red-light-cameras

My GPS tells me "Caution: You are now approaching a red light camera" when I'm 600ft from the red light camera.
It also tells me "Mobile police radar ahead" when I'm 1,000ft from a speeding camera.

Until Google adds that feature to their maps, screw that. I will always carry my GPS in my hand when getting behind the wheel.
I haven't had a red light or speeding camera ticket in 5 years despite being in an area with loads of them.

CoPilot on Android does that.

Still no need for a stand alone GPS.

 

[Thegonagle]

No need to run red lights. Pay attention and stop, or pay a cop's salary for the day.

With that said, Google is great, and it's a given that it's about as up-to-date as it gets. On the other hand, it needs a cellular data signal to work.

 

[alent1234]

Seems like all you need to do is learn to drive better. There should be zero reason you're going to run a red light.

NYC i look at the don't walk signal as a warning

in other places if you're driving you may have no warning at all that the signal is changing

 

[Zaap]

The people that buy these things don't buy a larger screen so they can see more, they buy the larger screen so that they can see it better.

Exactly.

The point of the larger screen fora GPS unit isn't more info at the same size, it's the same info (relevant only for where one is at a given time) displayed larger.

 

[Zaap]

CoPilot on Android does that.

Plenty of other apps do the same thing and will pop up a message when approaching a red-light cam or speed trap.

I used to use these things for about 10 minutes when I first got an Android phone, then I realized it was simply an annoyance. *knock wood* I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over a decade, don't care about speed traps, and don't give a flying leap about red light cameras because I'm not one of the dolts gunning through the intersection just as the light changes nearly side-swiping people trying to make a left turn.

 

[WelshBloke]

Plenty of other apps do the same thing and will pop up a message when approaching a red-light cam or speed trap.

I used to use these things for about 10 minutes when I first got an Android phone, then I realized it was simply an annoyance. *knock wood* I haven't gotten a speeding ticket in over a decade, don't care about speed traps, and don't give a flying leap about red light cameras because I'm not one of the dolts gunning through the intersection just as the light changes nearly side-swiping people trying to make a left turn.

Fair enough, I'm just pointing out that theres nothing a stand alone GPS can do that a smart phone cant.

 

[Zaap]

Wasn't disagreeing at all- was just adding on to your point.

 

[QueBert]

Fair enough, I'm just pointing out that theres nothing a stand alone GPS can do that a smart phone cant.

My GPS has Snoop Doggs voice, while it might be fluff, Android, iOS or WP7 cannot do that

 

[Imp]

So, how prevalent are GPS programs on tablets/phones. I've heard of Garmin/Magellan maps you can buy for $50 (?) for some phones, but they still need an internet connection, IIRC.

I don't see why Garmin/Magellan can't allow you to buy their software to run a GPS on tablets/phones ON DEVICE (i.e. no data plan necessary). The only issue may be a gimped GPS receiver, but then they could offer USB adapter receivers for sale, so wtf?

 

[WelshBloke]

My GPS has Snoop Doggs voice, while it might be fluff, Android, iOS or WP7 cannot do that

Yeah, it can.

 

[WelshBloke]

So, how prevalent are GPS programs on tablets/phones. I've heard of Garmin/Magellan maps you can buy for $50 (?) for some phones, but they still need an internet connection, IIRC.

I don't see why Garmin/Magellan can't allow you to buy their software to run a GPS on tablets/phones ON DEVICE (i.e. no data plan necessary). The only issue may be a gimped GPS receiver, but then they could offer USB adapter receivers for sale, so wtf?

You just need an internet connection to download the large map files (usually about 2gigs), after that you only need data if you want traffic updates or the like.

 

[QueBert]

Yeah, it can.

How? All I can find is the Voiceskins won't work with the TomTom iPhone app even.

 

[WelshBloke]

How? All I can find is the Voiceskins won't work with the TomTom iPhone app even.

Acording to TomTom they are available as an in app purchase.

 

[lothar]

No need to run red lights. Pay attention and stop, or pay a cop's salary for the day.

With that said, Google is great, and it's a given that it's about as up-to-date as it gets. On the other hand, it needs a cellular data signal to work.

The problem with that is you're not paying a cops salary for the day. That is not how the cameras normally work.
-Some company(lets say ABC Traffic technologies) talks to a municipality about setting up red light cameras.
-They preach that it will increase safety and reduce both accidents and fatalities even though it does neither.
-They also make a sweet deal with the municpality on revenue sharing and say "You don't even have to do anything on your part".
-This deal would be that ABC Traffic technologies gets to keep 75-80% of the profit, while the municipal government gets to keep 20-25%. In reality, from your $80 ticket only about $10 goes to the government. But it's free money for the government since they don't have to do anything. Therefore the more cameras installed, the more revenue generated.

I agree with Google maps.
Like I mentioned, only reason I use my GPS is for red light and speed cameras. Google maps does everything else.
Would I pay $500 for a standalone GPS brick? Absolutely not. There are GPS units that do what I require for less than $50. Google maps can do everything else.

 

[lothar]

NYC i look at the don't walk signal as a warning

in other places if you're driving you may have no warning at all that the signal is changing

Not to mention, there's absolutely no standard.
At some places(my area), the yellow amber stays on for 5 seconds before changing to red.
At other municipalities, I've seen it for as little as 2 seconds.

Unlike red light cameras which increases accidents(both fatal and non-fatal) at intersections, increasing the yellow amber time has been shown to improve improve road safety and lead to less accidents and fatalities.
I don't carry my GPS if I'm driving in my area since I know our traffic timing system. If I'm going out of town though, absolutely I carry the GPS.

 

[lothar]

CoPilot on Android does that.

Still no need for a stand alone GPS.

1.) CoPilot doesn't have safety cameras.
2.) CoPilot does not allow direct importing of POI files with proximity alerts.
3.) Even if they enable #1 at some time in the future, it can't possibly be better than a completely open system where thousands of users report incidents. This is just one person or a few people working on the app, meaning their database will have a big lag time. Their app hasn't been updated since January. My red light and speeding cameras get updated weekly. For the same reason, that's why I use POI factory and not Garmin's camera database on my GPS which only gets updated yearly or quarterly at most.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1352

The best thing I've heard so far for Android that meets my needs is Radardroid app, but I have to personally test it out.
Looks like I may endup buying that app.

 

[stlc8tr]

Not to mention, there's absolutely no standard.
At some places(my area), the yellow amber stays on for 5 seconds before changing to red.
At other municipalities, I've seen it for as little as 2 seconds.

Unlike red light cameras which increases accidents(both fatal and non-fatal) at intersections, increasing the yellow amber time has been shown to improve improve road safety and lead to less accidents and fatalities.
I don't carry my GPS if I'm driving in my area since I know our traffic timing system. If I'm going out of town though, absolutely I carry the GPS.

I like having countdown timers too. Makes it very easy to see how stale a green light is.

 

[WelshBloke]

1.) CoPilot doesn't have safety cameras.

Mine does.

2.) CoPilot does not allow direct importing of POI files with proximity alerts.

I've not had a need to try myself but it comes with a massive amout of POIs, Ill look into custom ones if you like.

3.) Even if they enable #1 at some time in the future, it can't possibly be better than a completely open system where thousands of users report incidents. This is just one person or a few people working on the app, meaning their database will have a big lag time. Their app hasn't been updated since January. My red light and speeding cameras get updated weekly. For the same reason, that's why I use POI factory and not Garmin's camera database on my GPS which only gets updated yearly or quarterly at most.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1352

The best thing I've heard so far for Android that meets my needs is Radardroid app, but I have to personally test it out.
Looks like I may endup buying that app.

Funnily enough my Copilot updated this weekend just gone.

Again I've not looked into using custom speed camera warnings but I cant see how it would be any more difficult to do in Android than in a closed system.

Edit: Looks like POI factory POIs work in copilot

 

[lothar]

Mine does.

I've not had a need to try myself but it comes with a massive amout of POIs, Ill look into custom ones if you like.



Funnily enough my Copilot updated this weekend just gone.

Again I've not looked into using custom speed camera warnings but I cant see how it would be any more difficult to do in Android than in a closed system.

Edit: Looks like POI factory POIs work in copilot

How?
http://www.copilotlive.com/us/mapcoverage.asp?expanddiv=s1-2

I don't care about POI's. Google does a better job for that than CoPilot, Garmin, TomTom, and Navigon units.
POI's on CoPilot are outdated. POI's on Garmin/TomTom/Navigon Navigation units are also outdated. I love it how these companies always advertise 5-10+ million POI's. Google has much more than that. Again I only care about POIs for red light and speed cameras with proximity alerts, not POI's that tells me where the closest BestBuy, McDonalds, or library is which Google Maps can already do better for free.

I'm going based on the link on Android Market.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5hbGsuY29waWxvdC5uYW1hcmtldC5wcmVtaXVtdXNhIl0.
UPDATED :
January 4, 2012
CURRENT VERSION:
9.1.0.214

It works, but not with proximity alerts. In other words, it's more like a hackjob and doesn't give "full" functionality.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/33983
This is the best thing I've found so far for Android that may potentially solve my issue. I will have to test it out sometime within the next few weeks.

 

[WelshBloke]

How?
http://www.copilotlive.com/us/mapcoverage.asp?expanddiv=s1-2

Click on the button for Western Europe and look at the UK row.

I don't care about POI's. Google does a better job for that than CoPilot, Garmin, TomTom, and Navigon units.
POI's on CoPilot are outdated. POI's on Garmin/TomTom/Navigon Navigation units are also outdated. I love it how these companies always advertise 5-10+ million POI's. Google has much more than that. Again I only care about POIs for red light and speed cameras with proximity alerts, not POI's that tells me where the closest BestBuy, McDonalds, or library is which Google Maps can already do better for free.

I'm going based on the link on Android Market.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5hbGsuY29waWxvdC5uYW1hcmtldC5wcmVtaXVtdXNhIl0.
UPDATED :
January 4, 2012
CURRENT VERSION:
9.1.0.214

It works, but not with proximity alerts. In other words, it's more like a hackjob and doesn't give "full" functionality.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/33983
This is the best thing I've found so far for Android that may potentially solve my issue. I will have to test it out sometime within the next few weeks.

Again my copilot works for speed cameras and gives proximity alerts.

Android market says "UPDATED:
April 10, 2012
CURRENT VERSION:
9.1.0.269"

Linkage.

 

[lothar]

Click on the button for Western Europe and look at the UK row.




Again my copilot works for speed cameras and gives proximity alerts.

Android market says "UPDATED:
April 10, 2012
CURRENT VERSION:
9.1.0.269"

Linkage.

I don't live in the UK or Europe. :whiste:
Neither do most people here.

 

[WelshBloke]

I don't live in the UK or Europe. :whiste:
Neither do most people here.

So? You asked how mine had speed camera alerts et al.

Have you looked into any other GPS apps for north america?