Gov. Schwarzenegger Declares State of Emergency Due to Budget Impasse

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Mursilis

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Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: Mursilis

You still have earthquakes.

Enjoy your hurricaine.

What hurricane? By the time they hit us, they're called thunderstorms.

Galveston.

The Galveston Hurricane of 1900 is to date the deadliest natural disaster ever to strike the United States

Never lived in Galveston.
 

SagaLore

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That state needs split into 2 new states. Its too big and important to be handled by one governor.

Just cut it straight down from east of Tahoe down to between Santa Maria and Santa Barbara.

North California and South California...
 

Jakeisbest

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California needs a new constitution and to put and end to the referendum process.

The reason CA can't finalize a budget is because of numerous propositions passed over the years mandate a certain amount of money or a certain % of the budget be spent. The remaining money which is unrestricted is going to cover the most basic health and human service issues. California is wasting a lot of money on small stupid propositions I few highlights if found online:

Prop 2 - requires a minimum amount of space for farm animals - and pays for people to inspect said space.
Prop 16 - Regulated chiropractors
Prop 83 - "Jessica's Law" In general I am opposed to laws named after kids, while it sounded good on paper it costs a fortune to have anual meetings with all registered sex offenders

Prop 163 - Exempts things like bottled water and candy from state and local sales tax
Prop 184 - Three strikes - nothing saves money like incarcerating people for life, especially drug offenders

 
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Originally posted by: SagaLore
That state needs split into 2 new states. Its too big and important to be handled by one governor.

Just cut it straight down from east of Tahoe down to between Santa Maria and Santa Barbara.

North California and South California...

Hell yes. And then North California can keep it's water to itself while South California dies of thirst. Muhahahaha.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: eleison
Texas is a very bad place.. Stay in California!!! ;-)
Unless you are retarded then it's a crap shoot, they either execute you or make you the Governor.
 

Moonbeam

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Well Texas sounds like a business opportunity to me from what I'm reading. Seems like it would be perfect for a solar organic farm. Lots of cow shit. Lots of water in the air. Lots of desert land. Lots of sun. So use solar voltaic or even wind to produce electricity, use the latest technology for producing water from humid air, use the water and the shit and land to grow organic gardens. And don't forget that Texans are just people like all other people. They just adopt the culture called Texas culture because of self hate and the need to conform that self hate creates. If you take a Texas baby and raise it in California it will grow up to be an arrogant left winged California asshole instead of the kind of right winged assholes Texas creates.
 

Moonbeam

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I heard the Indians had a very effective way to solve negotiative political problems. They dug a pit and put their leaders in it and wouldn't let them out till they resolved their issues. Perhaps that's where the Governor and the legislature should go. We can park the bulldozers at the edge of the pit and start a countdown.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: senseamp
Our governor is an idiot. He is blocking increasing license fees by $15/year to fully fund state parks, Instead he wants to close 200 parks that generate $2.40 of direct and indirect tax revenue for every dollar spent on them.
Time to start recall campaign.

If they generate $2.40 for every dollar spent on them, how come they are not self-funded? Why is there a need for revenue from other sources?


Do you not understand that when someone comes to visit a state park, they stay in hotel, pay tax on that, buy stuff, etc? If I ride my mountain bike in state park, I also spend hundreds of dollars a year on bike stuff.
So they may not be self-funded in terms of fees, but they generate more than enough revenue for the state to earn their keep and then some. Arnold is being penny wise and pound foolish. Yeah, he'll save a dollar on funding state parks, but lose way more than a dollar by damaging CA tourism and recreation industry, not to mention the jobs those industries create.

Revenue: $88,460,098
Operating Costs: $199,215,810
http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=23308

Looks like Revenue is 44% Operating Costs.
That revenue figure includes user fees, concessions, and miscellaneous. If you add 8.25% sales tax on ALL the state park income that is only $95,758,056 or revenue 48% operating costs.

Isn't it nice when you back your numbers up with FACTS?

Parks themselves encourage spending according to senseamp. This is like telling a restaurant: DON'T CLOSE DOWN if you can't survive financially because I try to come to eat at your place as much as I can. Even though that money doesn't help you survive, I need to spend on gas money, and I need to buy a car, so this in turn supports the economy. Keep running your unprofitable business.

Keep GM alive because even though they will bleed cash every year, we spend tons of money on oil so it's ok.

Senseamp, as much as we all love parks and stuff, you're sounding desperate.

Actually, I think the figure is somewhere in the middle of what Senseamp stated & the low figure you guys came up with. There's a lot of indirect revenue as a result of the parks that the figure above doesn't include - how about fishing licenses for the people who just fish a couple days a year at one of the parks? What about taxes on any equipment, etc., that people purchase to take to the parks with them? Think about all the campers, etc., that people have purchased & only use when they go to those state parks. That really starts to add up. Heck, I'm just about to go on a camping trip. Solely for that trip, I've already paid $60ish on annual registration fees and paid for two trailer inspections. (Thankfully, registration fees are low in NY - two boats, camper, and a boat trailer)
 

piasabird

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There is no humidity in Texas. Texas is like a giant desert. That is what it seemed like around El-Paso, Texas last time I was stationed there in the Military.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: piasabird
There is no humidity in Texas. Texas is like a giant desert. That is what it seemed like around El-Paso, Texas last time I was stationed there in the Military.

Sarcasm? You were about as far from the Atlantic in Texas as possible.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Never lived in Galveston.

yeah but you live in texas buahahahahah. Redneck fool. enjoy your humidity.

I've never lived in Texas, and my profile clearly displays my state of residence. Who's the fool again?
 

Pneumothorax

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Originally posted by: piasabird
There is no humidity in Texas. Texas is like a giant desert. That is what it seemed like around El-Paso, Texas last time I was stationed there in the Military.

Are you being sarcastic? Spent a couple of weeks in Galveston/San Antonio and it was about 85-100 degrees with 60-80% humidity. NOT FUN. West Texas is pretty dry though.
 

Genx87

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Another state run health program running in the high single digit growth rate? Where is the efficiency we keep hearing about?
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: jpeyton
There goes the re-election hopes of this Republican governor.

I thought he's done anyway. This is his 2nd term no? Anyway, I heard he's going for senator in 2010

I heard him and Palin were the 2012 presidential ticket:)
 

theeedude

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I wonder how long before Arnold is recalled. I think he would be already, but noone wants his job :)
 

Jadow

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Originally posted by: Ns1
I <3 CA

I hate our government.

The government that the people you <3 have created by their stupid referendums and pandering to every interest group.
 

StageLeft

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One agency lowered California's debt rating one notch above junk. Some large banks are saying that come Friday they will no longer accept IOUs. CA plans to issue $16B of them.