Gov. Christie too lazy to walk 100 yards from helicopter to field uses car

[kage69]

So...let me get this straight...the "real issue" here is his failure to walk 100 yards somehow demonstrates his lack of fiscal sacrifice....is this what you're saying?

If you still have no idea after me spelling it out for you in plain English, no, I don't think you're going to be capable of getting anything straight.

I personally don't have a problem with it. And I don't have a problem with Obama riding in a golf cart instead of walking, or using Air Force One to meet his wife for a date in NYC despite him being a huge proponent for reducing carbon emissions. But maybe that's somehow different in your world.

Yes....please tell me about intellectual honesty....I'm all ears.

Pity there's not much between them. See in my world, the PoTUS has a schedule far more complex and busy than that of a Governor, and is also in need of far more protection than a Governor. This leads to them needing different considerations when traveling, but as a hopeless partisan hack you can't bring yourself to acknowledge this difference. No comparison is too wrong when you've got a (R) to apologize for, as you've shown us time and time again.

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[soundforbjt]

lol, dude that was weak.

No more weak than all the apologists posting here.

How many of them "claimed" to be fiscally conservative? There you'll find the true hypocrites.

 

[Siddhartha]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110602/ap_on_re_us/us_christie_helicopter

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By BETH DeFALCO, Associated Press Beth Defalco, Associated Press – 16 mins ago
TRENTON, N.J. –
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and the State Republican Committee are reimbursing the state for the governor's personal use of a state police helicopter, which includes two trips to watch his oldest son's baseball games, a spokeswoman for Christie said Thursday.

Christie has paid $2,251 to the state to cover the cost of all trips, said Maria Comella, his spokeswoman.

The state GOP paid $1,232 to cover a helicopter trip Christie and his wife made to Princeton on Tuesday, flying 75 miles from a game in Montvale for a meeting with a group of top GOP campaign contributors from Iowa, Comella said.

"As the chief of State Police said yesterday, the air travel didn't cost taxpayers any additional dollars and fell under the protection unit's normal security responsibilities," Comella said. "But the governor understands the sensitivity about this kind of thing and believes he owes it to the public to ensure that this is not a distraction."

"We have some big, important reform measures that the governor is committed to getting done and that's where everyone's focus needs to be," she told The Associated Press.

On Wednesday, a spokesman for the first-term GOP governor said the helicopter use was appropriate and that Christie doesn't reimburse the state for security and travel.

 

[Red Dawn]

Obviously the guy has no self control or he'd never have gotten so fat

 

[soundforbjt]

Notice how they pay after it's shown to be a bad liability for him.

Maybe he is thinking of running. This occured after his meeting with Iowa repubs. hmmm.

 

[kage69]

Notice how they pay after it's shown to be a bad liability for him.

Maybe he is thinking of running. This occured after his meeting with Iowa repubs. hmmm.

Typical, but at least he's not fucking the NJ taxpayers over on this now. It'd be nice to think he did this because he's a nice guy who wants to present the image or a fair and compassionate leader, but then if that were the case I don't think he'd be giving the middle class the middle finger, or pulling a billion out of education to fund a billion dollar tax cut for the top 2%. Nope, his staff realized this was bad press and advised this to be remedied asap to avoid any further bad press.

I think he's looking at 2016.

 

[Genx87]

Notice how they pay after it's shown to be a bad liability for him.

Maybe he is thinking of running. This occured after his meeting with Iowa repubs. hmmm.

No shit sherlock.

That said, I found the whole thing regardless of who paid for it to be obnoxious.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Sorry Chris...cart's full....you lazy lard ass! Hahahaha.

 

[Bird222]

You have proof of that or are you spewing the same fearmongering as others did during tea party rallies?

Even though someone already pointed out the increased threats, even if there weren't any increased threats I would want my president protected. The president can ride around in a tank if the Secret Service felt it was needed to protect him/her.

 

[Ape]

Christie Changes Course, Reimburses State for Helicopter Flights

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/upd...urse-reimburses-state-for-helicopter-flights/

Spokeswoman Maria Comella says Christie has paid $2,251 to the state to cover the cost of all trips.

Good to see him take ownership and do the right thing.

 

[Perknose]

Good to see him take ownership and do the right thing.

Yeah, but as has been said, only after he was caught and outed in the press.

Christie has a fairly robust history of shady dealings sleazified with the taint of corruption and influence abuse. His many out-of-state fanboys don't seem cognizant of this fact.

He campaigned against no-bid contracts but as a US District Attorney he gave a whopper of a mulit-million dollar one to . . . wait for it . . . his former boss, John Ashcroft.

Sworn testimony before the US House:

Specifically, in my home state of New Jersey, a consulting firm led by former Attorney General John Ashcroft received a contract from U.S. Attorney Chris Christie, his former employee. The fact that there was no competitive bidding and no public input in this process is problematic.

It seems that every U.S. Attorney handles the process of appointing corporate monitors differently. Some, like Christie, literally dictated the choice. Others provide a short list to the company accused of criminal activity or simply reserve their right to veto a company’s selection.

With little say over which firm is appointed as a corporate monitor, companies are strong-armed into complying with the will of the U.S. Attorney. This essentially amounts to corporate blackmail on the part of the U.S. Attorneys.
I believe that the reforms offered in my legislation are essential in rooting out any possible corruption or wrong-doing in the process of distributing these monitor arrangements.

One such example of the potential for politicization has arisen in the agreement between Zimmer Holdings and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of New Jersey, in which U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie chose his former supervisor, namely former Attorney General John Ashcroft, as the corporate monitor. Pursuant to this agreement, Zimmer Holdings has agreed to pay Mr. Ashcroft’s firm anywhere from $28 to $52 million. Prior to Mr. Ashcroft’s appointment, however, there was neither public notice of the monitor position nor any public bidding for the assignment.

More sworn testimony before the House a year earlier in re yet more ethically-challenged Christie shenanigans in another no-bid contract, at the tax payers expense:

Mr. Christie is needed in this hearing in part because he awarded a $10 million monitorship contract to a former public official that served in the Morris County board of freeholders. A contract that was paid by UMDNJ, a public education entity, meaning that taxpayers footed the bill.

Hey, how about this one? Does this sound even remotely kosher to YOU?

Christie went after 5 medical companies. The only one that that avoided criminal complaint was Stryker, who coincedentaly was monitored by John Carley and employee of the Cendant Corporation where Christie owned stocks.

In 2004, two top executives of Cendant Corp. went on trial after Christie’s office charged that they managed a conspiracy to inflate the company’s earnings to drive up its stock price. The jury began deliberating on the fate of former Chairman Walter Forbes and former vice chairman, E. Kirk Shelton, in November. On Dec. 30, just days before the jury announced its verdict, Christie purchased Cendant stock valued at up to $15,000 according to his personal financial disclosure statement.

In March 2005, Christie’s office filed a motion to intervene in a civil case against former Cendant Chairman Walter Forbes, citing his upcoming retrial on criminal charges.

Christie sold his stock so cendent in August 2005, Christie campaign spokeswoman Maria Comella said. Just 2 months later the Cendant Corporation broke into 4 different companies.

Christie was the only person responsible for supervising his agreements and the only person with the discretion to enter a non-prosecution agreement.

Christie gave a $46,000 interest-bearing loan to one of his subordinates, yet somehow "forgot" to list the interest income on his income tax statements for two successive years. He only payed up when he got caught:

His personal tax returns for that year, which had been provided by the candidate to The Star-Ledger months ago, also did not reflect any interest income from the loan as required. And in a lengthy interview last winter, Christie spoke in detail about his finances and assets, but had omitted any reference to the Brown loan. The mortgage first came to light on Monday.

"A prosecutor at his level should know that once he gave that loan, no matter how well-intended it was, it changed the relationship between Mr. Christie and Ms. Brown," Pascrell said.

Here's an at least interesting coincidence about the woman he gave the loan to, Michelle Brown. No smoking gun and possibly innocent and clean as the pure driven snow, but it sure kinda' smells bad:

Meanwhile, remember the ginormous sweetheart deal that Chris Christie got his former boss, John Ashcroft, into? Where Ashcroft and his buddies made up to $52 million monitoring a deferred prosecution agreement of a medical device firm? And remember how, contrary to Christie’s claim that no one ever complained about those exorbitant fees, Zimmer’s lawyers were going crazy when they discovered that not only was Ashcroft basically charging them unlimited amounts, but was also pressuring them on further legal issues that seemed rather overblown?

Well, the first person they addressed their "going crazy" emails to was Michele Brown (and all the subsequent emails were cc’ed to her).

Michele,

I believe you and Chris are in Warsaw already. I wanted to alert you to a potential issue with the Zimmer Monitor. On Friday evening, Zimmer received a proposed fee agreement from the Ashcroft Group. Zimmer was told the agreement needed to be in place by Tuesday morning.

I have to tell you I was shocked by the proposed fee agreement.

Brown responds on Tuesday morning (that is, when Ashcroft’s company was demanding a response) and says:

Rick–Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I’ll discuss it with Chris so we’re prepared to address it at the appropriate time.

The email thread goes on as Ashcroft’s people get crankier and cranker about not getting paid and as Christie starts dangling other purported violations to add to the pressure to sign the fee agreement.

In what is surely just one of those remarkable coincidences, the last email in the chain submitted to HJC was written on October 22, 2007–the day Brown finalized her loan from Christie.

WOW! No ticket, no summons, nothing??

Christie was driving a rented BMW sedan and apparently had lost his way when he attempted to turn right onto a street that was one-way in the other direction, according to the police report. A motorcyclist, Andre Mendonca of Elizabeth, was riding towards Christie, and both men saw one another and put on the brakes, police said. Christie's vehicle came to a stop, and the motorcycle then "fell on its side and slid into his vehicle," according to the police report.

Mendonca was taken by ambulance to University Hospital in Newark, Cosgrove said. He said he did not know the extent of Mendonca's injuries or "the seriousness of the condition." Mendonca could not be reached for comment tonight.

When an officer arrived at the scene, Christie explained what happened and said he was on his way to the swearing-in ceremony of Union County Prosecutor Theodore Romankow, Cosgrove said.

"He did identify himself as U.S. attorney," Cosgrove said.

Christie's car was towed from the scene, and Christie was allowed to continue on to the swearing-in event, which was about eight or 10 blocks from the scene of the accident, Cosgrove said.

Well, at least he didn't LIE about it:

We asked Christie about the accident in Atlantic City Friday and he was very curt with his answers. NJN South Jersey Bureau Chief Kent St. John asked if there was a lawsuit. Christie said “no” then “nope.”

But actually there was. According to the Superior Court Record Center in Trenton, Mendonca filed suit in 2004. The complaint filed in Essex County was later dismissed, indicating ( according to the Clerk ) an out of court settlement.

Ok, her LIED about it, and maybe he used his position and influence to get out of a ticket, but only this one time, right?

This happened in Lambertville. Bonus, LOOK who was in the car with him and got out of the car and flashed her DA badge at the cops!

Contradiction # 1:

On how it was discovered that Chris Christie was US Attorney, this was the original explanation:

His campaign acknowledged Aug. 26 that Christie's job as U.S. Attorney came up at the stop as Christie handed over his license and identification to the police officer.

After his campaign acknowledged the topic came up, the Chief of Police said this:

Lambertville Police Director Bruce Cocuzza: "He identified himself as a U.S. Attorney but I don't think the officer on duty knew what that was," he said.
So the Chief says Christie identified himself and the campaign says it was at the time of showing identification. But now, Christie says it wasn't him, it was the one armed man... err tow truck driver:

Christie said that he had not identified himself as the U.S. attorney, but that a tow truck driver had recognized him.

No offense, but Christie's name ID in 2005 probably registered just above mine. That's like me saying that I got a flat on the highway and the tow truck driver fixed it all for free because he recognized me as a writer for Blue Jersey. This latest iteration of the story came four days after the initial campaign response. If it's such a simple situation, what's with the delay in between this latest update? That wasn't the only change in the story made.

Contradiction # 2:

Originally we got this on how Christie reacted to the situation:

"He was agitated at the prospect of his vehicle being towed away," said Cocuzza, a Democrat who ran for Hunterdon County Sheriff in 2007, told PolitickerNJ.com's Max Pizarro in a phone interview. "He was worried about his family being left on the side of the road with no vehicle."
[snip]

Cocuzza said that Christie did tell the officer about his law enforcement position.

"He was a little loud at the prospect of being towed and then calmed down."

But Christie disputed that report:

Lambertville Police Director Bruce Cocuzza reported that Christie got loud during the stop, but Christie described his demeanor only as "affirmative." "I don't think I got loud or abusive, but I certainly was saying 'let me drive my car home and I will take care of the oversight on the registration on my wife's car when the DMV opens up on Monday,' which we did," Christie said.
What a perfectly scripted talking point in response to this situation, well done by whoever wrote it for him. And Christie wasn't done correcting the record.

Contradiction # 3:

On who got out of the car, when and why:

Christie also denied a report that Brown got out of the car during the stop and flashed her badge. She resigned as first assistant U.S. attorney on Tuesday after it was revealed that Christie had loaned her $46,000. Christie said only he got out of the vehicle, at the officer's request.

I always thought you were supposed to stay in the car. And we weren't done yet.

Contradiction # 4:

On whether the car was insured, first we got this:

New Jersey 101.5 FM reported this afternoon that Christie, now the Republican gubernatorial nominee, was stopped for speeding in what turned out to be an unregistered, uninsured vehicle, but was allowed to drive the car away.

The ticket clearly says uninsured vehicle, But now we have this update from

Christie:
He was also ticketed for not having insurance or registration. He said the car, which belonged to his wife, was insured, but she had allowed the registration to lapse.

But other than that, he's an excellent driver, right?

State motor vehicle documents show that since 1985, Christie, 46, has racked up 25 violation points (not all at one time), has been in six accidents and was cited 13 times for moving violations, including five without points.

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Chris Christie is an ethically impeccable corruption and influence fighter just like Ronald Reagan was a fiscally prudent deficit buster!

Now that you've been confronted with this side of him, you simply can't continue to pretend that he's this ethically pure white knight.

Right?

:biggrin:

 

[nageov3t]

god damn, I don't think I've seen a Harvey macro post since the Bush admin was in office.

 

[Doppel]

100 yards to him is like a 3 mile sprint to the rest of us, guy seems to be packing it on like he's paid for it. That said, overall I do really like what he's doing. I don't know if he can defend this or not, it certainly seems silly but there may be more to it as there generally is.

 

[Ape]

god damn, I don't think I've seen a Harvey macro post since the Bush admin was in office.

And just like Harvey, he thinks walls of OT text are going to be read.

 

[Perknose]

And just like Harvey, he thinks walls of OT text are going to be read.

Awwww, challenged by reading more than one paragraph of facts.

Too much for you, dear?

Blame Christie's looooooong and documented record of corruption abuse, which he's been able to get away with because of infantile ADD twerps like and loki. Why don't you two get a room and try making it through an illustrated comic and working up to adult fare from there?

 

[UberNeuman]

Remember when there was only one set of footprints in the sand?

It was when I walked away because your ass was too heavy to carry...

\cheap fat joke, but I said it...

 

[LegendKiller]

And just like Harvey, he thinks walls of OT text are going to be read.

Sadly, the addled brains on here can't fathom an attention span lasting more than 30 seconds taken to post/read a silly little quip like above or some bullshit news feed from faux newz.

 

[werepossum]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110602/ap_on_re_us/us_christie_helicopter

AP: NJ gov reimburses state for helicopter flights
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By BETH DeFALCO, Associated Press Beth Defalco, Associated Press – 16 mins ago
TRENTON, N.J. –
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and the State Republican Committee are reimbursing the state for the governor's personal use of a state police helicopter, which includes two trips to watch his oldest son's baseball games, a spokeswoman for Christie said Thursday.

Christie has paid $2,251 to the state to cover the cost of all trips, said Maria Comella, his spokeswoman.

The state GOP paid $1,232 to cover a helicopter trip Christie and his wife made to Princeton on Tuesday, flying 75 miles from a game in Montvale for a meeting with a group of top GOP campaign contributors from Iowa, Comella said.

"As the chief of State Police said yesterday, the air travel didn't cost taxpayers any additional dollars and fell under the protection unit's normal security responsibilities," Comella said. "But the governor understands the sensitivity about this kind of thing and believes he owes it to the public to ensure that this is not a distraction."

"We have some big, important reform measures that the governor is committed to getting done and that's where everyone's focus needs to be," she told The Associated Press.

On Wednesday, a spokesman for the first-term GOP governor said the helicopter use was appropriate and that Christie doesn't reimburse the state for security and travel.

I personally don't have a problem with him traveling by helicopter any more than I have a problem with Obama taking vacations, but I'm glad to see he's reimbursing the state. I think though that part of that is spin; I'm pretty sure that travel to and from a purely political event has to be reimbursed at the going first class rate. And if the reason he had to travel by helicopter was because of pressing political events, then morally those too should have been reimbursed.

 

[Ape]

Awwww, challenged by reading more than one paragraph of facts.

Too much for you, dear?

Blame Christie's looooooong and documented record of corruption abuse, which he's been able to get away with because of infantile ADD twerps like and loki. Why don't you two get a room and try making it through an illustrated comic and working up to adult fare from there?

I'm not from NJ so whatever he does isn't my problem. If he were a national figure that would be a different story dear.

Besides, walls of OT text in the middle of a thread hardly get attention........ever. Well at least not the attention the wall of TO text poster will be looking for.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Bullshit. Officials should never use expensive transportation for personal needs.

 

[werepossum]

Wasn't this info hard to find?

And of course a left wing British rag report about a BOOK is obviously the definitive word on death threats, correct? I mean, that number is reported on EVERY foaming moonbat web site, so it MUST be true.

Well, at least as of December '09 the Secret Service took the unprecedented step of publicly addressing that number. While the Secret Service by policy does not discuss death threats, the Director did state in open session that the level of death threats is about the same as for Bush and Clinton, NOT 400% greater. (Which contrary to the looney left's math would be five times as great rather than four times as great.) This was invented in '08 as campaign fodder and it remains a potent little bit of disinformation.

Bit of a bombshell at this morning's Homeland Security Committee hearing:

U.S. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan dismissed published reports that the level of death threats against President Obama are four times greater than typical threat levels against recent presidents — claiming the current volume of threats is comparable to that under George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

"It's not [a] 400 percent [increase]," Sullivan said during a heated exchange with Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), who suggested the service needed additional agents to protect the first African-American president.

"I'm not sure where that number comes from," he said, adding that the number of threats against Obama "are the same level as it has been [against] the last two presidents."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glenn...Obama_no_greater_than_under_Bush_Clinton.html

Got to give you lefties credit for your excellent circular indoctrination. One moonbat makes a false claim and every far left moonbat hatchery takes up the gauntlet to ensure that every Kool-aid drinker ingrains the approved message into his/her/its rat brain. Pavlov would be proud.

 

[LegendKiller]

I personally don't have a problem with him traveling by helicopter any more than I have a problem with Obama taking vacations, but I'm glad to see he's reimbursing the state. I think though that part of that is spin; I'm pretty sure that travel to and from a purely political event has to be reimbursed at the going first class rate. And if the reason he had to travel by helicopter was because of pressing political events, then morally those too should have been reimbursed.

There's a huge fucking difference between the president of the United States taking a vacation and having to carry dozens of people with him and a "fiscal conservative" governor who wants to cut costs everywhere but wants to go see his kid's baseball game and then fly back to see fund raisers.

The fact you can't distinguish between the two is only par for the course for faux "conservatives".

More "do as I say, not as I do" from conservatives. From Reagan's "fiscal conservative" cut tax/debt bullshit, to GW's cut tax/debt bullshit to the toe-tapping guy in the MSP airport to the numerous gay scandals. It's all the same, bob allen, mark foley, ted haggard, Newt, Trump, Palin's "family values" and fiscal conservatism while almost driving Wasila to BK. But that's OK, keep excusing it.

 

[nageov3t]

Awwww, challenged by reading more than one paragraph of facts.

Too much for you, dear?

Blame Christie's looooooong and documented record of corruption abuse, which he's been able to get away with because of infantile ADD twerps like and loki. Why don't you two get a room and try making it through an illustrated comic and working up to adult fare from there?

I have it on good authority that personal attacks are a great way to sell people on your argument

 

[Craig234]

Awwww, challenged by reading more than one paragraph of facts.

Too much for you, dear?

Blame Christie's looooooong and documented record of corruption abuse, which he's been able to get away with because of infantile ADD twerps like and loki. Why don't you two get a room and try making it through an illustrated comic and working up to adult fare from there?

You're dealing with willfully ignorant ideologues who do not want facts.

Their opinions are based on irrational views, so facts just waste their time.

 

[Craig234]

I have it on good authority that personal attacks are a great way to sell people on your argument

So, you don't care what the truth is, you will base your agreement on people complimenting you and lying to you? Explains a lot.

That's actually a big way con men and right-wing leaders do lie to people, for example why the liars who push the 'liberal media' lie do so well with it.

"THE LIBERAL MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU! You can only get correct info from the right, who really care about your well being! Just sigh right here, and we'll take care of it."