Gotta love domestic cars.

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: notfred
Whgen was the last time you bought a crankshaft for a Honda for $20

I as well have never had to replace a crankshaft on my toyotas or hondas. I'm glad you enjoy having to replace parts on your car If that make you happy then you should definitely keep buying domestic.

A) You normally don't need to replace a crank on a car that's making double digit horsepower B) Replace "domestic" with "higher powered cars", and you're all set

My Honda makes 240 stock. OOOOOPS!

FWD cars don't count.

 

[StageLeft]

When was the last time your honda needed a crankshaft? Gotta love import cars.

 

[djdrastic]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: notfred
Whgen was the last time you bought a crankshaft for a Honda for $20

I as well have never had to replace a crankshaft on my toyotas or hondas. I'm glad you enjoy having to replace parts on your car If that make you happy then you should definitely keep buying domestic.

A) You normally don't need to replace a crank on a car that's making double digit horsepower B) Replace "domestic" with "higher powered cars", and you're all set

My Honda makes 240 stock. OOOOOPS!

FWD cars don't count.

Dude , but how much torque ? ? ? Torque = Everything !!!

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
When was the last time your honda needed a crankshaft? Gotta love import cars.

When was the last time your lawnmower needed a crankshaft? Gotta love lawn mowers.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: djdrastic

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: notfred
Whgen was the last time you bought a crankshaft for a Honda for $20

I as well have never had to replace a crankshaft on my toyotas or hondas. I'm glad you enjoy having to replace parts on your car If that make you happy then you should definitely keep buying domestic.

A) You normally don't need to replace a crank on a car that's making double digit horsepower B) Replace "domestic" with "higher powered cars", and you're all set

My Honda makes 240 stock. OOOOOPS!

FWD cars don't count.

Dude , but how much torque ? ? ? Torque = Everything !!!

Probably 19 ft lbs of torque.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Skoorb
When was the last time your honda needed a crankshaft? Gotta love import cars.

When was the last time your lawnmower needed a crankshaft? Gotta love lawn mowers.

Whoa notfred bought this for his lawnmower?!

 

[The Sauce]

Originally posted by: djdrastic

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: notfred
Whgen was the last time you bought a crankshaft for a Honda for $20

I as well have never had to replace a crankshaft on my toyotas or hondas. I'm glad you enjoy having to replace parts on your car If that make you happy then you should definitely keep buying domestic.

A) You normally don't need to replace a crank on a car that's making double digit horsepower B) Replace "domestic" with "higher powered cars", and you're all set

My Honda makes 240 stock. OOOOOPS!

FWD cars don't count.

Dude , but how much torque ? ? ? Torque = Everything !!!

Then why did you ask about HP??? 220 ft/lb @ 5,000rpm. Is that enough? Or do all your domestic explode-mobiles make more?

 

[StageLeft]

Then why did you ask about HP??? 220 ft/lb @ 5,000rpm. Is that enough? Or do all your domestic explode-mobiles make more?

Domestic fanboi5 are just p1553d that they need engine rebuilds every 1500 miles and new crankshafts every time they change their gas!

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: djdrastic

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: notfred
Whgen was the last time you bought a crankshaft for a Honda for $20

I as well have never had to replace a crankshaft on my toyotas or hondas. I'm glad you enjoy having to replace parts on your car If that make you happy then you should definitely keep buying domestic.

A) You normally don't need to replace a crank on a car that's making double digit horsepower B) Replace "domestic" with "higher powered cars", and you're all set

My Honda makes 240 stock. OOOOOPS!

FWD cars don't count.

Dude , but how much torque ? ? ? Torque = Everything !!!

Then why did you ask about HP??? 220 ft/lb @ 5,000rpm. Is that enough? Or do all your domestic explode-mobiles make more?

Yes lots more. Why? Probably 500 more ft lbs...

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Skoorb
When was the last time your honda needed a crankshaft? Gotta love import cars.

When was the last time your lawnmower needed a crankshaft? Gotta love lawn mowers.

Whoa notfred bought this for his lawnmower?!

No, just making a point that econoboxes have their place, and that place doesn't include being compared to a blown 302

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Then why did you ask about HP??? 220 ft/lb @ 5,000rpm. Is that enough? Or do all your domestic explode-mobiles make more?

Domestic fanboi5 are just p1553d that they need engine rebuilds every 1500 miles and new crankshafts every time they change their gas!

You will convert one day. I promise.

 

[zCypher]

lol, a high end 305 TPI from 1988 firebirds make 240hp and something like 320ft-lbs of torque. And that's a measly 305. Yea I'd say that kicks your honda's ass

and that's from a 15 year old car. Let's see your 15 year old honda make that kind of power.

 

[StageLeft]

No, just making a point that econoboxes have their place, and that place doesn't include being compared to a blown 302

Man I'll take a honda over a car with a blown engine any day

 

[zCypher]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

No, just making a point that econoboxes have their place, and that place doesn't include being compared to a blown 302

Man I'll take a honda over a car with a blown engine any day

That's just about the only thing those cars are good for. Cheap on gas, and difficult to kill. However, you can kill any car/engine.. beat the crap out of it every day, and it won't last, no matter who made it. They do take quite a beating though. Then again, I've heard good things about the 350 being dependable.

 

[5LiterMustang]

Originally posted by: Phokus
I'm not buying another domestic car until they get some competent engineers

Contrary to everyone's beliefs American car companies have some of the best engineers in the world. GM has some of the BEST motor engineers in the world and they do have the best tranny engineers. Mercedes, BMW, Rolls Royce (now owned by BMW) all by their transmission from GM. The LS1/LS6 motor is one of the best motors in the history of the internal combustion engine. Many reguard it as "low tech" but the 346 cu in V8 gets 20mpg in the city and 30 on the highway if you keep your foot out of it.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: zCypher
lol, a high end 305 TPI from 1988 firebirds make 240hp and something like 320ft-lbs of torque. And that's a measly 305. Yea I'd say that kicks your honda's ass

and that's from a 15 year old car. Let's see your 15 year old honda make that kind of power.

Not really a heck of a lot of horsepower. Many of the imports with 6 cylinders are making that kind of power - Hondas (Accord V6), Nissans (Maxima, Altima) etc.

And they do it much more efficiently and economically too. And their motors don't weigh half as much as those cast iron boat anchors either. Not to mention being much more reliable too.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang

Originally posted by: Phokus
I'm not buying another domestic car until they get some competent engineers

Contrary to everyone's beliefs American car companies have some of the best engineers in the world. GM has some of the BEST motor engineers in the world and they do have the best tranny engineers. Mercedes, BMW, Rolls Royce (now owned by BMW) all by their transmission from GM. The LS1/LS6 motor is one of the best motors in the history of the internal combustion engine. Many reguard it as "low tech" but the 346 cu in V8 gets 20mpg in the city and 30 on the highway if you keep your foot out of it.

Where in the world did you here that. The only european auto manufacturer to buy transmissions from an American company was Jaguar.

BTW, next years Dodge vans will actually be manufactured by Freightliner and have Mercedes drivetrains in them. I guess they are much more reliable than the currect B-Series vans.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: djdrastic

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Snatchface

Originally posted by: notfred
Whgen was the last time you bought a crankshaft for a Honda for $20

I as well have never had to replace a crankshaft on my toyotas or hondas. I'm glad you enjoy having to replace parts on your car If that make you happy then you should definitely keep buying domestic.

A) You normally don't need to replace a crank on a car that's making double digit horsepower B) Replace "domestic" with "higher powered cars", and you're all set

My Honda makes 240 stock. OOOOOPS!

FWD cars don't count.

Dude , but how much torque ? ? ? Torque = Everything !!!

Then why did you ask about HP??? 220 ft/lb @ 5,000rpm. Is that enough? Or do all your domestic explode-mobiles make more?

Yes lots more. Why? Probably 500 more ft lbs...

In another thread, Snatchface was trying to convince us that his Accord was a sports car.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Then why did you ask about HP??? 220 ft/lb @ 5,000rpm. Is that enough? Or do all your domestic explode-mobiles make more?

Domestic fanboi5 are just p1553d that they need engine rebuilds every 1500 miles and new crankshafts every time they change their gas!

Not that I'm a fanboy of anything, but my 14 year old domestic, while cranking out more torque than any stock honda motor makes, has run like a watch since I've bought it. It threw a bearing in the tranny (bearing is getting replaced as of now), but I repeat: let's see a 14 year old 4 cyl (import/domestic, whatever) make that power for that long. I'm actually one of the less fortunate ones, the tranny in my car is reliable for up to 250ft-lbs, however mine crapped out on me prematurely for some reason

 

[AlienCraft]

Yep, The Z series and X series are some of the finest AMERICAN Cars ever built. Everything , except the moto/transmission combo, is manufactured in the US.
BMW is still amazed that a bunch of rednecks in SC kick the German's A$$ when it comes to detected defects.
Buy American .... Buy BMW!!

<Brother works for BMW......

 

[Staples]

Originally posted by: 5LiterMustang

Originally posted by: Phokus
I'm not buying another domestic car until they get some competent engineers

Contrary to everyone's beliefs American car companies have some of the best engineers in the world. GM has some of the BEST motor engineers in the world and they do have the best tranny engineers. Mercedes, BMW, Rolls Royce (now owned by BMW) all by their transmission from GM. The LS1/LS6 motor is one of the best motors in the history of the internal combustion engine. Many reguard it as "low tech" but the 346 cu in V8 gets 20mpg in the city and 30 on the highway if you keep your foot out of it.

Although it may be true that American car companies have the best engineers, American car companies undercut R&D budgets so no matter how good the staff, most American cars end up being unreliable after the first few years. There are tons of other companies outside the US that do this too. Usually it is a handful of parts that break down in the same car time and time again and the rest of the parts are just fine.

 

[Linux23]

damn, my father had his DOMESTIC car for over 15 years and not a single problem (besides regular maintenance).


Damn that American Reliability.

 

[TrueBlueLS]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Then why did you ask about HP??? 220 ft/lb @ 5,000rpm. Is that enough? Or do all your domestic explode-mobiles make more?

Domestic fanboi5 are just p1553d that they need engine rebuilds every 1500 miles and new crankshafts every time they change their gas!

So if I've just put about 13,300 miles on my car, my engine has been rebuilt 8 times and it's had a new crankshaft about 532 times? I must be overdue... time to head to the dealership and ask them what's wrong with my car.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: zCypher
lol, a high end 305 TPI from 1988 firebirds make 240hp and something like 320ft-lbs of torque. And that's a measly 305. Yea I'd say that kicks your honda's ass

and that's from a 15 year old car. Let's see your 15 year old honda make that kind of power.

Not really a heck of a lot of horsepower. Many of the imports with 6 cylinders are making that kind of power - Hondas (Accord V6), Nissans (Maxima, Altima) etc.

And they do it much more efficiently and economically too. And their motors don't weigh half as much as those cast iron boat anchors either. Not to mention being much more reliable too.

wow, you just compared a new v6 to a 15 year old v8. good job.

 

[Talon02]

My good old 33 year old American 4 liter inline six has 140000 miles on it with one rebuild, and a complete rebuild costs $300. take the sticker price plus maintenance <$8000 divide by 33, $242 a year, now that is pretty damn efficient for a car making 240 ft/lbs of torque.