Got my AR15

[PCTweaker5]

Yeah, I could always go for the fiveseven if anything, looks kinda funky though but I bet that pierces armor nicely. I want to be a cop so I want to have something that is gonna do the job in any situation.

 

[DeadByDawn]

Do they happen to make any pistols that fire that .17 hornady or whatever ammo? Im a bit tired of my 12 guage single shot and since I am a bit worried to be shootin an AK out here by D.C. I think I need to get my self something small and fun or just a kick ass rifle.

They make a thompson encore barrel in that round. I shot one of those in a .223 the other day, accurate as hell for a pistol. A blast to shoot.

 

[BadNewsBears]

for a defense pistol .17hmr is not a good choice. A human stopper is a good springieldarmory 1911 in 45 acp. Medium butbuisnesslike recoil.

 

[edro]

Here is my dad's Colt A2

 

[PCTweaker5]

The FiveSeven from Fabrique Nationale sounds like awesome stopping power.

 

[PCTweaker5]

Originally posted by: edro13
Here is my dad's Colt A2

You look scared as f*ck!

 

[MiniDoom]

Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5
The FiveSeven from Fabrique Nationale sounds like awesome stopping power.

Ummm.... no. Stopping power would be a 45 ACP, 44 Mag, etc. The big, wide bullets. The Five-Seven was designed to pierce armor using a thin bullet moving fast. It'll penetrate better than a 45 against armor, but most times when you shoot people they dont have armor, and thus a Five-Seven is a bad choice for personal defense.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

 

[PCTweaker5]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5
The FiveSeven from Fabrique Nationale sounds like awesome stopping power.

Ummm.... no. Stopping power would be a 45 ACP, 44 Mag, etc. The big, wide bullets. The Five-Seven was designed to pierce armor using a thin bullet moving fast. It'll penetrate better than a 45 against armor, but most times when you shoot people they dont have armor, and thus a Five-Seven is a bad choice for personal defense.

But the bullet is designed to leave a bigger cavity wound thus incapacitating the victim furthermore. I dont mean stopping as in the guy is gonna fly back, I mean stopping as in the person is gonna fall to the floor in extreme pain or die instantly without having to put another round in them. I think it is an excellent personal defense weapon for when those bullets dont pierce the skull. The design of the bullet is made for penetration and not to overpenetrate which you will learn if you check it out on the FN site. We both have different definitions of stopping power so I dont have an arguement with what you believe in I would just prefer this to the heavy recoil of a .45 with still the same effect.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

 

[K1052]

Looks like an SAR1, imported by Century Arms. I have one of these myself

Overall I am happy with the rifle. Fit and finish is not the best out of the AKs available in the US, but it is ok. I think that I have about 3500 rounds through mine without any problems only using Wolf ammo.

 

[PCTweaker5]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

But is it gonna be legal? They sell full auto kits for AK's but when I talked to the guy where I bought my AK from he said that there was no way I could make it legit if I installed that part but its possible he just wanted me to buy the full auto version for 8k.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

you can buy every part online except for the lower receiver which has to go thru your local FFL holder/dealer..its best to buy as assemblies as well..was a pain to set up an A2 rear sight..

 

[MiniDoom]

ok, AK47 for 350.00$, or shell out an extra 100.00$ and build my own AR15 for 450.00$?

 

[PCTweaker5]

Id personally go for the AK. Probably the most reliable gun in the world under all conditions with a good amount of power.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

But is it gonna be legal? They sell full auto kits for AK's but when I talked to the guy where I bought my AK from he said that there was no way I could make it legit if I installed that part but its possible he just wanted me to buy the full auto version for 8k.

Yes, it is legal. All those kits are fror semi-auto firearms, not full auto.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
ok, AK47 for 350.00$, or shell out an extra 100.00$ and build my own AR15 for 450.00$?

The AR will end up costing closer to $600 after finding a lower receiver and the FFL fee.

 

[PCTweaker5]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

But is it gonna be legal? They sell full auto kits for AK's but when I talked to the guy where I bought my AK from he said that there was no way I could make it legit if I installed that part but its possible he just wanted me to buy the full auto version for 8k.

Yes, it is legal. All those kits are fror semi-auto firearms, not full auto.

Errr, what? The kits I saw were to convert semi to full auto.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

But is it gonna be legal? They sell full auto kits for AK's but when I talked to the guy where I bought my AK from he said that there was no way I could make it legit if I installed that part but its possible he just wanted me to buy the full auto version for 8k.

semiauto following proper ATF guidelines is what I'm referring to..not circumvention of law..under ATF rulings you are allowed to build your own..just read before jumping..then again mine's pre'94..

Errr, what? The kits I saw were to convert semi to full auto.

[/quote] if you notice you will have to contact for those parts..you will have to provide documentation (which you will have to get from the ATF and possibly your CLEO) to purchase/possess regulated parts..read up on the NFA of 1934..

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
ok, AK47 for 350.00$, or shell out an extra 100.00$ and build my own AR15 for 450.00$?

The AR will end up costing closer to $600 after finding a lower receiver and the FFL fee.

Just relized that. I'm a cheap a$$ anyway so I will probably go with the AK. Thanks

 

[PCTweaker5]

Read before jumping? I was just putting in my .02 cents of what little I knew of the situation. But ok, have fun!

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

But is it gonna be legal? They sell full auto kits for AK's but when I talked to the guy where I bought my AK from he said that there was no way I could make it legit if I installed that part but its possible he just wanted me to buy the full auto version for 8k.

Yes, it is legal. All those kits are fror semi-auto firearms, not full auto.

Errr, what? The kits I saw were to convert semi to full auto.

I was talking about the ones on the site he was looking at. You very well may have seen the parts to convert an AK to full auto. However, anyone installing them who is not properly licensed by the ATF would be spending some quality time at Club Fed. All full auto firearms are classified as NFA weapons and no new machineguns can be built for sale to the public.

 

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
ok, AK47 for 350.00$, or shell out an extra 100.00$ and build my own AR15 for 450.00$?

The AR will end up costing closer to $600 after finding a lower receiver and the FFL fee.

Just relized that. I'm a cheap a$$ anyway so I will probably go with the AK. Thanks

Good choice!

<-----AK owner

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Thinking about getting this, any good? can't $$$ an AR15.

have one like it..ARs are not as expensive as most think..I like this site (I built mine) and for Illinois..these guys..1st ARs were 1/14 twist..then 1/12..then 1/7 ..currently 1/9(some custom twists as well)..which is best for heavier match bullets..

holy $hi t!, I can just build my own for around 450.00$ I had no idea. Thanks

But is it gonna be legal? They sell full auto kits for AK's but when I talked to the guy where I bought my AK from he said that there was no way I could make it legit if I installed that part but its possible he just wanted me to buy the full auto version for 8k.

Yes, it is legal. All those kits are fror semi-auto firearms, not full auto.

Errr, what? The kits I saw were to convert semi to full auto.

I was talking about the ones on the site he was looking at. You very well may have seen the parts to convert an AK to full auto. However, anyone installing them who is not properly licensed by the ATF would be spending some quality time at Club Fed. All full auto firearms are classified as NFA weapons and no new machineguns can be built for sale to the public.

nice quote from ATF..

(A7) Does the GCA prohibit anyone from making a handgun, shotgun or rifle? [Back]


With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a nonlicensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms.
However, a person is prohibited from making a semiautomatic assault weapon or assembling a nonsporting semiautomatic rifle or nonsporting shotgun from
imported parts. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and approval by ATF. An application to make a machinegun will not be
approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a federal or state agency. [18 U. S. C. 922( o), (r), (v), and 923, 27 CFR 178.39, 178.40, 178.41 and 179.105]