Got Gas? U.S. Economy to Worsen as Gas Prices Skyrocket

[Doppel]

SUV and pick up truck sales are up from last year.

Light duty trucks up 7%.
Pick ups up over 12%.
Midsize SUV up over 17%.
Large SUV down almost 8%.
Small SUV up over 26%.
Luxury SUV up over 9%.

In other words, people are @*#(ing insane.

It's the slow boiling frog metaphor.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Also, the recession is slowly... receding.

Any info on what the total car sales numbers are? The fact that small SUV's went up 26% compared to "Large" at 8% shows a bit there. If car sales in general went up 15%, that would mean that we are still buying smaller.....

 

[heymrdj]

In other words, people are @*#(ing insane.

It's the slow boiling frog metaphor.

My other post alluded to this. Alot of people I've talked to say they are getting shafted either way, in the grand scheme the gas price isn't that much more on them. Again the fuel mileage difference between an SUV and a car can still come to longer than the life of the vehicle.

To an extent it's the choice from automakers (though I'm not sure how much is actually on their heads and whats just the economy still causing things to cost more than income). But what I see is fully loaded economy tin cans hitting 25000$ (honda fit, kia soul, and the big offenders like the Ford Fiesta, and Mazda 3). You can pay just a little more than that and get a much higher quality vehicle with more room and power. For alot of people it's a no brainer.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Or you can pay a lot more than that for an SUV with something a bit more than AM radio and power windows.

 

[heymrdj]

Or you can pay a lot more than that for an SUV with something a bit more than AM radio and power windows.

Really? I guess you haven't configured any C-Ute's lately. All the smaller SUV's come with more luxury for nearly the same price. Examples. The Hyundai can't even have a touch screen smart radio (just not available even at 23,000). Soul requires the high end package just to get the UVO which adds alot of unnecessaries. Fiesta again just gets the dumbSync, no higher options without getting a Focus. Leather not available in a Rio (or many of the other small cars for that matter). No towing package, not even class I. Trunk space only, sedans are vertically challanged with fewer models able to create a flat plane between the back seats and the trunk.

It goes on and on.

 

[dmcowen674]

Oil back over $104

Gas shot up 20 cents overnight. Back to ~$4.30 in burbs ~$4.50 in Chicago.


4-20-2012

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...eedType=RSS&feedName=industrialsSector&rpc=43

Crude ends higher on upbeat German sentiment



U.S. crude futures rose for the first time in three days on Friday, lifted by better-than-expected data on German business sentiment that helped ease worries about the euro zone debt crisis and improve the outlook for oil demand.

Gasoline registered its worst weekly performance in seven months, with fears of a supply crunch in the U.S. East Coast fading on the potential sale of one or two idled refineries in the region that could reopen and patch any production shortfall

 

[Doppel]

Gas shot up 20 cents overnight.

Nope, it sure didn't.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

 

[TheSlamma]

Nope, it sure didn't.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Don't post that here, for Dave this is Politics and Faux Newz. He hates the truth.

 

[dmcowen674]

Don't post that here, for Dave this is Politics and Faux Newz. He hates the truth.

He is not here physically looking at the gas station signs and web sites are behind.

The truth hurts him for unknown reason.

 

[heymrdj]

Nope, it sure didn't.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Don't post that here, for Dave this is Politics and Faux Newz. He hates the truth.

As much as I hate to agree with dm, you guys just make yourselves look stupid. Use a source that doesn't take 14 hours to update the day it's on. Gas Buddy clearly shows a 15-20 cent average increase in the last 13 hours alone. From 4.19 to 4.39+. My town of Fort Wayne has an 11 cent average increase in the last 18 hours.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Nope, it sure didn't.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Yeah huh, it sure did happen.


McOwned has never ever bent the truth much less lied about gas prices.

 

[heymrdj]

Yeah huh, it sure did happen.


McOwned has never ever bent the truth much less lied about gas prices.

Again one source is not a conclusion.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Again one source is not a conclusion.

True. However, as usual the evidence very seldom if ever backs up his claims.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx

 

[heymrdj]

True. However, as usual the evidence very seldom if ever backs up his claims.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx

I posted a proper gas buddy link showing the core of Chicago pricing and you're watering it down by using that large area. Des Plains? Really? Take a look at the link and you'll see, for the most part, it supports what he said. Again I said about 15-20, not just 20+, but regardless of that there is proof of it in several areas right now. I pumped up at 11 over yesterday this morning, and now it's 15 over yesterday.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I posted a proper gas buddy link showing the core of Chicago pricing and you're watering it down by using that large area. Des Plains? Really? Take a look at the link and you'll see, for the most part, it supports what he said. Again I said about 15-20, not just 20+, but regardless of that there is proof of it in several areas right now. I pumped up at 11 over yesterday this morning, and now it's 15 over yesterday.

Blame ChicagoGasPrices.com as that's the data that they provide, not me.

Guess it's bad to be living in that area, gas prices here have not changed in over 3 weeks.

Edited to add: Prices near me dropped overnight $0.04/gal.

 

[desy]

Gas prices
Who cares its variable, always has been, is expected to rise for heavier demand over summer like it ALWAYS does
whining over every variance is exhausting, if its price has that much impact on your day to day, make some hard choices about how you live. For yrs now I've pur forward that the NA lifestyle of driving everywhere is drawing to a close
Accept it, prepare and adapt to it

 

[Doppel]

As much as I hate to agree with dm, you guys just make yourselves look stupid. Use a source that doesn't take 14 hours to update the day it's on. Gas Buddy clearly shows a 15-20 cent average increase in the last 13 hours alone. From 4.19 to 4.39+. My town of Fort Wayne has an 11 cent average increase in the last 18 hours.

Speaking of making oneself look stupid, you realize that chicagogasprices.com is a sub-site of gasbuddy.com, right?

I posted a proper gas buddy link showing the core of Chicago pricing

Where is this mysterious link you're referring to?

 

[heymrdj]

Speaking of making oneself look stupid, you realize that chicagogasprices.com is a sub-site of gasbuddy.com, right?

Where is this mysterious link you're referring to?

If you read, your stupidity wouldn't be showing right now, but that's ok I'll excuse you from your brain.

Use Chicago in gasbuddy.com to get true chicago prices, not prices in friggin Des Plains .

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/Chicago/index.aspx

 

[Doppel]

If you read, your stupidity wouldn't be showing right now, but that's ok I'll excuse you from your brain.

Use Chicago in gasbuddy.com to get true chicago prices, not prices in friggin Des Plains .

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/Chicago/index.aspx

I just have no idea what you're talking about and neither do you.

Go back to post 8132.

Claim:
Gas shot up 20 cents overnight.
Dispute:
Nope, it sure didn't.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Your responses since are not organized and make no sense and the only link you've given has a chart on the left that says prices are stable in Chicago.

 

[dmcowen674]

As much as I hate to agree with dm, you guys just make yourselves look stupid. Use a source that doesn't take 14 hours to update the day it's on. Gas Buddy clearly shows a 15-20 cent average increase in the last 13 hours alone. From 4.19 to 4.39+. My town of Fort Wayne has an 11 cent average increase in the last 18 hours.

Those guys have been doing it for years.

Have no idea what motivates them to lie.

What are they gaining personally?

It's a mystery that will remain a mystery apparently.

 

[heymrdj]

I just have no idea what you're talking about and neither do you.

Go back to post 8132.

Claim:
Gas shot up 20 cents overnight.
Dispute:
Nope, it sure didn't.

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

Your responses since are not organized and make no sense and the only link you've given has a chart on the left that says prices are stable in Chicago.

*Sigh* Your retail price chart moves to slowly. Look at Chicago's main page, like I linked, and look at the prices of 4.65/gal.

 

[Doppel]

Those guys have been doing it for years.

Have no idea what motivates them to lie.

What are they gaining personally?

It's a mystery that will remain a mystery apparently.

Everybody here, including you, knows that you've nearly been banned for your deliberately inaccurate posts around here. Don't try and pretend otherwise.

*Sigh* Your retail price chart moves to slowly. Look at Chicago's main page, like I linked, and look at the prices of 4.65/gal.

OK, just so we're clear...despite you trying several times you still have no link showing that prices rose as much as you said. $4.65 at one station means nothing if it was the same yesterday, does it? Do you have any link that shows yesterday's price in Chicago and how much lower it was than today's? I DO. It's www.chicagogasprices.com and it shows none of these numbers you guys are claiming. I don't care about a single station. You can even remove the outskirts of the city if you like and I still have yet to see a single link or image showing these increases in prices claimed by you and mcowen.

 

[heymrdj]

Everybody here, including you, knows that you've nearly been banned for your deliberately inaccurate posts around here. Don't try and pretend otherwise.OK, just so we're clear...despite you trying several times you still have no link showing that prices rose as much as you said. $4.65 at one station means nothing if it was the same yesterday, does it? Do you have any link that shows yesterday's price in Chicago and how much lower it was than today's? I DO. It's www.chicagogasprices.com and it shows none of these numbers you guys are claiming. I don't care about a single station. You can even remove the outskirts of the city if you like and I still have yet to see a single link or image showing these increases in prices claimed by you and mcowen.

I trend the prices daily as i drive my routes at the stations I'm required to stop at because of our fuel card. According to your link the price shows the overall region is stable, but my fuel card says differently. When I get my end of month statement maybe I can show you that. The fortwayne page does show my spike I was talking about. I can't link it though from my tablet.

 

[chucky2]

I'm not sure why city of Chicago gas prices are seemingly so important. If you're in the suburbs they're anywhere from 15-40c lower, and pretty much everyone gases up there rather than in the city (unless u forgot to gas up, then it's your own fault). Next we have people that live in the city who drive outside it out to the suburbs...all these people will gas up in the suburbs also.

Lastly we have city dwellers who only drive in the city. These people are already choosing to live expensively and/or own a vehicle in a city with a fairly good public transpo system. So either its their fault for living someplace expensive, or, the high gas prices dont really affect them because they properly use the available public transpo.

in short: Whomever is paying city of Chicago gas prices continually is either well enough off they can afford it, and/or chose to live somewhere expensive, and/or is an idiot.

Chuck

 

[dmcowen674]

4-23-2012

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-says-gasoline-prices-still-201709496.html

Obama administration says gasoline prices still too high


Asked about whether falling gasoline prices seen recently have lessened the need to tap U.S. emergency oil reserves, Deputy Energy Secretary Daniel Poneman said: "We are very focused on prices, they are too high."


He said the administration is keeping "every tool available to us in a state that can be used. We are continually consulting with our international partners on this."