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Gorilla Lives Matter!

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dank69 said:
Time for all the conservatives that are always complaining about helicopter parents making their children soft and weak to heap all their moral disgust on to these parents for not watching their kid close enough. Let's all pretend that it isn't possible for a kid to do something incredibly dangerous in a span of 10 seconds.
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Is everything about partisan politics with you?
 
dank69 said:
Time for all the conservatives that are always complaining about helicopter parents making their children soft and weak to heap all their moral disgust on to these parents for not watching their kid close enough. Let's all pretend that it isn't possible for a kid to do something incredibly dangerous in a span of 10 seconds.
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But I have to blame somebody for all my unmet emotional needs.
 
buckshot24 said:
I had some nut tell me that the parents should be charged with manslaughter.
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Why not? Sounds the same as being able to charge a thief for being shot by a homeowner, because they were responsible for being shot.

How is this different? The parents caused the gorilla's death by dropping their little precious into the innocent gorilla's home.
 
zinfamous said:
Why not? Sounds the same as being able to charge a thief for being shot by a homeowner, because they were responsible for being shot.

How is this different? The parents caused the gorilla's death by dropping their little precious into the innocent gorilla's home.
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A thief was charged with manslaughter for being shot?
 
zinfamous said:
Why not? Sounds the same as being able to charge a thief for being shot by a homeowner, because they were responsible for being shot.

How is this different? The parents caused the gorilla's death by dropping their little precious into the innocent gorilla's home.
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I love you man but think about it. Ape = Man?
 
buckshot24 said:
A thief was charged with manslaughter for being shot?
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don't some states have that law? I know that in some situations when you have 2 criminals and one that is shot/killed by their target, the one that is not shot by the victim of their crime will be charged with his accomplice's murder/injury .


Why are you reading my posts? Aren't I on THE LIST? Are you just lying again about your list as you always do?
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I love you man but think about it. Ape = Man?
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I'm not saying that ape lives are equal to human lives. I get that such laws apply to humans and all that. Still, I think it's an interesting problem.

Yes, in this situation--the only choice when presented with it is to have taken out the ape to save the child. I do think the parents need to be punished, though.
 
zinfamous said:
don't some states have that law? I know that in some situations when you have 2 criminals and one that is shot/killed by their target, the one that is not shot by the victim of their crime will be charged with his accomplice's murder/injury .
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That would be strange.
Why are you reading my posts? Aren't I on THE LIST? Are you just lying again about your list as you always do?
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I'm on eternal optimist.()🙂
 
zinfamous said:
I'm not saying that ape lives are equal to human lives. I get that such laws apply to humans and all that. Still, I think it's an interesting problem.

Yes, in this situation--the only choice when presented with it is to have taken out the ape to save the child. I do think the parents need to be punished, though.
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What crime do you imagine these parents have committed?

EDIT: If this video is accurate the railings are woefully inadequate.
 
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dank69 said:
What crime do you imagine these parents have committed?
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I could envision something. Kid breaks your window with a baseball the Parents are liable because they are liable for their kids behavior. I could see something similar but as I said earlier I don't think it would be worthwhile for the zoo.
 
DrPizza said:
Even the best behaved and most watched children can and do wander away from time to time. Then again, that's generally in situations where the parents let their guard down. I remember the first time we took our little kids to the zoo - I was paranoid and kept an extra vigilant eye on the kids. Ditto Niagara Falls - 3 foot railing, then it's over the side you go. I still remember how tense I was, keeping an eye on the boys. (Actually, I think it's at least 42" at Niagara Falls, but in some areas, no fence at all, just a short rock wall.)


Also, Hello Ornery!
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sure even the best behaved kids wonder off. When in such a place like a zoo I am extra careful to keep an eye on them. I also talk about rules such as "no climbing on the cages" (yes i have a small boy who likes to climb on everything) and staying near me at all times.

I do think the parents were neglectful and have no issues with the zoo suing them.

Now i'm not sure criminal charges against the parents is possible though. i'm not an attorney so i don't know for sure.
 
This same thing happened some years ago, in Britain IIRC. The gorilla involved tended to the boy, even guarding it from the curiosity of other gorillas in the habit. All zoos keep a rifle on hand for emergencies, always have, but in that case it wasn't used because the gorilla wasn't behaving in a way that threatened the child.

Cut to this current incident, and there is a clear difference in body language from that gorilla from the beginning. You can see he was irritated by the crying, and his rough handling (later throwing!) of the kid clearly showed he didn't see the boy as a harmless, hairless infant - more like a toy, or maybe a new guy who didn't get the memo about who's boss in this enclosure.

I hate to say it, but the zoo did the right thing.

I don't blame the gorilla for acting like a gorilla. I do blame unaware parents and the zoos. If you can design an enclosure to contain powerful and intelligent natural climbers, why the fuck is it so hard to develop a barrier that kids can't squeeze through or hop over?
 
dank69 said:
Time for all the conservatives that are always complaining about helicopter parents making their children soft and weak to heap all their moral disgust on to these parents for not watching their kid close enough. Let's all pretend that it isn't possible for a kid to do something incredibly dangerous in a span of 10 seconds.
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When did helicopter parenting become a conservative vs liberal thing?
 
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Fanatical Meat said:
I could envision something. Kid breaks your window with a baseball the Parents are liable because they are liable for their kids behavior. I could see something similar but as I said earlier I don't think it would be worthwhile for the zoo.
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Wouldn't that be civil and not criminal?
 
Did they at least the save the fucking sperm?

Another critically endangered species that will go extinct in our lifetime. Darwin was thwarted in this instance. The genes of these idiots were not taken from the pool and they are left to pollute the rest of humanity. FUCK THEM.

I hope these fuckers are banned for life from all zoos. I know that I posted some hatred and loathing for them on a facebook page.
 
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