Gorilla Lives Matter!

[Ornery]

Yep, Animal Rights Supporters are having a cow about the death of the Cincinnati Zoo gorilla. But, not so much outrage for the animals killing children in Chicago every day. Soon to be born lives cut short matter even less. Interesting priorities, eh?

Anyway, I place blame at the feet of the parents. When raising my boys 25 years ago, I noticed how so many parents let their kids run wild in stores, restaurants and other public places. God forbid you tell those kids to quiet down or keep their hands off the merchandise! Discipline was simply not part of those parent's vocabulary. Two decades later, it's even worse. No doubt this zoo will be sued, and have to erect huge fences to protect kids from their idiot parents neglectfulness.

This zoo has three foot high fence rails, that have served well for the past 35 years. I don't know about where you live, but here, the railings on balconies etc. are only that same height...

Bah, it's the parent's fault, plain & simple. Lazy idiots!

 

[brycejones]

OP had his cup of rage this morning it seems.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm not ready to assign blame some things are unavoidable. I don't think its reasonable or healthy for a Parent to hover around their child 24/7 either. I did see this on facebook and i feel compelled to share.

I heard an interesting item from a primate expert, the type that goes into the wild and lives with them. He said its hard to not see a resemblance to a human baby when you see a primates' baby. They show the same curiosity and seem to understand its a baby or child. He also said they can act like Lions and kill the unknown young apes too to protect their lineage. He felt the zoo did the right thing.

 

[alien42]

the most disgusting part about the whole thing is that instead of taking responsibility and apologizing, the mother praised god.

 

[nickbits]

I would have rather seen the gorilla live than the child

 

[Fanatical Meat]

the most disgusting part about the whole thing is that instead of taking responsibility and apologizing, the mother praised god.

Praising God for your Child being safe from a dangerous situation isn't that disgusting to me.

 

[Darwin333]

Yet there are metric fuckloads more people being killed, raped, enslaved, and exploited in other parts of the world, are the people of Chicago more important?

Point being, nothing wrong with having a cause. There will always be a more "important" one but if you are passionate about a cause then you should pursue it.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I would have rather seen the gorilla live than the child

I doubt you'd keep that opinion if you saw a child getting mauled, thrown around and dismembered.
I'm assuming you're not serious.

 

[Darwin333]

After actually watching/reading the link I can't say that I fault the zoo. It was an emergency situation with a child at risk. They seem to have very legitimate reasons why they couldn't tranq the animal. I agree that the parents have a ton of responsibility in this but that is kind of irrelevant concerning the zoos reaction.

A very unfortunate event, especially considering it is an endangered species.

 

[Darwin333]

Praising God for your Child being safe from a dangerous situation isn't that disgusting to me.

Agreed, even if the mother is 100% at fault I still can't fault her for being happy that her child was returned relatively unharmed.

 

[sandorski]

Cops really should stop shooting people so quickly though.

 

[Genx87]

I'd like to see the parents held financially responsible for their kid getting into the enclosure that resulted in the death of the Gorilla.

 

[IronWing]

OP, that's quite a wide ranging rant for such a short post. The solution is to ban children.

 

[sandorski]

OP, that's quite a wide ranging rant for such a short post. The solution is to ban children.

I don't recall seeing the OP post in years. By the looks of it, I wish he never came back.

 

[buckshot24]

I had some nut tell me that the parents should be charged with manslaughter.

 

[waggy]

The zoo did the right thing.

but yes its 100% the parents fault that the child got into the cage. This caused the zoo to kill the animal. I would have no issue with the zoo suing the shit out of that family.

 

[IronWing]

I had some nut tell me that the parents should be charged with manslaughter.

The parents should be billed for the replacement cost of the gorilla and all the staff time the zoo spent dealing with the mess created by their child. Also, the cost of the bullet.

 

[feralkid]

Yep, Animal Rights Supporters are having a cow about the death of the Cincinnati Zoo gorilla. But, not so much outrage for the animals killing children in Chicago every day. Soon to be born lives cut short matter even less. Interesting priorities, eh?

Anyway, I place blame at the feet of the parents. When raising my boys 25 years ago, I noticed how so many parents let their kids run wild in stores, restaurants and other public places. God forbid you tell those kids to quiet down or keep their hands off the merchandise! Discipline was simply not part of those parent's vocabulary. Two decades later, it's even worse. No doubt this zoo will be sued, and have to erect huge fences to protect kids from their idiot parents neglectfulness.

This zoo has three foot high fence rails, that have served well for the past 35 years. I don't know about where you live, but here, the railings on balconies etc. are only that same height...

Bah, it's the parent's fault, plain & simple. Lazy idiots!

How can you be in two places at once, when you're not anywhere at all?

 

[buckshot24]

The parents should be billed for the replacement cost of the gorilla and all the staff time the zoo spent dealing with the mess created by their child. Also, the cost of the bullet.

That would be an interesting legal battle. They'd probably argue that the zoo didn't need to kill the gorilla and acted hastily.

 

[DrPizza]

Even the best behaved and most watched children can and do wander away from time to time. Then again, that's generally in situations where the parents let their guard down. I remember the first time we took our little kids to the zoo - I was paranoid and kept an extra vigilant eye on the kids. Ditto Niagara Falls - 3 foot railing, then it's over the side you go. I still remember how tense I was, keeping an eye on the boys. (Actually, I think it's at least 42" at Niagara Falls, but in some areas, no fence at all, just a short rock wall.)


Also, Hello Ornery!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The parents should be billed for the replacement cost of the gorilla and all the staff time the zoo spent dealing with the mess created by their child. Also, the cost of the bullet.

Won't work and it may backfire. I'm no expert but assume the replacement cost of an endangered animal would be in the hundreds of thousands or maybe million(s). No regular family is going to have that level of assets, it will get into the news that some family lost their home and savings to the zoo then people will be afraid of going to the zoo.

 

[Jaskalas]

It was the child or the gorilla

"From what we saw [the child] could have been killed at any second," Bruce Davis, who was with Hollifield, told WCPO. "He threw him 10 feet in the air, and I saw him land on his back. It was a mess."

We are not physically capable of winning a contest with a Gorilla. It could be 100 men, they'd all lose to the raw strength and muscle. Humans are very weak for our size. Only our tools make a difference.

Among those tools the zoo keepers had two choices. Tranq + another 5 minutes of an agitated Gorilla further harming the child, or a quick shot to end it. If that was your child in the cage, you'd want the utmost protection. You'd demand they shoot.

In the question of human life VS animal life, when has the precedent not always been to preserve human life first? Is that wrong? Should it not have been applied in this case, why not?

Ultimately it's rather poor design to have an exhibit where a small child easily enters the cage with an animal. The gaping hole in security lead to the Gorilla's death.

 

[Moonbeam]

Nobody paid any attention to the terrible suffering I experienced as a child. Gorillas and the rest of the world can go to hell. Touch me, feel me, see me.......

 

[soulcougher73]

I think the parent should have to pay the replacement fee of buying and shipping a new ape.

 

[dank69]

Time for all the conservatives that are always complaining about helicopter parents making their children soft and weak to heap all their moral disgust on to these parents for not watching their kid close enough. Let's all pretend that it isn't possible for a kid to do something incredibly dangerous in a span of 10 seconds.