GOP Votes to End Rule Stopping Coal Debris From Being Dumped in Streams

[twelfth]

It's starting to happen. The GOP is engaging in a recklessness that will cause damage that cant be undone in another election cycle.


http://time.com/4657438/congressional-republicans-environmental-regulations-coal-streams/
It's the first in a series of actions to reverse environmental regulations
TIME.COM

 

[FIVR]

LOL.


The funniest part about this, is CA state regulations will prevent any deterioration of conditions for the elite liberals.... but check out where all the coal plants that can now start dumping into streams again are located:

I support this change. Lets gut the regulations on "Trump's america" and keep them for the rest of us. Let them roll in their filth. If only we could wall the air in above them.

 

[5to1baby1in5]

LOL.


The funniest part about this, is CA state regulations will prevent any deterioration of conditions for the elite liberals.... but check out where all the coal plants that can now start dumping into streams again are located:

I support this change. Lets gut the regulations on "Trump's america" and keep them for the rest of us. Let them roll in their filth. If only we could wall the air in above them.

It's the mines that can dump into streams, not the power plants.
The plants just puke heavy metals into the air.

Natural gas is the better fuel.
Coal should die an ugly death.

 

[senseamp]

Trump Trash is doing to get a toxic taste of what they voted for.

 

[Balt]

Coal is deader than dead for so many reasons. It's not going to come back.

1) Natural gas is cheap and cleaner.
2) Why would any investor start planning to build new coal plants when a new president might be elected in four years? They might be halfway through construction when a new president who cares about the environment takes office.

 

[highland145]

woot

 

[K1052]

Gasps of a dying industry.

 

[dank69]

LOL.


The funniest part about this, is CA state regulations will prevent any deterioration of conditions for the elite liberals.... but check out where all the coal plants that can now start dumping into streams again are located:

I support this change. Lets gut the regulations on "Trump's america" and keep them for the rest of us. Let them roll in their filth. If only we could wall the air in above them.

Good. That is exactly what they want.

 

[Jaskalas]

Is this Coal Ash, or a less than purely toxic endeavor?

 

[IronWing]

Is this Coal Ash, or a less than purely toxic endeavor?

Gob, which is a mixture of coal and waste rock. When the a long wall miner rips out a coal seam, it often takes some of the adjacent rock with it. The coal is screened and the gob is the reject material. Gob is usually high in sulfides, producing acid mine drainage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoil_tip

While the government is cleaning up old messes, paid for with a tax on coal, this rule change will allow the coal industry to make new ones. https://www.osmre.gov/

 

[dank69]

Gob, which is a mixture of coal and waste rock. When the a long wall miner rips out a coal seam, it often takes some of the adjacent rock with it. The coal is screened and the gob is the reject material. Gob is usually high in sulfides, producing acid mine drainage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoil_tip

While the government is cleaning up old messes, paid for with a tax on coal, this rule change will allow the coal industry to make new ones. https://www.osmre.gov/

Bottle the acid drainage and sell it to the rust belt. Tell them it has electrolytes.

 

[zinfamous]

LOL.


The funniest part about this, is CA state regulations will prevent any deterioration of conditions for the elite liberals.... but check out where all the coal plants that can now start dumping into streams again are located:

I support this change. Lets gut the regulations on "Trump's america" and keep them for the rest of us. Let them roll in their filth. If only we could wall the air in above them.

It's a brilliant strategy that conservatives have used for decades to keep their voters loyal: "eliminate evil regulations!" that promise to keep their jobs (they never do), all the while, those eliminated regulations allow heavy metals and industrial waste to pollute those voters' water supplies, keeping them poisoned, stupid (malformed, arrested brain development) for generations, to keep them as loyal, unquestioning simpletons that respond only to simple, monosyllabic talking points.

It's really quite shrewd.

 

[IronWing]

Bottle the acid drainage and sell it to the rust belt. Tell them it has electrolytes.

You can paint with it! My wife has tried some out and it works great. Now we just need to paint houses with it to get the market in line with the supply.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...olors-sourced-from-polluted-streams-17561886/

 

[Puffnstuff]

If you guys have ever travelled to the coal mining areas of WV the mining waste has already ruined many streams and turned them into unusable habitat for fish. They want more coal mining in that area as it has large reserves and an uneducated population that is willing to perform it which is a perfect recipe for manipulation. I've never agreed with a party 100% and still don't and the EPA serves a vital role in our country that needs to remain unhindered. If they'd been around back before the mining companies were allowed to kill the rivers they wouldn't be like they are today.

 

[IronWing]

dp

 

[mxnerd]

 

[Jhhnn]

Gob, which is a mixture of coal and waste rock. When the a long wall miner rips out a coal seam, it often takes some of the adjacent rock with it. The coal is screened and the gob is the reject material. Gob is usually high in sulfides, producing acid mine drainage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoil_tip

While the government is cleaning up old messes, paid for with a tax on coal, this rule change will allow the coal industry to make new ones. https://www.osmre.gov/

More Jerbs!

 

[K1052]

Coal is deader than dead for so many reasons. It's not going to come back.

1) Natural gas is cheap and cleaner.
2) Why would any investor start planning to build new coal plants when a new president might be elected in four years? They might be halfway through construction when a new president who cares about the environment takes office.

Nobody in the US is building new coal plants. They're being aggressively retired since most of them at or past end of useful life and NG/renewables have been eating their lunch. Utilities need to make investments that will last 20-30 years and building something that could easily become a stranded asset in a few years and more expensive to build per megawatt isn't an option. New capacity forecast for 2017 is like 1/3 NG and 2/3rds renewables. Most of the major coal mining companies will be out of business in 10-15 years, if not sooner.

 

[KMFJD]

Nobody in the US is building new coal plants. They're being aggressively retired since most of them at or past end of useful life and NG/renewables have been eating their lunch. Utilities need to make investments that will last 20-30 years and building something that could easily become a stranded asset in a few years and more expensive to build per megawatt isn't an option. New capacity forecast for 2017 is like 1/3 NG and 2/3rds renewables. Most of the major coal mining companies will be out of business in 10-15 years, if not sooner.

devils advocate here, how long will NG reserves last though?

 

[K1052]

devils advocate here, how long will NG reserves last though?

Long enough to bridge us to super cheap solar. Wind is already quite competitive these days. At this point storage needs to catch up not so much generation. If manufacturers can get battery pack costs down to $100 per kWh or less the carbon economy is mostly done for.

 

[tweaker2]

Hey, this is really no big deal for those states that have nothing to do with mining coal. And seeing as if most coal mining occurs in GOP controlled states anyway, well, if they want to poison themselves stupid, who are we to deny them their desires?

They voted for Trump, so doesn't that say it all?

 

[K1052]

Hey, this is really no big deal for those states that have nothing to do with mining coal. And seeing as if most coal mining occurs in GOP controlled states anyway, well, if they want to poison themselves stupid, who are we to deny them their desires?

They voted for Trump, so doesn't that say it all?

Well principles aside we'll probably end up paying for it when the music finally stops for the coal industry. The only things this industry is going to leave in it's wake is a ruined environment and the people they've used to make it so.

 

[BoomerD]

Hey, this is really no big deal for those states that have nothing to do with mining coal. And seeing as if most coal mining occurs in GOP controlled states anyway, well, if they want to poison themselves stupid, who are we to deny them their desires?

They voted for Trump, so doesn't that say it all?

Well...if this ONLY affected the Trump voters, that would be one thing...but sadly, the pollution will eventually make its way to the ocean where it will affect sea life...and I'm pretty sure they didn't vote MAGA...or into the ground water where those silly libruls live...so they'll have to buy even more fancy imported bottled water..WINNING for Donald's business friends........But hey...let's not let silly librul environmental restrictions interfere with making money. It's the American way!

 

[senseamp]

Any estimate on how much it will reduce Trump Trash's life expectancy?

 

[kage69]

Another ridiculous regressive move by the GOP. It really is a shame that the terms conservation and conservative seem to be so mutually exclusive.

Make America Disgusting Again.