GOP Senate Candidate Declares Pregnancy From Rape Is "Something God Intended"

[cybrsage]

It's really amusing watching cybersage defend the indefensible.

What am I defending?

 

[cybrsage]

I didn't know it affected you personally.

It does not (except in the way that I am personally affected by all changes in society), I simply expressed surprise that he supports brothers and sisters marrying each other. Most libs want equality for all - except the groups whose lifestyles they want to keep illegal...they should not be equal. He is unusual for a lib.

 

[lotus503]

What am I defending?

"the indefensible" Duh!

 

[zinfamous]

I see no way that you couldn't believe such things if you were a self-described fundy.

Shouldn't be too surprising.

It's kinda of....entertaining now that we can see what happens when these whackos are actually put into the public, and they start to wear such beliefs on their sleeves.

The Christian right is a frightening bunch. This country would be a better place if they were all muzzled, perhaps living on some compound or reservation, free of US entitlements and allowed to inbreed their poisonous culture into senescence.

Of course, one major party thinks it is incumbent to put them at the echelon of political theory, and power, in the most powerful country in the world. This should frighten any real patriotic American.

 

[Schmide]

See Dick this is what happens in 2012 when you believe in science.

 

[jackstar7]

It does not.

Glad you cleared that up. I thought perhaps you had a personal stake in it, since you brought it up.

 

[cybrsage]

"the indefensible" Duh!

I can honestly say I have not tried to defend Moonbeam's posting style.

 

[Jaepheth]

What species is it before it turns into a human? Mind you, that is has only human DNA in it and is a 100% unique expression of that human DNA.

But please, tell us what species humans start out as before they magically change and become human.

So... HeLa is a person too then?

There's more to being a person than having unique DNA sequences.

 

[cybrsage]

Glad you cleared that up. I thought perhaps you had a personal stake in it, since you brought it up.

I would have brought up polygamy, but that is a bit more complex than incest. IMO, these two types of unions are perfect examples of why the government should get out of the marriage business and into only doing civil unions. That way they can create a slew of civil union styles without anything getting mad about it.

Polygamy requires limits on the size of the union - else it gets too chaotic (5 is a good number, imo) and also requires more thought and planning than incest unions do. Incest unions should only require both partners to be sterilized (to prevent the genetic problems such unions create) in order to allow it.

The age limit should not be removed, civil unions are a legal contract so the person should be of legal contract age to marry, imo. Of course, we should also keep the unions between humans (due to being able to give consent) at least until we run into another intelligent species that we can communicate with.

 

[cybrsage]

So... HeLa is a person too then?

There's more to being a person than having unique DNA sequences.

The line was derived from cervical cancer cells taken on February 8, 1951[2] from Henrietta Lacks,

They are her cells.

 

[jpeyton]

Mourdock apologized for his comment today, Romney pulled his ad supporting him, but is still endorsing him.

 

[nehalem256]

So... HeLa is a person too then?

There's more to being a person than having unique DNA sequences.

They are her cells.

Cancer cells are not people. Or are you suggesting chemotherapy be made illegal?

 

[HomerJS]

I don't know why Republicans are so mad at Murdock. All he did was affirm something that is already in the Republican Party platform.

 

[Todd33]

I don't know why Republicans are so mad at Murdock. All he did was affirm something that is already in the Republican Party platform.

He said it out loud though.

 

[piasabird]

Democrats declare Murdering Children is a thing to be celebrated.

It is a good thing that the mother of Ray Charles did not give up on him. He was just a young underprivliged poor child that went blind, but he ascended to stardom and greatness. Either you believe in life or you believe in murdering children.

 

[jackstar7]

Democrats declare Murdering Children is a thing to be celebrated.

It is a good thing that the mother of Ray Charles did not give up on him. He was just a young underprivliged poor child that went blind, but he ascended to stardom and greatness. Either you believe in life or you believe in murdering children.

Hitler should have been aborted.

Ray Charles and Hitler... not much else is common other than they are both dead. (paraphrased from Louis CK)

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Democrats declare Murdering Children is a thing to be celebrated.

Sorry, must have missed that. Post number please?

 

[jpeyton]

Democrats declare Murdering Children is a thing to be celebrated.

It is a good thing that the mother of Ray Charles did not give up on him. He was just a young underprivliged poor child that went blind, but he ascended to stardom and greatness. Either you believe in life or you believe in murdering children.

The GOP is now an advocate for welfare moms?

I thought they were part of the 47%? You want single lower-class mothers to have babies but want to cut their government assistance at the same time, correct?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

No you're not the only one. I've only skimmed the thread but cybersage and nehalem256 seem to be in your corner. They're there for different reasons but that's still very amusing.

Strange bedfellows indeed!

 

[zinfamous]

So... HeLa is a person too then?

There's more to being a person than having unique DNA sequences.

They are her cells.

Cancer cells are not people. Or are you suggesting chemotherapy be made illegal?

Nehalem and cybersage, potentially engaging in a logical debate?

what will happen?

will this be the forum equivalent of dividing by zero??

D:

 

[lotus503]

Democrats declare Murdering Children is a thing to be celebrated.

It is a good thing that the mother of Ray Charles did not give up on him. He was just a young underprivliged poor child that went blind, but he ascended to stardom and greatness. Either you believe in life or you believe in murdering children.

before he was Ray Charles he was egg charles.

to you this is a person

http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/we..._illustration_of_egg_implanting_in_uterus.jpg

 

[cybrsage]

Cancer cells are not people. Or are you suggesting chemotherapy be made illegal?

Cancer cells are human cells that are broken. They are her cells, but they are also killing her. To save her, you kill off her broken cells while (hopefully) sparing the healthy cells.

The fetus is not her cells.

EDIT: To be clear, her skin cells are not people either, but they make up part of her own body and are her own cells. Cancer cells are like this, only they are broken. The cells in the fetus are not her cells and not part of her body. They are part of another human's body. This human is not a person yet, or a being, due to not yet being born. That is where we arbitrarily set the line where rights and personhood status are to be given.

 

[cybrsage]

Strange bedfellows indeed!

Indeed!

I can understand his point and why he would make it even though I find his view to be completely wrong. I am not a proponent of predestination, which it appears is needed to hold his position. God can use bad things to accomplish great things, of that there is no doubt, but God does not want bad things to happen to us.

 

[cybrsage]

will this be the forum equivalent of dividing by zero??

D:

X / 0 = Infinity I learned this from Michio Kaku, a most excellent explainer of physics.

 

[soulcougher73]

It does not (except in the way that I am personally affected by all changes in society), I simply expressed surprise that he supports brothers and sisters marrying each other. Most libs want equality for all - except the groups whose lifestyles they want to keep illegal...they should not be equal. He is unusual for a lib.

I wouldnt marry my sister for my own personal reasons, but im a live and let live person. If that is what they want to do and are happy and consenting adults, its none of my business.