GOP Representative threatens O'Rouke after AR comment

[Jhhnn]

Maybe we should use a different set of initials for the unserialized 80% lowers finished via 3D printers that won’t be affected by gun bans anyway. Maybe for those the AR stands for “Arms for Republicans.”

Ghost Gunner

ghostgunner.net

Those def need to be outlawed. I know, it's all the rage at the freakshow end of gun owners, but no, just no. It's way too easy for prohibited persons to construct untraceable weapons. It's not done with a 3D printer, anyway. Anybody with some skill & a drill press can make a functional lower with a readily avail tool/jig kit. If you buy one of these, you can make them assembly line fashion-

Ghost Gunner

ghostgunner.net

 

[JEDIYoda]

Tens of millions of them in circulation no matter what you call them. Guess you’ll have to live in fear the rest of your life.

The problem si your just like Trump...your a liar. You eondder why you have no credibility!
Good example --
Maybe we should use a different set of initials for the unserialized 80% lowers finished via 3D printers that won’t be affected by gun bans anyway. Maybe for those the AR stands for “Arms for Republicans.”

You know how many people own 3D printers...what a croak of shit!! You sound almost as bad a Spidey@!!

 

[Paratus]

Jesus people. Trying fire more than a few rounds through a 3D printed gun from a home printer ($100-$2000) made out of PLA, nylon, ABS, etc is a self correcting problem.

It’s going to blow up in their hand.

 

[Jhhnn]

Jesus people. Trying fire more than a few rounds through a 3D printed gun from a home printer ($100-$2000) made out of PLA, nylon, ABS, etc is a self correcting problem.

It’s going to blow up in their hand.

It was a publicity stunt come-on to sell the Ghost gunner CnC machine. I'll bet that baby works like a charm & that Mexican cartels just love the product. No straw buyers required.

 

[Vic]

You're either uninformed or a delusional moron if you don't think Antifa prepares and plans for violence, commits it, then cries "pro-active self defense" later.

You mean they do exactly what Patriot Prayer has been caught on video doing to them? That's amazing!
Of course, I can (and already have in this thread) prove what I said, and you can't prove what you said.

 

[child of wonder]

You mean they do exactly what Patriot Prayer has been caught on video doing to them? That's amazing!
Of course, I can (and already have in this thread) prove what I said, and you can't prove what you said.

Here's CNN proving it.

Jesus Christ you're a fucking talking head.

 

[brandonbull]

Nowhere in the constitution does it specify that you are entitled to an AR15

It doesn't say that your not. The purpose of the Constitution was to enumerate what the government could do and not what people couldn't do so your stupid argument loses.

 

[JEDIYoda]

It doesn't say that your not. The purpose of the Constitution was to enumerate what the government could do and not what people couldn't do so your stupid argument loses.

As does yours! Eventually there will be some form of gun control!! Get use to it!! It is coming and you everybody knows it!!
I said gun control, I did not say taking all guns away!!

 

[Bitek]

They often are not criminal or mentally ill when the get the gun. A gun is not a perishable item. Most of my guns I inherited. How do you prevent that?

If you really want to rid the country of assault rifles, institute a ban, then offer a buyback program for a lot of money.
Eg $5,000.

Now that AR you have sitting in your closet is worth a significant amount of money. Do you keep it? Some will, whole bunch won't.

You want to buy one from someone else? Now the minimum sale price is $5k for any private sale, unless the seller wants go below market. That's fine too, someone can make a living out of buying them up and selling to gov.

After that, won't be too many broke ass nutjobs able to afford or find access to high powered weaponry to mow down a scores of children and innocent people.

 

[Jhhnn]

It doesn't say that your not. The purpose of the Constitution was to enumerate what the government could do and not what people couldn't do so your stupid argument loses.

Modern firearms were beyond the imagination when the Constitution was written. All they knew were black powder flintlocks. Arguing against regulations is like arguing against traffic signals & speed limits.

 

[compuwiz1]

It's astonishing to me that so many liberals who claim to be "woke" still think the problem is guns, and / or the NRA. smh!

Same folks that believed the Russia hoax and the pee-pee dossier...

 

[Greenman]

As does yours! Eventually there will be some form of gun control!! Get use to it!! It is coming and you everybody knows it!!
I said gun control, I did not say taking all guns away!!

There already is gun control, lots of it. It doesn't work, it never will work. The only viable method of gun control is outlawing them. I also wonder why we're so worried about one particular model of gun? Why the AR15?
As a society we accept horrible consequences if we like what causes them. Cars, obesity, booze, smoking, crappy diet, drug abuse, all of those things kill thousands every day. Hundreds of people are dying from at least one of those things as you read this. But we don't much care. We drive by a wreck with bodies strewn across the highway and feel bad for the victims, then start thinking about where the next mickey D's is so we can get lunch.
Guns are unpopular because they're specific, killing is what they're for, but in the grand scheme of what kills us their piece of the pie chart is nearly invisible.
All that said, I'm not against gun control. A lot of people are far to stupid, drugged, or crazy to own a firearm.

 

[fskimospy]

It's astonishing to me that so many liberals who claim to be "woke" still think the problem is guns, and / or the NRA. smh!

Of course guns are a problem, the empirical evidence is very strong that they are both a risk factor for homicide and suicide.

Did you somehow think otherwise?

Same folks that believed the Russia hoax and the pee-pee dossier...

Uhm, you realize liberals were 100% right on the Russia thing, right?

Like what fantasy world are you living in? Is it the same one where you supposedly sit outside the DMV and hear people plotting to illegally vote?

 

[JSt0rm]

It's astonishing to me that so many liberals who claim to be "woke" still think the problem is guns, and / or the NRA. smh!

Same folks that believed the Russia hoax and the pee-pee dossier...

the internet broke your brain.

 

[Skel]

If you really want to rid the country of assault rifles, institute a ban, then offer a buyback program for a lot of money.
Eg $5,000.

Now that AR you have sitting in your closet is worth a significant amount of money. Do you keep it? Some will, whole bunch won't.

You want to buy one from someone else? Now the minimum sale price is $5k for any private sale, unless the seller wants go below market. That's fine too, someone can make a living out of buying them up and selling to gov.

After that, won't be too many broke ass nutjobs able to afford or find access to high powered weaponry to mow down a scores of children and innocent people.

Problem with that is economics kicks in and that grandfathered AR you want to buy back for $5K is now suddenly worth $10K. It happened during the Federal Assault Weapons ban of 94. If you outlaw selling on a market you can track, you'd only increase the value even more. It's not the worst idea, but buy backs all have a flaw. Having said that, as a gun owner I'd rather try and recoup some of my money vs just having to turn it in. YMMV

 

[brycejones]

psycho

Givens Glenn’s long held views they the poor should just die but be polite enough to do where he doesn’t have to see it I think we are way past psycho territory.

 

[ElFenix]

OH HOW DID WE EXERCISE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO GUNS BACK BEFORE THE 90s WHEN ARs FIRST STARTED SHOWING UP AT THE RANGE!?!?!?!?!!!!11111

 

[Vic]

Here's CNN proving it.

Jesus Christ you're a fucking talking head.

So I guess you must support this:

New Evidence Shows Joey Gibson's Role in Planning May Day Attack at Cider Riot

The legal team representing local cider bar Cider Riot in a lawsuit against far-right group Patriot Prayer has filed a new motion containing potentially damning evidence. The lawsuit came after members of Patriot Prayer—including leader Joey Gibson—instigated a brawl with Cider Riot patrons on...

www.portlandmercury.com

 

[Bitek]

Problem with that is economics kicks in and that grandfathered AR you want to buy back for $5K is now suddenly worth $10K. It happened during the Federal Assault Weapons ban of 94. If you outlaw selling on a market you can track, you'd only increase the value even more. It's not the worst idea, but buy backs all have a flaw. Having said that, as a gun owner I'd rather try and recoup some of my money vs just having to turn it in. YMMV

Yeah, and I don't think the goal needs to be 100% removal. Just bring down the easy accessibility and affordability. Spending $10k on an AR is a massive investment. Couple that with stronger background checks and you could still have a market for enthusiasts and sport shooters, but heavily deter the random school shooters/ 20 something white supremacists /criminals /terrorists and crazies that can now easily get a highly lethal person killing tool at a local big box and go and blast 30-40 ppl within a minute.

 

[Vic]

It's astonishing to me that so many liberals who claim to be "woke" still think the problem is guns, and / or the NRA. smh!

Same folks that believed the Russia hoax and the pee-pee dossier...

If guns don't have anything to with the problem of gun violence, then why do we take away gun rights from convicted felons? Obviously, we all already agree that certain people should not be allowed to carry guns. So the question being debated here is to what extent we should take that. My own opinion is that gun rights should remain intact for law-abiding citizens, but that significant restrictions should be made on the buying and selling of firearms. Yaknow, just like in Switzerland.
I already addressed the issue of the NRA with regards to non-gun owners, which that the NRA is pushing policy that would turn those who chose not to carry guns into 2nd-class citizens.

And if Russia is a hoax, then what is Manafort doing time for?

 

[sactoking]

Even NASCAR is turning against guns and gun enthusiasts. If that's not a sign that change is coming then I don't know what is.

 

[Moonbeam]

Even NASCAR is turning against guns and gun enthusiasts. If that's not a sign that change is coming then I don't know what is.

Yup, looks like a sea change in gun thinking is on its way. I've even seen some gun owners get rid of their military style rifles. I find that pretty impressive.

 

[brandonbull]

Yup, looks like a sea change in gun thinking is on its way. I've even seen some gun owners get rid of their military style rifles. I find that pretty impressive.

What is a "military style" rifle?

 

[Jhhnn]

What is a "military style" rifle?

This is where BB goes on about how all guns have military heritage, which is true to a point while being immaterial. Modern firearms, particularly military carbines, are highly engineered & specialized weapons systems.

 

[Vic]

This is where BB goes on about how all guns have military heritage, which is true to a point while being immaterial. Modern firearms, particularly military carbines, are highly engineered & specialized weapons systems.

The Vegas shooter killed 58 people and wounded another 422. That's as effective as a bomb. And I don't believe anyone here would argue for a right to own and carry bombs.
That might be an extreme example, but I think it should demonstrate the point that the NRA's extremist position on the gun argument, that almost everyone should be allowed to own and carry weaponry as potentially efficient as bombs, demonstrates such disregard for public safety that it will (if it hasn't already) create a 'revenge effect' in public opinion that will undermine gun rights. Especially when the non-gun owning public (60% of America) sees many (if not most) of the civilian NRA-types acting like bullies with toys.