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ChrisIsBored

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Originally posted by: LakerGod
Steve Francis had something like 17 fouls. Holy crap.

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masterxfob

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
2 bad calls towards the end against the lakers. ah...

5 or 6 bad calls agains the rockets throughout the game. lamer.

ok fanboy, how do you explain the fact that kobe and shaq didn't get any calls for them throughout the whole entire game? what about the last play of regulation where kobe drove and was popped in the back? in overtime when shaq was called for a flagrant that was completely a botched call? the flagrant leading to a technical on coach jackson?

i'm sure there were quite a few bad calls for the rockets, but there were at least a dozen calls that went against or weren't called at all in the lakers favor. that game was just poorly officiated, so you laker haters don't have anything to brag about
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LikeLinus

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10 points, 10 boards, and 6 blocks. Against the best center in the NBA, who has 8 years on him (10 in the NBA). I think the rookie did a damn good job and he did have the best stat of the night

GAME WINNING DUNK and the "W" :)

And LakerGod, my hostility towards Shaq is the fact that he's been acting like a racist pig. It's ironic that him being black that he'd make the remarks he made, even after Yao has said nothing but good things. Maybe Shaq is jealous of the attention that Yao was/is getting? But there is no need to act like that. Atleast the NBA and the Lakers made him give a half-assed fake apology.

The Franchise had a HELL of a game.
 

UCDznutz

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there are alot of bad calls that go for both teams. how many are noticed depends on what team you want to win.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
2 bad calls towards the end against the lakers. ah...

5 or 6 bad calls agains the rockets throughout the game. lamer.

ok fanboy, how do you explain the fact that kobe and shaq didn't get any calls for them throughout the whole entire game? what about the last play of regulation where kobe drove and was popped in the back? in overtime when shaq was called for a flagrant that was completely a botched call? the flagrant leading to a technical on coach jackson?

i'm sure there were quite a few bad calls for the rockets, but there were at least a dozen calls that went against or weren't called at all in the lakers favor. that game was just poorly officiated, so you laker haters don't have anything to brag about
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Yeah and no one ever calls Shaq basically bulldozing people over under the basket. Give it up. Lakers deserve bad calls for all the crap they never call against Shaq. He basically bullies his way to get shots.

The game was poorly officiated on BOTH sides. Never the less the rockets won. Lakers were up by 11 at one point, was it the officiating that got the rockets back in the game? Blame the loss on your team, not others. If they were as great as they should be, the game shouldn't have gotten outta hand.
 

Jmman

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That was a good game. Shaq must have been surprised to see all of his shots getting blocked the first part of the game.......:)
 

miniMUNCH

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Francis and Mobley won the game for Houston.

Yao played well and will get much better over next few years...but Shaq still racked him and Cato, et al. for 30+ pts...albeit on a so-so shooting night due to good defense.

It's interesting...I've always thought that Cato defends Shaq well...I've seen games were Cato stuffed Shaq like three times in quarter but Shaq always got his buckets. I wonder how much Cato has shared with Yao on defending Shaq?

Some lame ass calls at the end of the game though...hate to see that.
 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
2 bad calls towards the end against the lakers. ah...

5 or 6 bad calls agains the rockets throughout the game. lamer.

ok fanboy, how do you explain the fact that kobe and shaq didn't get any calls for them throughout the whole entire game? what about the last play of regulation where kobe drove and was popped in the back? in overtime when shaq was called for a flagrant that was completely a botched call? the flagrant leading to a technical on coach jackson?

i'm sure there were quite a few bad calls for the rockets, but there were at least a dozen calls that went against or weren't called at all in the lakers favor. that game was just poorly officiated, so you laker haters don't have anything to brag about
rolleye.gif

Yeah and no one ever calls Shaq basically bulldozing people over under the basket. Give it up. Lakers deserve bad calls for all the crap they never call against Shaq. He basically bullies his way to get shots.

The game was poorly officiated on BOTH sides. Never the less the rockets won. Lakers were up by 11 at one point, was it the officiating that got the rockets back in the game? Blame the loss on your team, not others. If they were as great as they should be, the game shouldn't have gotten outta hand.

if you wanna say that shaq bullies everyone around the basket, that's fine, but are you trying to say he isn't fouled nearly everytime he get's into the low post? so you think all the pushing and holding of the defenders don't have anything to do with the reason shaq has to power his way in? you must be sh1ttin me, that's just f'ing stupid.

do you really expect 'great' teams as you call it to blow out every team and win by double figures? i never mentioned that the lakers were a great team, i knew that when mitch signed george to the midlevel in the offseason that they were going to be a mediocre team. all the teams in the west got bigger and better except for the lakers, so why would i call them a great team?

if you really don't think games haven't been won or lost due to poor officiating, you're probably even more asinine than i already believe you are. i'm sorry, but you truly know little or nothing about basketball.
 

Shlong

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Anyone else notice how Yao was winded even though he played low minutes. I think this has something to do with his 30 game season in China or whatever, he's not used to playing this much. That's why I think Shaq had position in OT because Yao seemed winded while in the beginning of the game Yao was fresh, didn't give Shaq position and blocked 3 of his shots. But for a guy who was in China just 3 months ago, playing with players and teams that are worse then most high school teams and then putting up 10/10/6 against one of the greatest centers of all time is impressive nonetheless. Just a few weeks ago all the media was saying how he was a stiff and what a mistake Houston made in picking Yao.
 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: Shlong
Anyone else notice how Yao was winded even though he played low minutes. I think this has something to do with his 30 game season in China or whatever, he's not used to playing this much. That's why I think Shaq had position in OT because Yao seemed winded while in the beginning of the game Yao was fresh, didn't give Shaq position and blocked 3 of his shots. But for a guy who was in China just 3 months ago, playing with players and teams that are worse then most high school teams and then putting up 10/10/6 against one of the greatest centers of all time is impressive nonetheless. Just a few weeks ago all the media was saying how he was a stiff and what a mistake Houston made in picking Yao.

dude, have you ever played basketball? not on your playstation/xbox/nintendo, but on an actualy court with live people? if you have, you would know that it's much tougher and requires more effort to defend a bigger person. when a larger person is posting up and banging his way inside, those hits take a toll and just sap you of your energy.

that said, how many centers in the league do that other than shaq? yeah, no one. that's why yao was winded, he's never had to exert that much energy defending before. therefore, yao didn't have the lift to get his shots through the net as the game progressed.
 

Shlong

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Shlong
Anyone else notice how Yao was winded even though he played low minutes. I think this has something to do with his 30 game season in China or whatever, he's not used to playing this much. That's why I think Shaq had position in OT because Yao seemed winded while in the beginning of the game Yao was fresh, didn't give Shaq position and blocked 3 of his shots. But for a guy who was in China just 3 months ago, playing with players and teams that are worse then most high school teams and then putting up 10/10/6 against one of the greatest centers of all time is impressive nonetheless. Just a few weeks ago all the media was saying how he was a stiff and what a mistake Houston made in picking Yao.

dude, have you ever played basketball? not on your playstation/xbox/nintendo, but on an actualy court with live people? if you have, you would know that it's much tougher and requires more effort to defend a bigger person. when a larger person is posting up and banging his way inside, those hits take a toll and just sap you of your energy.

that said, how many centers in the league do that other than shaq? yeah, no one. that's why yao was winded, he's never had to exert that much energy defending before. therefore, yao didn't have the lift to get his shots through the net as the game progressed.

I actually played some AAU and some ball in high school, though my junior/senior years I gave up basketball and concentrated more on football. If you looked at the game, Yao seemed winded when he was running up and down the court (for me personally I was winded more from this then defensive positioning and contesting shots). What I was saying was that his conditioning seems like it needs some work so that he won't break down and get so tired so easily.
 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: Shlong
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Shlong
Anyone else notice how Yao was winded even though he played low minutes. I think this has something to do with his 30 game season in China or whatever, he's not used to playing this much. That's why I think Shaq had position in OT because Yao seemed winded while in the beginning of the game Yao was fresh, didn't give Shaq position and blocked 3 of his shots. But for a guy who was in China just 3 months ago, playing with players and teams that are worse then most high school teams and then putting up 10/10/6 against one of the greatest centers of all time is impressive nonetheless. Just a few weeks ago all the media was saying how he was a stiff and what a mistake Houston made in picking Yao.

dude, have you ever played basketball? not on your playstation/xbox/nintendo, but on an actualy court with live people? if you have, you would know that it's much tougher and requires more effort to defend a bigger person. when a larger person is posting up and banging his way inside, those hits take a toll and just sap you of your energy.

that said, how many centers in the league do that other than shaq? yeah, no one. that's why yao was winded, he's never had to exert that much energy defending before. therefore, yao didn't have the lift to get his shots through the net as the game progressed.

I actually played some AAU and some ball in high school, though my junior/senior years I gave up basketball and concentrated more on football. If you looked at the game, Yao seemed winded when he was running up and down the court (for me personally I was winded more from this then defensive positioning and contesting shots). What I was saying was that his conditioning seems like it needs some work so that he won't break down and get so tired so easily.

there's no doubt that yao's going to need to get into better shape, but if yao looked tired running up and down the court, i'm 99% sure that it's due to the effort he was putting into his defense. yao generally doesn't do a lot of jumping or stretching to block shots, but tonight he did a lot of that in the first couple minutes. i think he was just a bit anxious to show shaq what he was capable of that he forgot to pace himself for the whole game.
 

ChrisIsBored

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Shlong
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Shlong
Anyone else notice how Yao was winded even though he played low minutes. I think this has something to do with his 30 game season in China or whatever, he's not used to playing this much. That's why I think Shaq had position in OT because Yao seemed winded while in the beginning of the game Yao was fresh, didn't give Shaq position and blocked 3 of his shots. But for a guy who was in China just 3 months ago, playing with players and teams that are worse then most high school teams and then putting up 10/10/6 against one of the greatest centers of all time is impressive nonetheless. Just a few weeks ago all the media was saying how he was a stiff and what a mistake Houston made in picking Yao.

dude, have you ever played basketball? not on your playstation/xbox/nintendo, but on an actualy court with live people? if you have, you would know that it's much tougher and requires more effort to defend a bigger person. when a larger person is posting up and banging his way inside, those hits take a toll and just sap you of your energy.

that said, how many centers in the league do that other than shaq? yeah, no one. that's why yao was winded, he's never had to exert that much energy defending before. therefore, yao didn't have the lift to get his shots through the net as the game progressed.

I actually played some AAU and some ball in high school, though my junior/senior years I gave up basketball and concentrated more on football. If you looked at the game, Yao seemed winded when he was running up and down the court (for me personally I was winded more from this then defensive positioning and contesting shots). What I was saying was that his conditioning seems like it needs some work so that he won't break down and get so tired so easily.

there's no doubt that yao's going to need to get into better shape, but if yao looked tired running up and down the court, i'm 99% sure that it's due to the effort he was putting into his defense. yao generally doesn't do a lot of jumping or stretching to block shots, but tonight he did a lot of that in the first couple minutes. i think he was just a bit anxious to show shaq what he was capable of that he forgot to pace himself for the whole game.

So how much are you getting paid to kiss Shaq's ass tonight on ATOT? Get over yourself, your rude remarks aren't necessary. :disgust:
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
2 bad calls towards the end against the lakers. ah...

5 or 6 bad calls agains the rockets throughout the game. lamer.

ok fanboy, how do you explain the fact that kobe and shaq didn't get any calls for them throughout the whole entire game? what about the last play of regulation where kobe drove and was popped in the back? in overtime when shaq was called for a flagrant that was completely a botched call? the flagrant leading to a technical on coach jackson?

i'm sure there were quite a few bad calls for the rockets, but there were at least a dozen calls that went against or weren't called at all in the lakers favor. that game was just poorly officiated, so you laker haters don't have anything to brag about
rolleye.gif

what about the part where (francis) waved his arm in front of kobe and somehow had a foul called on him? what about when kobe flopped and whoever the rocket that was standing there got a foul called on him. on BOTH of those the announcers said the rockets got screwed. how bout when shaq interfered with a ball in the cylinder? you're calling me a fan boy, but i'm just stating why i hate professional basketball.
 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Shlong
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: Shlong
Anyone else notice how Yao was winded even though he played low minutes. I think this has something to do with his 30 game season in China or whatever, he's not used to playing this much. That's why I think Shaq had position in OT because Yao seemed winded while in the beginning of the game Yao was fresh, didn't give Shaq position and blocked 3 of his shots. But for a guy who was in China just 3 months ago, playing with players and teams that are worse then most high school teams and then putting up 10/10/6 against one of the greatest centers of all time is impressive nonetheless. Just a few weeks ago all the media was saying how he was a stiff and what a mistake Houston made in picking Yao.

dude, have you ever played basketball? not on your playstation/xbox/nintendo, but on an actualy court with live people? if you have, you would know that it's much tougher and requires more effort to defend a bigger person. when a larger person is posting up and banging his way inside, those hits take a toll and just sap you of your energy.

that said, how many centers in the league do that other than shaq? yeah, no one. that's why yao was winded, he's never had to exert that much energy defending before. therefore, yao didn't have the lift to get his shots through the net as the game progressed.

I actually played some AAU and some ball in high school, though my junior/senior years I gave up basketball and concentrated more on football. If you looked at the game, Yao seemed winded when he was running up and down the court (for me personally I was winded more from this then defensive positioning and contesting shots). What I was saying was that his conditioning seems like it needs some work so that he won't break down and get so tired so easily.

there's no doubt that yao's going to need to get into better shape, but if yao looked tired running up and down the court, i'm 99% sure that it's due to the effort he was putting into his defense. yao generally doesn't do a lot of jumping or stretching to block shots, but tonight he did a lot of that in the first couple minutes. i think he was just a bit anxious to show shaq what he was capable of that he forgot to pace himself for the whole game.

So how much are you getting paid to kiss Shaq's ass tonight on ATOT? Get over yourself, your rude remarks aren't necessary. :disgust:

ehh, you have anything intelligent to say? i'm simply correcting the people that have made comments with little or no knowledge of basketball. so other than calling me the ass that i already know i can be, do you have anything intelligent regarding basketball to say?
 

Kev

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All I care about is that Eric Snow could have saved the 76ers but he missed a god damned free throw.
 

masterxfob

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Hoeboy
2 bad calls towards the end against the lakers. ah...

5 or 6 bad calls agains the rockets throughout the game. lamer.

ok fanboy, how do you explain the fact that kobe and shaq didn't get any calls for them throughout the whole entire game? what about the last play of regulation where kobe drove and was popped in the back? in overtime when shaq was called for a flagrant that was completely a botched call? the flagrant leading to a technical on coach jackson?

i'm sure there were quite a few bad calls for the rockets, but there were at least a dozen calls that went against or weren't called at all in the lakers favor. that game was just poorly officiated, so you laker haters don't have anything to brag about
rolleye.gif

what about the part where (francis) waved his arm in front of kobe and somehow had a foul called on him? what about when kobe flopped and whoever the rocket that was standing there got a foul called on him. on BOTH of those the announcers said the rockets got screwed? how bout when shaq interfered with a ball in the cylinder? you're calling me a fan boy, but i'm just stating why i hate professional basketball.

i know there were several bad/non calls against the rockets, but if you watch the whole game and tally them up, you'll find that the lakers were the ones that were really cheated. they had the most critical bad/non calls against them at critical moments of the game. i'm not saying anything bad about the rockets, but when a bunch of laker haters start spouting their mouths off about something they have very little knowledge about, it just bugs.