goooo yaoo minggg!!!

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Originally posted by: LakerGod

Originally posted by: ChrisIsBored

Originally posted by: LakerGod
Steve Francis had something like 17 fouls. Holy crap.

17 fouls commited on him, shmuck.

link

Look under FTM-A

I hope you realise that one foul can result in more than one free throw.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: masterxfob

Originally posted by: dafatha00
I've been a fan of the Lakers since Vlade was traded back in 1996 (I hate that guy) but thus far, my support for Yao Ming has been unconditional. I'm happy that the Rockets won but I'm also sad that the Lakers didn't move one step closer to the number 8 team in the west.

Anyways masterxfob, the refs may have missed calls here and there but you know what? It happens. It happens to every fvcking NBA team. So stop whining about it because you're looking like an ass. All in all, congrats to the Rockets and gooooo Lakers.

if you read through a few of my posts you'd realize that i sympathize with the refs and i do understand that not every game, if any, can be called 100% correctly. i know every team gets bad calls or non calls against them and that they just need to play through them, so what's your point? if you had the crazy notion that i think only the lakers get bad calls or non calls against them, then you're a complete dolt. i know that because of game 6 in the western conference finals last year and many more besides that.

the reason i'm voicing my opinion so strongly is because of the many laker haters posting unintelligible comments. everyone hates the lakers and for what reason? they've got two of the best players in the league and they've won three in a row, so everyone automatically hates them. maybe it's because the kings should've been the champs last year but the officials botched game 6 and the lakers won three in a row instead.

regarding shaq, i don't remember so many people hating on shaq when he was playing in orlando alongside penny. what's so different about his game now that people are calling his game garbage? i bet more than half of these idiots calling shaq a garbage player never even saw him play in orlando.

anyhow, if you think i'm an ass, more power to you, but don't expect me to roll over and beg for your approval

The other thread was locked so I will respond to you in this thread. The reason I call Shaq a garbage player is because of the constant elbows and shoulders he uses to get position. You said in his defense that Garnett is a dirty player. The only difference is, Garnett isn't a 300 pound oaf like Shaq. And he doesn't base his entire game around the fat that he can move people out of the way with his body.

 

[ReiAyanami]

shaq is 350lbs, yao weighs 50lbs less but is 4in taller, so he's pretty skinny

 

[First]

Originally posted by: masterxfob
the reason i'm voicing my opinion so strongly is because of the many laker haters posting unintelligible comments.

This is the Internet, unfortunately we can't do anything about it. I'm sure you'd have a good laugh if you talked to them in person, I know I would.

Originally posted by: jjsole
Btw, how many driving layups did the lakers get with Yoa in the game? 1, by fish? Yao totally changed the game, even when he wasn't involved in the play.

Not true at all. Steve Francis changed the game, plain and simple. He shoot 57% from the floor (75% from 3-point land, 6 3-pointers total), including a career-high 44 points, 11 assists and 2 steals. The Rockets won the game because Steve Francis had a career night. And that doesn't even include the game-tying 3-pointer he made to force OT, which directly led to the Rocket's win.

With all that said, the game pretty much went the way I expected it to go, though I didn't expect Steve Francis to have the best game of his career obviously. Excluding the first two minutes of the game, Shaq handled Yao, however I am more than impressed with Yao, he is pretty much the only center in the NBA that can annoy Shaq in any way.

And don't kid yourselfs, Shaq was clearly hyped for this game and played harder than he's ever played in years, even playoff years. So Yao was certainly a challenege for Shaq, but Shaq still had 31 pts, 13 reb and 4 ast as well as 83% shooting from the line and 50% from the floor. Yao had 10 pts, 10 reb and 3 ast to go along with an amazing 6 blks, a few against Shaq, though Yao only hit 37% from the floor (a lot of it because of Shaq's intensive D).

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: masterxfob the reason i'm voicing my opinion so strongly is because of the many laker haters posting unintelligible comments.

This is the Internet, unfortunately we can't do anything about it. I'm sure you'd have a good laugh if you talked to them in person, I know I would.

Originally posted by: jjsole Btw, how many driving layups did the lakers get with Yoa in the game? 1, by fish? Yao totally changed the game, even when he wasn't involved in the play.

Not true at all. Steve Francis changed the game, plain and simple. He shoot 57% from the floor (75% from 3-point land, 6 3-pointers total), including a career-high 44 points, 11 assists and 2 steals. The Rockets won the game because Steve Francis had a career night. And that doesn't even include the game-tying 3-pointer he made to force OT, which directly led to the Rocket's win.

No, Yao changed the game!! :frown:

Francis was the offense, but he didn't change the game, he just did more of what he usually does and kicked butt. Yao clogged the middle with his presence and forced everyone to shoot from outside, aside from shaq. I think Yao intimidated shaqs teammates more than shaq after those early rejections. Very few drive attempts and very little interior aggressiveness, especially from kobe. Even kobe's last drive at the end - he pulled up very early on the shot. Ive never seen a laker game with kobe attacking the basket less than that.

 

[masterxfob]

as i apologized in the other thread, i'd like to apologize to any in this thread that i intentionally offended

anyone that wants to call shaq a garbage player, please feel free to do so. i just really wish you were in my fantasy basketball league

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: masterxfob the reason i'm voicing my opinion so strongly is because of the many laker haters posting unintelligible comments.

This is the Internet, unfortunately we can't do anything about it. I'm sure you'd have a good laugh if you talked to them in person, I know I would.

Originally posted by: jjsole Btw, how many driving layups did the lakers get with Yoa in the game? 1, by fish? Yao totally changed the game, even when he wasn't involved in the play.

Not true at all. Steve Francis changed the game, plain and simple. He shoot 57% from the floor (75% from 3-point land, 6 3-pointers total), including a career-high 44 points, 11 assists and 2 steals. The Rockets won the game because Steve Francis had a career night. And that doesn't even include the game-tying 3-pointer he made to force OT, which directly led to the Rocket's win.

No, <STRONG>Yao</STRONG> changed the game!! :frown:

Francis was the offense, but he didn't change the game, he just did more of what he usually does and kicked butt. Yao clogged the middle with his presence and forced everyone to shoot from outside, aside from shaq. I think Yao intimidated shaqs teammates more than shaq after those early rejections. Very few drive attempts and very little interior aggressiveness, especially from kobe. Even kobe's last drive at the end - he pulled up very early on the shot. Ive never seen a laker game with kobe attacking the basket less than that.

your so clueless its amazing. as a laker fan who watches them every chance i get, which is often, i can tell you that Yao didnt change shlt. he didnt force anybody to shoot from outside. shaq didnt even show up until OT, it was his passiveness that had the lakers shooting from the outside. were the lakers shooting from the outside when shaq was posterizing yao in OT? and if you know the lakers you'd know that kobe is the only player that can get to the hoop on a consistent basis, which he was, he just wasnt being bailed out by the refs everytime like francis was. kobe was fouled at the end of regulation and the game should have been over. and the flagrant foul in OT is just more proof that the refereeing was very one sided this game. of the calls that made a difference in the outcome of the game, they all went in the rockets favor.

but yao did show that he is a DESCENT player. shaq on the other hand showed everyone why he is shaq - he can play like shlt the whole game and still drop 31pts & 13reb on anybody. shaq is the only player in the league that can get 31/13 and ppl will say he didnt have a great game.

 

[josphII]

Not true at all. Steve Francis changed the game, plain and simple. He shoot 57% from the floor (75% from 3-point land, 6 3-pointers total), including a career-high 44 points, 11 assists and 2 steals. The Rockets won the game because Steve Francis had a career night. And that doesn't even include the game-tying 3-pointer he made to force OT, which directly led to the Rocket's win.

francis had jack to do with why the rockets won. everybody knows the refs gave that game to the rockets.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: masterxfob
as i apologized in the other thread, i'd like to apologize to any in this thread that i intentionally offended

anyone that wants to call shaq a garbage player, please feel free to do so. i just really wish you were in my fantasy basketball league

no worries.....of course shaq's not a garbage player...no one of his size and stature has his speed, agility, and skill.....and 3 championchip rings prove it..... don't worry what others say in this thread....

i knw lakers suck this yr so far...i think mainly due to bad defense......also the other players are not asserting themselves within the offense...they're being way too dependent on shaq and kobe....more than years before....


i'm a huge fan of the lakers, and i do believe it's very unfair for "laker haters" to claim a lot of things that are untrue.......but they'll claim them anyways because they are afterall..ardent laker haters.....i just want a fair, good basketball game and enjoy the team that i like and if they lose.,..they lose...if they win, great....if they lost, u gotta give credit to the opposing team....and forget about those bad calls and stuff...a game is a game that is to be enjoyed....some people go too far eh?...well, whoever ur fav team is...much luck bball fans...

as for me...go lakers

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: josphII

Not true at all. Steve Francis changed the game, plain and simple. He shoot 57% from the floor (75% from 3-point land, 6 3-pointers total), including a career-high 44 points, 11 assists and 2 steals. The Rockets won the game because Steve Francis had a career night. And that doesn't even include the game-tying 3-pointer he made to force OT, which directly led to the Rocket's win.

francis had jack to do with why the rockets won. everybody knows the refs gave that game to the rockets.

aha i know ur a lakers fan...so am i...i'm also frustrated w/ those calls....and balbhalhbabh....but c'mon..the lakers didn't execute well, and the defense fell apart through out the whole game....u can't just blame it on those 2 calls...no one's perfect...lakers have to do better to prevent such a situation later on......and if francis was just too crazy....that was probably 60-80% the reason the lakers lost...the other 20-40% can be attributed to lack of execution and foul calls can be like 10% or less on why the lakers lost :: wahh

sigh...

well, on a side note...lakers best team was when they had horace grant, ron harper, and ac green in the line up.. awesome mix of hardworking vets to maintain the team...now we got samaki and others...sux!!......well, rush looks to be a really great future prospect...hopefully rush and george will become really awesome contributors.....and maddog gets his hustle back....i want to see him dance by this nba yr's end! ::

 

[SlowSS]

Three-peat brings about lot of jealousy and hate.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: josphII

Not true at all. Steve Francis changed the game, plain and simple. He shoot 57% from the floor (75% from 3-point land, 6 3-pointers total), including a career-high 44 points, 11 assists and 2 steals. The Rockets won the game because Steve Francis had a career night. And that doesn't even include the game-tying 3-pointer he made to force OT, which directly led to the Rocket's win.

francis had jack to do with why the rockets won. everybody knows the refs gave that game to the rockets.

aha i know ur a lakers fan...so am i...i'm also frustrated w/ those calls....and balbhalhbabh....but c'mon..the lakers didn't execute well, and the defense fell apart through out the whole game....u can't just blame it on those 2 calls...no one's perfect...lakers have to do better to prevent such a situation later on......and if francis was just too crazy....that was probably 60-80% the reason the lakers lost...the other 20-40% can be attributed to lack of execution and foul calls can be like 10% or less on why the lakers lost :: wahh

sigh...

well, on a side note...lakers best team was when they had horace grant, ron harper, and ac green in the line up.. awesome mix of hardworking vets to maintain the team...now we got samaki and others...sux!!......well, rush looks to be a really great future prospect...hopefully rush and george will become really awesome contributors.....and maddog gets his hustle back....i want to see him dance by this nba yr's end! ::

first of all im ashamed that you call yourself a laker fan because the lakers never had a team that featured both AC Green and Horace Grant. This just shows that you know nothing.

"u cant just blame it on those 2 calls..." sure you can because we all know that if the foul was called on kobe the lakers would have won. we know with almost 100% accuracy that he would have m ade at least one of the foul shots and with 1.5 seconds left it would have taken a miracle for the rockets to win.

its fact that the refs determined who won. aside from the call on kobe at the end of regulation, and even aside from the flagarant foul call, there were other missed calls that had a huge impact on the game. an even bigger missed call was when steve francis double dribbled before dishing to yao for the dunk that sealed the game. the fact is the biggest plays in the game didnt involve francis making a shot, but the refs blowing a call. the fact that the lakers played mediocre basketball for about 40 out of 48 minutes during regulation is irrelevant. the team that gets the 'W' isnt necessarily the team that plays to the best of thier ability but the team that scores the most points. yeah the lakers deserved to lose, but thats all for not becasue if the game was ref'd fairly, the lakers walk away with the win.

it just amazes me that laker haters or yao ming ball lickers can actually watch that game and come away with crap like the refs didnt play a factor or yao is god or whatever. the lakers 4th consecutive title is going to be the sweetest because of their start and crap like this. im gonna love every minute of it.

 

[LikeLinus]

Wow, I'm glad I'm not a Lakers fan. Seeing how their fans act is hilarious.

<This just shows that you know nothing.>

<but yao did show that he is a DESCENT player>

Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? Irony at it's best.

I love AT

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Wow, I'm glad I'm not a Lakers fan. Seeing how their fans act is hilarious.

<This just shows that you know nothing.>

<but yao did show that he is a DESCENT player>

Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? Irony at it's best.

I love AT

Laker fans ?? more like if the clippers start doing better than the lakers.. they'll be clipper fans~

 

[LikeLinus]

hahahaha so true.

 

[dethman]

so much hate over a silly game. you people need to make more constructive use of your time.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: josphII

Not true at all. Steve Francis changed the game, plain and simple. He shoot 57% from the floor (75% from 3-point land, 6 3-pointers total), including a career-high 44 points, 11 assists and 2 steals. The Rockets won the game because Steve Francis had a career night. And that doesn't even include the game-tying 3-pointer he made to force OT, which directly led to the Rocket's win.

francis had jack to do with why the rockets won. everybody knows the refs gave that game to the rockets.

What a cryin whiner!!

The refs made a bad call but didn't give them any points!

Because of the call, they got 2 free throws and the ball. Houston was going to get 2 free throws anyways since it was still a foul, and also you have the moron phil jackson to chase the ref and pick up a T. His fault, not the refs. Back to Houston getting the ball...the lakers D sucked all night and this is their problem. A simple stop would have negated the whole ref-conspiracy thing, except the T from moron phil, and there'd be nothing to whine about.

And as for the refs in ot, the very first basket by oneal was an obvious offensive foul. He pushed off with his arm and elbow (when he started making his move) to get yao out of position and he banked it off the glass. That was the lamest non-call of the night. So if the refs called it evenly in ot, it would have only been a quicker death for the lakers, altho I'm sure they and you would still be whining like a 3 year old that the world is unfair!