CitanUzuki
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No you don't have to format, but it's good to do if you can even with nvidia cards. There are just so many issues that can be due to prior driver installations it ends up easier to do.
Take a look at the following article
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/43383-amd-eats-into-nvidia-intel-graphics-market-share
So if you combine information from your graph and from tgdaily article it looks like ATI actually caused twice as many issues as nVidia on per card basis...
I disagree, no need to crack a nut with a sledge hammer. A fresh install with programs is hours and hours of work....I dont know any technician that would do that?!
According to that table you linked it looks like Nvidia has 50% more market share than Nvidia.
Compete against yourself and you can only tie for first?
blame early adopters? besides Vista being crappy on release I cant think of any early adopter issues I have had. Windows 7 was tested out a lot more than Vista and I know of NO specific video card conflicts with it. I bought Nvidia DX10 8xxx cards back on release and never had any notable issues. I also bought the gtx260 not long after release and no notable issues there either.
really ATI is having quite a few issues and just to say its because its new hardware is no excuse at this point. even disregarding all their regular issues they have had 5 months to get their shit togther on the 5xxx series but still havent done it. hell didnt the newest ATI drivers screw up more than it fixed?
I disagree with that analogy. It's more like fumigating your home after finding a cockroach.
Yes it's excessive, but it can take out the bugs and other things that may have been hiding there and causing problems. It's not like residual video drivers are the only possible problem, and a fresh install can eliminate a lot of possible errors.
I like to do a reformat every now and then just to ensure no virus or trojan somehow got past my antivirus.
I absolutely concur with everything pro-green on this thread. I swear that some people on this site are paid to come here and say AMD is the best. Granted I can see ATI has a lot of pros to it recently (basically price/raw performance), but to me it just doesn't outweigh them mostly sucking dick for my uses.
If I had to buy a card right now, it would be an GTX 285. Even if i could get a 5870 for 50$, it would never touch my PCI-e lanes.
but if your one of the three users out there than need to run D3d6- code uncapped in windows 7, ATI is not a good choice.
I think three users is optimistic. How's that 3000 frames per second in Quake II working out for you? Honestly, what made you think that the unavailability of a non-essential software function in games that are well over a decade old in the very latest 64 bit OS justified your dick-sucking rant back there? An argument that ATI cards are better because the control panel has more red in it would probably have more merit.
you can't be pissed when the F@H performance is less than that of your GTX285 because F@H isn't optimized for AMD hardware; that isn't AMD's fault, it's yours.
In response to the OP, it's well known that the 5000 series kicks into a low power (UVD?) mode when running multiple monitors to increase stability - it's not AMD's fault that you didn't do your homework.
Actually, because the cards downclock to their idle clocks, users with multiple monitors suffer from instability because the 2D clocks are too low. One of the fixes are to completely forgo the idle clocks, but this means the user is losing that excellent idle power consumption figure. AMD could be blamed for being lazy, but nVIDIA too is guilty of this (its a problem thats been around forever and Id wish both of the IHVs would pay more attention to multi-monitor users). However most people would expect such basic feature to work straight out of the box.
I bought a 4850 and had a hell of a time with it out of the box. At first the ATI control panel was unable to determine my monitor supported 1600X1200. I mean seriously?????
After forcing it to 1600X1200 I had all sorts of issues with black screens, game crashes, and driver recoveries. I found uninstalling CCC fixed all of my problems. Stability has been pretty good since CCC went away.
Hey ATI! Imma let you finish in a minute but NV had the best Drivers of All Time!
No, I was smart enough to know NOT to install that operating system. (Vista).
I went from XP to windows 7 64 bit
Amen. I thought two years after release this FUD would have died off, but I guess not. Although I suppose I should be happy, because all the unfounded Vista bashing ended up with a great OS being practically given away .Then you missed a perfectly good operating system. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Vista, and in fact, it's nearly identical to Windows 7. The bad rep it got was simply from shoddy drivers for early adopters (and a lot of this blame is placed on Nvidia, apparently) and unnecessary horror stories that even persist to this day. Windows 7 is simply Vista with a few features thrown in, a few revisions, and a few things removed. You know how almost all Windows 2000 drivers are the same for Windows Xp? It's the same thing for Vista / 7. They're essentially the same operating system.
I'd be very interested in hearing your personal experience; looking forward to it.I happen to have two systems sitting next to me. The desktop in my signature, and the SFF. My HD 5770 arrives today. Seeing as I'll own a card on both sides of the fence, I think it's time to install it, play games for a few days, and come back with a conclusion about where the problem really lies. I have dual monitors, too, so I'll be testing that as well.
I bought a Gainward Radeon 4850 and although the performance was good it got really hot during the summer which made my computer crash so went back to my XFX GeForce 8800 GT.
Every rumor, my God! Not just one rumor, or a handful, but EVERY rumor points to it being disappointing. Wait wait, SEVERELY disappointing, sorry. I was about to wait and see what Fermi actually did, you know, in real life, but in the face of such strident rumerical evidence (is "rumerical" a word? I heard from several sources that it was so it must be), I have bought a $729 5970 instead of waiting.
Wow take literal the noise level I stated and say something about it not having a fan, speaking of indications....
There is no easy way to disable the power saving feature. So "as you understand" and "layman's terms" means little to me.
Again, are my expectations too high - the CCC made for ATi cards should not have a bunch of bugs with them.
Perhaps the 280 did have some issues when released, I dunno I bought 2 285s and if I bought a 280 and it had issues and they weren't easily remedied I would also have made a rant thread about it.