Interesting, I oc'd my 5870 to 900/1250, it ran Crysis great, I was getting about 2-4 more fps with that alone. I will try pushing it further to test for stability.This is my first ATI card and of course it's fast as hell. I've had the great video driver crash from Nvidia many times while playing games. Haven't had the ATI driver crash at all but can't overclock it without it crashing so here's hoping they fix it soon cus even the hotfix doesn't work for me. Stock it works fine but even trying to overclock it a little crashes.
K, allow me to turn off vsync on d3d6- applications on an ATI card under win 7.... Oh that's right, its impossible.Now I wonder how much nVidia paid to you to post such non sense. Paying for an outdated card as the GTX 285 when there's faster cards that are cheaper and offers you the best bang of the buck is simply influences of dark sorcery.
SLi didn't function in the games I was playing most, or didn't have a significant impact on minimum frames (which is really my biggest concern, I do not care if my ceiling is 100 or 1000, I really care about my minimum and my median range.)You switched from 2 GTX285s to a HD5870? Why on earth would you do such a thing? GTX285 SLi leaves a HD5870 in the dust performance wise. There is absolutely nothing that warrants such a downgrade - slower and no PhysX once you went AMD. There's DX11, but the only game that shows that is Dirt2 and it doesn't seem you have that one . At least you had PhysX and some cool eye-candy in a game you owned with the nVidia setup. You should have definitely waited for Fermi imo. Or bought a HD5970 to see any positive performance difference.
As for your driver issues, I'm pretty sure those are leftovers from nVidia. If a driver cleaner won't help, I guess you're stuck with reinstalling your OS. Good thing Win7 installs very fast (25 minutes last time I did it for a friend - from the DVD).
Batman and no AA on ATi? Known issue, you shouldn't be surprised (nVidia blocked it). You should've finished Batman on your old setup, you'd get PhysX and AA out of the box.
PowerPlay issues with ATi with multiple displays? Welcome to my world. I have a fresh Win7 installation, installed Cat 10.1 and the computer "decided" that it no longer likes to have 2 displays attached and won't boot (black screen). I unplugged the HDTV and it runs fine. But wait... it couldn't be all good, sleep is still broken, sometimes when the computer goes up again it greets me with a black or grey stripped screen. One good thing? At least now the card downclocks fine - with two displays attached it would run max clocks 24/7. I felt that one on my electricity bill last year when I still had my HD4870. Then again now I have an "office" card - HD4350, that should technically run fine as there's nothing state-of-the-art that I'm expecting from it. But it seems two screens and a properly working sleep is science-fiction for the ATi driver team - maybe I've been watching too many movies to expect basic things from a graphics card...
No the best part is that I have already said in my thread, perhaps this will make seven times. That I have no Nvidia drivers here.I can't speak for the OP, but perhaps he was planning on running two 5870s eventually. I've run a number of multi-card setups, and only once did I buy both cards at the same time.
I keep hearing this, and I have been hearing this for years... Does anyone have any proof of this whatsoever? Contrary to what your random computer muggle will have you believe, PC's don't contain Gremlins. Any issue that you have can be traced back to some error on the part of a piece of software, hardware, or end user.
If NV is leaving bothersome/malicious software on PCs that break ATI cards, why hasn't ATI proven this and sued the hell out of NV? ATI seem to be perfectly capable of finding the cause and blaming NV for Batman AA issues, but they seem to be incapable of finding that malware that NV puts on your computer that breaks basic functionality of their product...?
You give me hope for this forum. I keep feeling like I am in some kind of twilight world.If QBAH had read before posting he would have known the op said it was a clean install:
I read your post, though looks like I wasn't careful enough. I didn't bother with the other replies as my usual way is OP -> reply. If you noticed, I addressed your black screen issue and stated I have something similar and also about downclocking issues - how would I know about those if I wouldn't read your post? I was tired after work and missed the fresh install part... Happens and I'm sorry. You could have dismissed my part about the leftovers and kindly skip the "noob" part as I have been troubleshooting PC hardware and software issues for many many years now.SLi didn't function in the games I was playing most, or didn't have a significant impact on minimum frames (which is really my biggest concern, I do not care if my ceiling is 100 or 1000, I really care about my minimum and my median range.)
Also welcome to being the fifth person who is unable to read a thread before responding and sounding like some Tom's hardware noob. I have stated about twenty times here that my installation is fresh and has NOTHING to do with Nvidia drivers. There have never been Nvidia drivers on this installation - hell there hasn't been an nvidia card in this motherboard. Also I have mentioned quite a few times that the driver issue is widespread please do a search.
There really should be a rule that people should read the thread before posting replies. If you just want to post whats on your mind you should have to throw out there, "Hey, I haven't really read your thread and have made the following three assumptions that are probably answered in it but I just felt like typing so I typed this.."
-And of course the one sane post here gets skipped over for more fanboi ranting. Fact is people have different experiences with different cards which makes some people swing one way or another.Yawn. Anecdote mean nothing. I could find a similar rant about virtually any product just by scanning Newegg customer reviews.
There are tons of people happy with there 5870s. Just like I could find some people who had problems with there 285s. Just the way PC hardware works.
You seem to perceive good intentions as affronts against yourself. Your original post was loaded with known issues and minor bugs blown out of proportion. It was almost such a perfect storm it seemed like a trolling setup. Most people gave you the benefit of the doubt.You give me hope for this forum. I keep feeling like I am in some kind of twilight world.
so nearly five months isnt enough? so basically about the time we get a refresh the drivers should be better? lolI think 58xx still working out some issues with drivers. 285s are older tech. just wait a bit they'll get it fixed. when nv's dx11 parts comes in march they'll also experience some issues in the beginning that's why I like slightly older tech just not to worry about drivers as much. my 4850 works just fine.
5 months isn't enough if you don't know what problems exist till several months later. It's not like these are all known problems that happen to everyone. Like grey screen problem doesn't happen to me. Also just looking at these forums there seems to be lots of little things that most people haven't tried yet like playing a 1080p movie while playing a game. Also apparently just found out that the new 5xxx cards have problems with 2d acceleration in Win 7 if aero is enabled. I've never noticed anything or used my card for extensive 2d work, but apparently Toms Hardware found the problem out so ATI has to work on that also.so nearly five months isnt enough? so basically about the time we get a refresh the drivers should be better? lol
ding, ding, ding - we have a winner. this is the #1 reason i am never an early adopter of any new hardware, os, drivers, etc. it happens regardless of what company is making it. early adopters are just basically paying to be beta testers for the first 6mos imho.Personally I think it has to do with new card generation, plus new DX, plus new OS= early adopter blues.
blame early adopters? besides Vista being crappy on release I cant think of any early adopter issues I have had. Windows 7 was tested out a lot more than Vista and I know of NO specific video card conflicts with it. I bought Nvidia DX10 8xxx cards back on release and never had any notable issues. I also bought the gtx260 not long after release and no notable issues there either.ding, ding, ding - we have a winner. this is the #1 reason i am never an early adopter of any new hardware, os, drivers, etc. it happens regardless of what company is making it. early adopters are just basically paying to be beta testers for the first 6mos imho.
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