God? What do you think:

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God? What do you think:

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Baasha

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"God", as defined by the desert myths of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is puerile, dense, and simply illogical.

In fact, the entire definition of "religion" as is understood outside of the Dharmic faiths is idiotic.

Experience supersedes belief and faith. Religion, as a set of rules or a refuge that provides solace from the tribulations of life, is vastly different from the deeper questions of existentialism, purpose of life, and the 'why' question, ontologically speaking.

The Dharmic faiths, that is, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism, give precedence to experience and make it amply clear that all "religion", rules, guidelines, and why, even all (book) knowledge (known as vijnAnA in Sanskrit) are impermanent and eventually have to be unlearned to realize the nature of reality and go back to the source of existence, called by various names.

One thing that is so irksome about the Abrahamic faiths is that their followers espouse "freedom", "free will" and other euphemistic terms while expecting everyone to acquiesce to their beliefs and/or way of life regardless of an individual's temperament, maturity, native intelligence, and likes and dislikes. This one size fits all attitude is vehemently opposed when it comes to social conditioning of any sort, however, when it comes to religion, Abrahamics are woefully blind in that regard. Real freedom is choosing how, when, where, if you want to worship at all, and most importantly, what to worship.

And, religion is the fragrance of philosophy; without the former, the latter is left to wither in the winds of the void. To those often claim the "spiritual but not religious" meme are deluded in thinking that a flower without its fragrance is just as sweet; nay, the fragrance is merely an extension of that beauty.

The perennial quest to find the purpose of life, contemplate on the grandeur of existence itself while maintaining good health of the body, mind, and emotions, is the purpose of religion in my opinion. In practice, that is Yoga.
 

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Lifer
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"God", as defined by the desert myths of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is puerile, dense, and simply illogical.

In fact, the entire definition of "religion" as is understood outside of the Dharmic faiths is idiotic.

Experience supersedes belief and faith. Religion, as a set of rules or a refuge that provides solace from the tribulations of life, is vastly different from the deeper questions of existentialism, purpose of life, and the 'why' question, ontologically speaking.

The Dharmic faiths, that is, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism, give precedence to experience and make it amply clear that all "religion", rules, guidelines, and why, even all (book) knowledge (known as vijnAnA in Sanskrit) are impermanent and eventually have to be unlearned to realize the nature of reality and go back to the source of existence, called by various names.

One thing that is so irksome about the Abrahamic faiths is that their followers espouse "freedom", "free will" and other euphemistic terms while expecting everyone to acquiesce to their beliefs and/or way of life regardless of an individual's temperament, maturity, native intelligence, and likes and dislikes. This one size fits all attitude is vehemently opposed when it comes to social conditioning of any sort, however, when it comes to religion, Abrahamics are woefully blind in that regard. Real freedom is choosing how, when, where, if you want to worship at all, and most importantly, what to worship.

And, religion is the fragrance of philosophy; without the former, the latter is left to wither in the winds of the void. To those often claim the "spiritual but not religious" meme are deluded in thinking that a flower without its fragrance is just as sweet; nay, the fragrance is merely an extension of that beauty.

The perennial quest to find the purpose of life, contemplate on the grandeur of existence itself while maintaining good health of the body, mind, and emotions, is the purpose of religion in my opinion. In practice, that is Yoga.

Well that's not the case, ancient greek philosophy was not predicated on religions.
 
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I read what you said, but I don't take orders.

I'm happy to discuss it now, given that the thread I originally created has done so well.

Oh you don't? Well do you read you daft little twat? Because i'm not giving you orders, you are not under my command thank fucking god, but you are an Englishman and you should act like one.

In the short time i have gotten to know what you have said you seem to me to be the English version of an American Emo twat constantly complaining and trying to be smarter than you are while having no sense of the real world what so ever, you've gone from being bisexual to having a girlfriend to being married in a fucking short time.

You don't have to do as i say but it's not an order, it's advice so that you don't make a bigger fool out of yourself.

Are we clear on that?
 
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"God", as defined by the desert myths of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is puerile, dense, and simply illogical.

In fact, the entire definition of "religion" as is understood outside of the Dharmic faiths is idiotic.

Experience supersedes belief and faith. Religion, as a set of rules or a refuge that provides solace from the tribulations of life, is vastly different from the deeper questions of existentialism, purpose of life, and the 'why' question, ontologically speaking.

The Dharmic faiths, that is, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism, give precedence to experience and make it amply clear that all "religion", rules, guidelines, and why, even all (book) knowledge (known as vijnAnA in Sanskrit) are impermanent and eventually have to be unlearned to realize the nature of reality and go back to the source of existence, called by various names.

One thing that is so irksome about the Abrahamic faiths is that their followers espouse "freedom", "free will" and other euphemistic terms while expecting everyone to acquiesce to their beliefs and/or way of life regardless of an individual's temperament, maturity, native intelligence, and likes and dislikes. This one size fits all attitude is vehemently opposed when it comes to social conditioning of any sort, however, when it comes to religion, Abrahamics are woefully blind in that regard. Real freedom is choosing how, when, where, if you want to worship at all, and most importantly, what to worship.

And, religion is the fragrance of philosophy; without the former, the latter is left to wither in the winds of the void. To those often claim the "spiritual but not religious" meme are deluded in thinking that a flower without its fragrance is just as sweet; nay, the fragrance is merely an extension of that beauty.

The perennial quest to find the purpose of life, contemplate on the grandeur of existence itself while maintaining good health of the body, mind, and emotions, is the purpose of religion in my opinion. In practice, that is Yoga.

A Hindu twat threw his daughter off the balcony last tuesday to save his honor, she was about to marry an untouchable.

What do you think of that? Would you let your daughter marry an untouchable?
 

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Lifer
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Oh you don't? Well do you read you daft little twat? Because i'm not giving you orders, you are not under my command thank fucking god, but you are an Englishman and you should act like one.

In the short time i have gotten to know what you have said you seem to me to be the English version of an American Emo twat constantly complaining and trying to be smarter than you are while having no sense of the real world what so ever, you've gone from being bisexual to having a girlfriend to being married in a fucking short time.

You don't have to do as i say but it's not an order, it's advice so that you don't make a bigger fool out of yourself.

Are we clear on that?

I'm not married, I'm getting married. I'm bisexual, I've been with my fiancee for 8 years. I don't really take advice when it is phrased "Shut up". In any event all your shouting and screaming makes you look a twat <--- advice.

I don't really complain about anything in my life. So I don't know where you got that.
 

Baasha

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A Hindu twat threw his daughter off the balcony last tuesday to save his honor, she was about to marry an untouchable.

What do you think of that? Would you let your daughter marry an untouchable?

A jewish twat murders innocent women and children. What do you think of that? :rolleyes:

Regarding your asinine question, if the untouchable is not jewish, christian, or muslim, sure.
 
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Baasha

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Well that's not the case, ancient greek philosophy was not predicated on religions.

well.. that's fine and dandy.. but "ancient greek philosophy" is irrelevant now.. not in practice anywhere.. the abrahamics have destroyed what little was left of europe's greek past.
 

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Lifer
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well.. that's fine and dandy.. but "ancient greek philosophy" is irrelevant now.. not in practice anywhere.. the abrahamics have destroyed what little was left of europe's greek past.

Really?! Really? You genuinely think that the teachings of Plato/ Socrates and Aristotle to name but a few are not in practice anywhere now?! Other than you know... Maths/ Science/ Ethics/ Politics etc I suppose you're right... :rolleyes:
 
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Baasha

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Really?! Really? You genuinely think that the teachings of Plato/ Socrates and Aristotle to name but a few are not in practice anywhere now?! Other than you know... maths/ Science/ Ethics/ Politics etc I suppose you're right... :rolleyes:

Hellenistic philosophy and religion are dead. The remnants of their principles have morphed and changed over the centuries. and what on earth do you mean "Math/Science"? you mean, like the Indians who taught the world how to count? Or perhaps the first formulated linguistics by Panini? Or, maybe the first political treatise of Chanakya, an Indian? Sure, they are in use. However, last time I checked, they are not greek. Nice try.

And, I suppose you, like Aristotle, think the earth is at the center of the universe? Great philosophers indeed! :rolleyes:
 

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Lifer
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Hellenistic philosophy and religion are dead. The remnants of their principles have morphed and changed over the centuries. and what on earth do you mean "Math/Science"? you mean, like the Indians who taught the world how to count? Or perhaps the first formulated linguistics by Panini? Or, maybe the first political treatise of Chanakya, an Indian? Sure, they are in use. However, last time I checked, they are not greek. Nice try.

OK. You're not up to continuing this conversation with me. Read up. Get back to me.
 
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A jewish twat murders innocent women and children. What do you think of that? :rolleyes:

I'd shoot him myself if i could get away with it, if it's in Israel he would be prosecuted and if found guilty he'd be sentenced to a lifetime in prison. Nice way to dodge the question though, what do you think of what the father did?

Regarding your asinine question, if the untouchable is not jewish, christian, or muslim, sure.

What if he is Jewish, Christian or Muslim?

A nice noose around your daughters head or would you just burn her face with acid?
 
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I'm not married, I'm getting married. I'm bisexual, I've been with my fiancee for 8 years. I don't really take advice when it is phrased "Shut up". In any event all your shouting and screaming makes you look a twat <--- advice.

I don't really complain about anything in my life. So I don't know where you got that.

I was giving you advice, not having an argument with you.
 

Pardus

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If God had a name what would it be?
And would you call it to his face?
If you were faced with him
In all his glory
What would you ask if you had just one question?

*And yeah, yeah, God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah

What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home

If God had a face what would it look like?
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that
you would have to believe
in things like heaven and in Jesus and the saints
and all the prophets (*)

Trying to make his way home
Back up to heaven all alone
Nobody calling on the phone
'cept for the Pope maybe in Rome(*)

Just trying to make his way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to heaven all alone
Just trying to make his way home
Nobody calling on the phone
'cept for the Pope maybe in Rome
 

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Lifer
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lol.. you got owned.. no answers.. good cop out boy..

I have a degree in philosophy and during it I focused on Ancient Greek Philosophy, I am telling you as a fact that the ancient greek philosophers like aristotle or plato have had such huge influence on modern society, in every aspect of society. Their philosophy is discussed, debated and put into practice perhaps more now than it ever has been. So like I said, read up, come back.

P.S. I'm not your boy.
 
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If the stars, fall down on me,
And the sun, refused to shine,
Then may the shackles be undone,
AND all the old words cease to rhyme
If the sky, turned into stone,
It would matter not at all,
For there is no heaven, in the sky,
Hell does not wait, for our downfall!

Let the voice of reason shine,
Let the PIOUS vanish for all time,
God's face HIDDEN, ALL unseen,
You can't ask him what it all means,
He was never on your side,
God was never on your side,
Let right or wrong, ALONE decide
God was never on your side.

See ten thousand ministries
See the holy rightous dogs,
They claim to heal, but all they do is steal,
ABUSE YOUR faith, cheat, and ROB,
If God is wise, why is he still,
When these false prophets, call him friend,
Why is he silent, is he blind!?
Are we abandoned in the end?

Let the sword of reason shine,
Let us be free of prayer and shrine
God's face is hidden, turned away,
He never has a word to say,
He was never on your side,
God was never on your side,
Let right or wrong, ALONE decide
God was never on your side!
No, No, No.

God was never on your side - Motorhead
 

Kev

Lifer
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"God", as defined by the desert myths of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is puerile, dense, and simply illogical.

In fact, the entire definition of "religion" as is understood outside of the Dharmic faiths is idiotic.

Experience supersedes belief and faith. Religion, as a set of rules or a refuge that provides solace from the tribulations of life, is vastly different from the deeper questions of existentialism, purpose of life, and the 'why' question, ontologically speaking.

The Dharmic faiths, that is, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism, give precedence to experience and make it amply clear that all "religion", rules, guidelines, and why, even all (book) knowledge (known as vijnAnA in Sanskrit) are impermanent and eventually have to be unlearned to realize the nature of reality and go back to the source of existence, called by various names.

One thing that is so irksome about the Abrahamic faiths is that their followers espouse "freedom", "free will" and other euphemistic terms while expecting everyone to acquiesce to their beliefs and/or way of life regardless of an individual's temperament, maturity, native intelligence, and likes and dislikes. This one size fits all attitude is vehemently opposed when it comes to social conditioning of any sort, however, when it comes to religion, Abrahamics are woefully blind in that regard. Real freedom is choosing how, when, where, if you want to worship at all, and most importantly, what to worship.

And, religion is the fragrance of philosophy; without the former, the latter is left to wither in the winds of the void. To those often claim the "spiritual but not religious" meme are deluded in thinking that a flower without its fragrance is just as sweet; nay, the fragrance is merely an extension of that beauty.

The perennial quest to find the purpose of life, contemplate on the grandeur of existence itself while maintaining good health of the body, mind, and emotions, is the purpose of religion in my opinion. In practice, that is Yoga.

Do you talk like this in real life, or do you only write like a douchebag?
 

Baasha

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I'd shoot him myself if i could get away with it, if it's in Israel he would be prosecuted and if found guilty he'd be sentenced to a lifetime in prison. Nice way to dodge the question though, what do you think of what the father did?

no wonder.. so keen on murder.. must be a tradition eh?

What if he is Jewish, Christian or Muslim?

eww... I would like my daughter, if I had one, to marry a human.
 

Baasha

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I have a degree in philosophy and during it I focused on Ancient Greek Philosophy, I am telling you as a fact that the ancient greek philosophers like aristotle or plato have had such huge influence on modern society, in every aspect of society. Their philosophy is discussed, debated and put into practice perhaps more now than it ever has been. So like I said, read up, come back.

P.S. I'm not your boy.

Modern society does NOT equal western society. Those "philosophers" mean nothing in comparison to real philosophers. Even the British figured that out when they occupied India.

Give examples of their philosophy being put into practice nowadays. Sure, they have had an influence, but we are digressing from the OP in regards to religion anyway. So let's keep it on track and talk about religion; Greek religion is dead.
 
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no wonder.. so keen on murder.. must be a tradition eh?

Oh, i'm sorry, i don't live in a society where we burn our women with acid for wanting a divorce or kill our daughters for falling in love with someone we have not sought out to be their husband, we put the animals that do that in prison for life, but personally, i'd rather kill them, you have kind of defeated the purpose of being alive if you do something like that.

eww... I would like my daughter, if I had one, to marry a human.

So Jews, Christians or Muslims are not human beings in your world?

Would you just burn her face with acid or would you kill her over it if she persisted?
 

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Lifer
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Modern society does NOT equal western society. Those "philosophers" mean nothing in comparison to real philosophers. Even the British figured that out when they occupied India.

Give examples of their philosophy being put into practice nowadays. Sure, they have had an influence, but we are digressing from the OP in regards to religion anyway. So let's keep it on track and talk about religion; Greek religion is dead.

You don't qualify Plato as a "real philosopher" he's been dubbed "the father of logic" or Aristotle "the father of science" these two men have contributed more to philosophy than almost any others.
 

Baasha

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You don't qualify Plato as a "real philosopher" he's been dubbed "the father of logic" or Aristotle "the father of science" these two men have contributed more to philosophy than almost any others.

and the same people "dub" jesus as the "savior" and don't question the veracity of some old bearded bastard who talked to a burning bush. right, their words are worth so much..

And, never said they are not philosophers. They are, in COMPARISON, nothing to those of Eastern philosophers.

You think by "philosophy" that encompasses all philosophy? How on earth did get ANY degree?