GM Boycott anyone?

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Were profitable. They aren't selling well at all anymore. Toyota can't keep the Prius on the lot.

yeah, you have that problem when you're selling at a loss.

anyway, GM has 6 hybrid models either here or on the way.

and they're still GM's most profitable vehicles

Toyota's been making profits on the Prius for 2 years, man, where have you been?

GM's so-called "hybrid" truck is nothing of the sort. It gets a whopping ONE mile per gallon more than it's "non-hybrid" brother. So far, GM's hybrid effort is a tasteless joke, at best.

Jason

Do you even know what the hell you're talking about, please do some research before pulling stuff out of @ss.

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[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Were profitable. They aren't selling well at all anymore. Toyota can't keep the Prius on the lot.

yeah, you have that problem when you're selling at a loss.

anyway, GM has 6 hybrid models either here or on the way.

and they're still GM's most profitable vehicles

Toyota's been making profits on the Prius for 2 years, man, where have you been?

GM's so-called "hybrid" truck is nothing of the sort. It gets a whopping ONE mile per gallon more than it's "non-hybrid" brother. So far, GM's hybrid effort is a tasteless joke, at best.

Jason

that whopping 1 mile per gallon saves more fuel than going from 30 to 40 miles per gallon.

for 12000 miles the regular silverado takes 1200 gallon of gas. a car at 30 uses 400. a car at 40 uses 300. a truck at 11 uses 1090. that's 10 more gallons saved by the 'tasteless joke' truck hybrid than the car (or, because it seems you can't do math, 10% better).

 

[whalen]

I don't think that a vehicle that is assembled in a US plant necessarily should be called "Made in America". GM/Ford/Chrysler in total give more American's jobs than the Japanese manufacturers when you consider engineering, etc.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: tennisflip

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
GM deserves to be boycotted...because they build sh!tty, ugly cars!

Go Toyota!!!

LOL. Toyota should come out with a commericial with the "America, F&$K yeah" song but with America changed to Toyota.

The fanbois in this forum would be humming it for the next 5 years.

Newsflash: The Toyota Camry is an ugly, boring, overpriced vehicle.

 

[tennisflip]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: tennisflip

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
GM deserves to be boycotted...because they build sh!tty, ugly cars!

Go Toyota!!!

LOL. Toyota should come out with a commericial with the "America, F&$K yeah" song but with America changed to Toyota.

The fanbois in this forum would be humming it for the next 5 years.

Newsflash: The Toyota Camry is an ugly, boring, overpriced vehicle.

True... but the 2007 Camry might reverse that. Those spy shots in that thread posted here awhile back didn't look half bad.

 

[Vegito]

Originally posted by: desy
Corolla built in Canada, as most Hondas too from the map
PROFITS don't stay in America when you buy foreign

profit still won stay in america when you buy a gm.. you're still using foreign oil to power it

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: desy
Corolla built in Canada, as most Hondas too from the map
PROFITS don't stay in America when you buy foreign

Profits that stay in America are what the big, fat, stupid execs of American companies get. I could give two sh!ts about them.

Wages are what workers get and they're paid to workers employed by the Japanese and Americans alike. I'm far more concerned about these guys since they're my friends and neighbors.

 

[MikeMike]

The only car GM manufactures for N. America in Mexico is the Suburban.

all other cars manufactured at their Mexico plant are for S. America. and Mexico.

Internet lies ++

let the internet spread more falsities.

and you wonder why ppl dont like sources from the internet.

 

[LongCoolMother]

i dont buy GM anyway. quite frankly, i dont care whether i buy domestic or imported products. being made in the US has no real effect on me. im all for free trade baby.

 

[hypn0tik]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

This is all from memory and might be totally off.
Honda has a factory in Ohio and maybe another elsewhere.
Hundyai has a factory in Alabama.
Toyota has a factory in Kentucky.
Mitsubishi has a factory in Illinois.
Nissan has a factory in Tennesee.
BMW has a factory in South Carolina.
Subaru has a factory in Indiana.

Not all Japanese cars sold here are made here, but many are.

Mercedes also has a plant in Alabama.

For us Canadians, a Toyota plant is set to open up somewhere in Ontario. I think it might be Woodstock, but don't quote me on that.

 

[imthebadguy]

they have to do it, they have no choice, you idiots, boycotting is not the solution

 

[Fritzo]

So...you want to boycott GM so they'll lose more money and lay off more people?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

I think they are saying that many Hondas are manufactured in the USA, compared to many GM products which are made in Canada and Mexico.

I don't know of any cars that are really "american". Most have parts from all over the world.

Most people here seem to ignore the fact that Toyota also has plants in Mexico and Canada too. Why don't they get grilled for this like GM does?

Because Toyota is one of the most profitable companies in the world.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

uhh, no you are NOT.

who do you think does all the engineering? there are only about 1000 people who actually assemble the car. how many thousands of engineers do you think those cars employ?

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

I think they are saying that many Hondas are manufactured in the USA, compared to many GM products which are made in Canada and Mexico.

I don't know of any cars that are really "american". Most have parts from all over the world.

Most people here seem to ignore the fact that Toyota also has plants in Mexico and Canada too. Why don't they get grilled for this like GM does?

because toyota rules and canada rules

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: Vegito

Originally posted by: desy
Corolla built in Canada, as most Hondas too from the map
PROFITS don't stay in America when you buy foreign

profit still won stay in america when you buy a gm.. you're still using foreign oil to power it

that is the most retarded thing i have ever heard.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: hypn0tik

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

This is all from memory and might be totally off.
Honda has a factory in Ohio and maybe another elsewhere.
Hundyai has a factory in Alabama.
Toyota has a factory in Kentucky.
Mitsubishi has a factory in Illinois.
Nissan has a factory in Tennesee.
BMW has a factory in South Carolina.
Subaru has a factory in Indiana.

Not all Japanese cars sold here are made here, but many are.

Mercedes also has a plant in Alabama.

For us Canadians, a Toyota plant is set to open up somewhere in Ontario. I think it might be Woodstock, but don't quote me on that.

Cambridge produces the Corolla, and Woodstock is opening in 2008.

 

[Squisher]

It won't give me much joy, but it certainly will be expected when all IT work is done by foreign companies. Don't worry we can all get jobs at McDonald's.


As for foreign manufacturers making cars here, very little of the content in those cars are made here and all the profits of those foreign cars goes immediately offshore.

Company....Employees........Major plants
GM ...........194,000.............. 82
Ford .........128,000 ..............35
DCX ...........76,600 ..............24
Toyota .......31,000............... 8
Honda ........15,900 ...............8
Nissan ........25,000............... 8

 

[frankierx]

what gm car do you like?

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: Squisher
It won't give me much joy, but it certainly will be expected when all IT work is done by foreign companies. Don't worry we can all get jobs at McDonald's.


As for foreign manufacturers making cars here, very little of the content in those cars are made here and all the profits of those foreign cars goes immediately offshore.

Company....Employees........Major plants
GM ...........194,000.............. 82
Ford .........128,000 ..............35
DCX ...........76,600 ..............24
Toyota .......31,000............... 8
Honda ........15,900 ...............8
Nissan ........25,000............... 8

thank you, those were the exact numbers i was looking for.

what now fanboys?

if you buy a japanese car, you purchased a JAPANESE car, not american.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: Squisher
It won't give me much joy, but it certainly will be expected when all IT work is done by foreign companies. Don't worry we can all get jobs at McDonald's.


As for foreign manufacturers making cars here, very little of the content in those cars are made here and all the profits of those foreign cars goes immediately offshore.

Company....Employees........Major plants
GM ...........194,000.............. 82
Ford .........128,000 ..............35
DCX ...........76,600 ..............24
Toyota .......31,000............... 8
Honda ........15,900 ...............8
Nissan ........25,000............... 8

thank you, those were the exact numbers i was looking for.

what now fanboys?

if you buy a japanese car, you purchased a JAPANESE car, not american.

GOOD.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: Squisher
It won't give me much joy, but it certainly will be expected when all IT work is done by foreign companies. Don't worry we can all get jobs at McDonald's.


As for foreign manufacturers making cars here, very little of the content in those cars are made here and all the profits of those foreign cars goes immediately offshore.

Company....Employees........Major plants
GM ...........194,000.............. 82
Ford .........128,000 ..............35
DCX ...........76,600 ..............24
Toyota .......31,000............... 8
Honda ........15,900 ...............8
Nissan ........25,000............... 8

thank you, those were the exact numbers i was looking for.

what now fanboys?

if you buy a japanese car, you purchased a JAPANESE car, not american.

GOOD.

so why don't you go to japan then if you like it there so much? i sure as hell don't want you living in america.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
A UAW boycott would be more like it. It's not GMs fault that they have to pay their workers so much money that they can't stay in business. Any company that is forced top ay wages to their employees that are far higher than they should be getting will have trouble staying in business. Good going UAW. Way to force more jobs overseas.

While I agree about your statements about the UAW in general, in this case I think GM is simply cutting down costs. I don't think they're closing American factories in order to make the cars elsewhere.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerdGM Boycott anyone?

Hell Yeah!

Oh wait, a boycott makes no sense you freaking idiot.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
A UAW boycott would be more like it. It's not GMs fault that they have to pay their workers so much money that they can't stay in business. Any company that is forced top ay wages to their employees that are far higher than they should be getting will have trouble staying in business. Good going UAW. Way to force more jobs overseas.

While I agree about your statements about the UAW in general, in this case I think GM is simply cutting down costs. I don't think they're closing American factories in order to make the cars elsewhere.

they are not closing down plants to make their cars elsewhere. they are closing down plants because no one is buying the cars. their market share has dropped from 30% to around 20% or less IIRC (i'm probably off by a few %). That is a 30% reduction in sales, and they have no where near closed 30% of their plants.