Glue traps - your thoughts?

[NoShangriLa]

Originally posted by: HenryC

I prefer the cats do my dirty work. They prefer warm meat. Win/win.

As I said, what a shitty thing to do. If they caught the mouse themselves, then fair enough, that is life and unavoidable. But you practically threw it to them, while its leg is broken in a trap, unable to escape (whereas in wild, the opportunity is there to run - or die). There was no need to do that.

oh and who are you to question me, mouse-torturer? You've already committed the crime, and you lecture me?

Of course I do. It wasn't my intention to cause it more pain and misery, unlike your very self. And hey, at least I had the decency to put it out of its misery. Can't say the same for you.

They are just rodents.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: HenryC

I prefer the cats do my dirty work. They prefer warm meat. Win/win.

As I said, what a shitty thing to do. If they caught the mouse themselves, then fair enough, that is life and unavoidable. But you practically threw it to them, while its leg is broken in a trap, unable to escape (whereas in wild, the opportunity is there to run - or die). There was no need to do that.

oh and who are you to question me, mouse-torturer? You've already committed the crime, and you lecture me?

Of course I do. It wasn't my intention to cause it more pain and misery, unlike your very self. And hey, at least I had the decency to put it out of its misery. Can't say the same for you.

i'm the main predator in my territory, my house, and I like acting like it

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
They are just rodents.

Big fucking deal. They still have the capacity to feel pain, and that means something.

I do not understand why you need to be overly cruel to it when you can just kill it off in a quick manner. "Just rodents" really... that doesn't mean anything. This reasoning can be upscaled to justify any sort of shit. A rodent today, a dog tomorrow. Scary stuff. It's completely stupid reasoning that only a sociopath would use.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
They are just rodents.

Big fucking deal. They still have the capacity to feel pain, and that means something.

I do not understand why you need to be overly cruel to it when you can just kill it off in a quick manner. "Just rodents" really... that doesn't mean anything. This reasoning can be unscaled to justify any sort of shit. A rodent today, a dog tomorrow. Scary stuff. It's completely stupid reasoning that only a sociopath would use.

how do you want to kill it off in a quick manner? Smash it with a hammer?

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
i'm the main predator in my territory, my house, and I like acting like it

No, you're a pseudo Alpha male.

Predators kill animals for food. They don't intentionally go out of their way to stick their prey in super glue, and make them starve to death.

Try to act human instead, it's a refreshing change.

how do you want to kill it off in a quick manner? Smash it with a hammer?

As quick and as painless as possible. A hammer would do.

If you're going to trap an animal, have the decency (and responsibility) to kill it humanely.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: Xylitol
i'm the main predator in my territory, my house, and I like acting like it

No, you're a pseudo Alpha male.

Predators kill animals for food. They don't intentionally go out of their way to stick their prey in super glue, and make them starve to death.

Try to act human instead, it's a refreshing change.

well when the mouse and his family is keeping me up at night so I can't be productive the next day, I'm going to do something about them.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

well when the mouse and his family is keeping me up at night so I can't be productive the next day, I'm going to do something about them.

Of course you can, I didn't say you shouldn't.

But hell... don't torture it.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: Xylitol

well when the mouse and his family is keeping me up at night so I can't be productive the next day, I'm going to do something about them.

Of course you can, I didn't say you shouldn't.

But hell... don't torture it.

I'm not going to get my hands dirty by throwing a hammer on a mouse

regardless - i think glue traps are stupid and that snap traps are the way to go

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
I'm not going to get my hands dirty by throwing a hammer on a mouse

Wow, honestly... what a shit excuse. Grow a pair.

Use some common sense - cover it with a plastic bag. Then smash it. You don't have to throw it, just hit it.

It's a lot better than just letting it suffer, and possibly escaping the trap. Think man!

 

[NoShangriLa]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: Xylitol
i'm the main predator in my territory, my house, and I like acting like it

No, you're a pseudo Alpha male.

Predators kill animals for food. They don't intentionally go out of their way to stick their prey in super glue, and make them starve to death.

Try to act human instead, it's a refreshing change.

how do you want to kill it off in a quick manner? Smash it with a hammer?

As quick and as painless as possible. A hammer would do.

If you're going to trap an animal, have the decency (and responsibility) to kill it humanely.

Have you seen what cats do to mice before they eat them?

 

[GasX]

These are the best mouse traps

Squeeze to set, add peanut butter, kill mouse, squeeze to release mouse (into garbage) and reset.

 

[OutHouse]

i have no issue with glue traps. i have a few in my house now. if we catch one ill put it in a plastic bag and take it outside and squash it with a fire log. done end of story and one less mouse.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Chryso
I like the poison.

not me. they die and totally stink up the house. the last time i used a poison the bastard died in the kitchen and it took 3 weeks for us to find it. no more poison for me.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Have you seen what cats do to mice before they eat them?

Yes. This is precisely why I have issues with people who'd just casually throw a live mouse to a cat like that.

However, a cat is acting merely upon its instincts - does it know that it's giving the mouse more pain than necessary? No. Does it think it out, knowing the consequences? No. Is it acting out of intentional malice? No.

Is the human?

Yes to all three. Which is why it's ludicrous to compare a cat's actions to that of a human's. A cat doesn't know any better, but we do. And I don't think it's wise to use the actions of a cat as a guide for justifying certain acts of behaviour.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Have you seen what cats do to mice before they eat them?

Yes. This is precisely why I have issues with people who'd just casually throw a live mouse to a cat like that.

However, a cat is acting merely upon its instincts - does it know that it's giving the mouse more pain than necessary? No. Does it think it out, knowing the consequences? No. Is it acting out of intentional malice? No.

Is the human?

Yes to all three. Which is why it's ludicrous to compare a cat's actions to that of a human's. A cat doesn't know any better, but we do. And I don't think it's wise to use the actions of a cat as a guide for justifying certain acts of behavior.

I have issues with people like you. The worst part about bleeding heart teenagers is that they grow up and turn into bleeding heart college students which are ten times as annoying because then they feel empowered. Don't push so hard to push your values an opinions onto others. It's a damn mouse.

Besides, you asked in your OP what our opinion is. You can't just shoot down every one that goes against what you think. That isn't how an open discussion works.

For what it's worth, I've had problems with mice in 2 places that I lived; a college dormitory and a building in Afghanistan. In the dorm I never bothered the mice because they never bothered me. In Afghanistan glue traps were used, and the trapped mice were burned in a garbage burn pit to avoid attracting larger desert rodents.

 

[Ns1]

Yeah I don't give a fuck.

 

[Oceandevi]

What the hell did you expect would happen? You saw the glue trap and placed it correct? Were you on drugs or alcohol when you did this? Are you simply slow minded?

You should work on your home. If they have a way in, fix it.

 

[DayLaPaul]

If I had my choice, I'd pick the cruelest non-lethal contraption on the market. I'd want my trap to torture rats within an inch of their lives, then set them free to spread the message to all their little homies not to come back to my house.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
I have issues with people like you. The worst part about bleeding heart teenagers is that they grow up and turn into bleeding heart college students which are ten times as annoying because then they feel empowered. Don't push so hard to push your values an opinions onto others. It's a damn mouse.

Am I wrong in condemning unnecessary cruelty? People shouldn't be so fucking cruel about it, that's the bottom line.

You said yourself that there's no need to be humane? Tell me, why exactly? Is there a reason to be inhumane? Why do you see the need to make the animal suffer on a glue trap, in the garbage bin, when you can just kill it and put it out of its misery?

Just leaving it suffering like that is something that a miserable, disgusting individual would do. Someone lacking a conscience. Don't give me your "it's a mouse" claptrap either, it can still feel pain. That's a good enough reason.

Besides, you asked in your OP what our opinion is.

Yes, about glue traps in particular. Not to torture something to death, however.

You can't just shoot down every one that goes against what you think. That isn't how an open discussion works.

Of course I can.

An open discussion also entails this.

You'll also find I'm not shooting down everyone here who said uses glue traps - only those who do such overly cruel shit, like for example, throwing them into the garbage while they're still alive. Fuck 'em. People who do something like that deserve criticism - the asshats that they are.

In Afghanistan glue traps were used, and the trapped mice were burned in a garbage burn pit to avoid attracting larger desert rodents.

Well, I hope they were dead before being burned.

 

[mb]

Topic Title: Glue traps - your thoughts?

They've worked well for me & that's all I care about.

 

[KevinCU]

Originally posted by: jagec
psst...olds doesn't really set mice on fire.

I guess that just makes one of us then...

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HenryC

You'll also find I'm not shooting down everyone here who said uses glue traps - only those who do such overly cruel shit, like for example, throwing them into the garbage while they're still alive. Fuck 'em. People who do something like that deserve criticism - the asshats that they are.

In that case, you're an ignorant twat Tossing the mice in the garbage IS ok by the majority of society. Also, those are the directions on the box, and it's certainly not illegal.

In Afghanistan glue traps were used, and the trapped mice were burned in a garbage burn pit to avoid attracting larger desert rodents.

Well, I hope they were dead before being burned.

Not to my knowledge.


Go use your concerns for the world and focus it on human beings, saving mice from "torture" is a waste of time/energy.

 

[HenryC]

Originally posted by: TallBill
In that case, you're an ignorant twat Tossing the mice in the garbage IS ok by the majority of society. Also, those are the directions on the box, and it's certainly not illegal.

Bullshit. If you're telling the truth, then society has certainly gone downhill. I would think most people would have better sense than that (and if this thread is any indication, it certainly appears that way). No matter how much you try and rationalise it, it's still wrong to starve a mammal to death when you can just kill it quickly. You're just intentionally making it suffer for no reason at all.

Glue traps are also banned in a lot of countries, and many stores do not stock them anymore. As for the legality, I'm sure it's the law to humanely dispatch live animals on traps.

And if you're using the box instructions as a guide of right and wrong, then you're just fucked up. Period.

Go use your concerns for the world and focus it on human beings, saving mice from "torture" is a waste of time/energy.

Can't do both? Since when are they mutually exclusive? But nice way to veer away from the topic.

Showing compassion, even for a mere mouse, isn't as wasteful as you think it is. Empathy is a good thing. Funny how you completely ignored the first part of my post... the actual point being made here.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: HenryC

Can't do both? Since when are they mutually exclusive? But nice way to veer away from the topic.

Showing compassion, even for a mere mouse, isn't as wasteful as you think it is. Empathy is a good thing. Funny how you completely ignored the first part of my post... the actual point being made here.

This thread isn't an indication at all. Someone like you is more likely to post their opinion in a thread like this because your opinion is stronger. Truth is that most people probably don't give a shit about a mouse. You calling everyone morally wrong is what's fucked up.

How did I veer away from the topic when it was merely part of my response? Compassion for a mouse is silly. I was merely stating that if you are so concerned about things, get off your ass and do something about it. Bitching on the internet doesn't solve things.

And in my experience, pretty much anything that PETA backs is fucking whacko.

 

[TallBill]

And if you're using the box instructions as a guide of right and wrong, then you're just fucked up. Period.

Ok.... I bet eating red meat is bad for me too?